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Post by Junior on Jul 20, 2017 9:29:04 GMT
People need to give Martin a bit of slack. He's coming back from a very serious injury and will take time to get up to speed.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jul 20, 2017 9:54:24 GMT
I'm slightly amused by all the negativity towards Thomas. When we didn't have a 'fox in the box' style striker people moaned that none of or strikers are ever in the right place at the right time. Now we have that in Thomas, who has the knack of popping up in the box where the ball usually is, people then moan he hasn't run 10 miles the previous 10 minutes before that. If there was a player who could run all game, tackle all game and net on a regular basis then they certainly wouldn't be in our league. Look at billy sharpe last season hardly the most mobile striker I've ever seen but he knew where to be and had composure to finish. People need to look at the player Thomas is and not what they want him to be. I'm not a big fan of Thomas (workrate, attitude, closing down), but he can score goals when the opportunity is made for him - he isn't going to score loads from more than a few yards, but what he does he does OK if that's enough for you. The major problem (IMO) is when you pair him with Hemmings, who does just about the same job as far as goal scoring is concerned. Then you've got two players waiting for the ball to be fed to them and doing little else. Not only does that make us fairly one-dimensional in attack, it also makes it fairly easy to defend against. Let's see what Obika can do (although I am a little concerned that he hasn't managed to get on the pitch for even a few minutes yet) - perhaps there is a combination of two from the three that might work.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Jul 20, 2017 9:58:31 GMT
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Post by yellowbow on Jul 20, 2017 10:05:08 GMT
Why would Leicester need to send scouts to watch Johnson? Surely their assistant manager has seen enough of him..
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Post by arthurturner on Jul 20, 2017 10:20:50 GMT
Why would Leicester need to send scouts to watch Johnson? Surely their assistant manager has seen enough of him.. Pep said last night on Radox that Marvin is going nowhere. Johnson has 2 years on his contract with an option of a further year.DE says we don't need to sell anyone and that must be even more so now that Lundstrum has all but gone and we had no choice but to sell him as he refused 4 contract extension offers. As long as we don't persist with playing him at left back and he stays fit,IMHO Marvin will be the difference between a good season and a mediocre one.
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Post by foley on Jul 20, 2017 10:27:22 GMT
We do understand the concept of pre-season friendlies against higher level opposition don`t we? Its a test and a learning opportunity. 2,200 is abysmal......they should let ST holders in for free. I agree it's a test and a learning curve but last nights game made us look less than average. It maybe brutal buts it's honest Yes but the point is that we are playing against a team that are far better. So you would kind of expect us to look less than average against a much better team? We will not be playing anybody anywhere near as good in League 1 next season. For Pep it is a learning curve. So maybe martin should be replaced by Raglan/ Williamson and Johnson by a left back but that is what friendlies are about?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 20, 2017 10:47:29 GMT
Exactly, it was Darryl that said Johno is the best left back in the league. An idea started by mapp. Pep can only go on what he's told to start with, it could very well change once he's seen him a few times that he thinks he's better further forward as his defensive side just isn't good enough. Same with partnerships at the back, he won't know what works best till he's seen a few different combos.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 20, 2017 10:48:22 GMT
I agree it's a test and a learning curve but last nights game made us look less than average. It maybe brutal buts it's honest Yes but the point is that we are playing against a team that are far better. So you would kind of expect us to look less than average against a much better team? We will not be playing anybody anywhere near as good in League 1 next season. For Pep it is a learning curve. So maybe martin should be replaced by Raglan/ Williamson and Johnson by a left back but that is what friendlies are about? I know they're better than us considering there attendances aren't spectacular and they were a dam site better than the Nrentford we stuffed a couple of seasons ago. But certainly the defence needs sorting they made us look to easy at the back in a few occasions last night, we need johnson on the wing rather than LB midfield should be ok but I am concerned about our strikers we definitely need a decent striker and that will cost money, that will test DE
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Post by RCYellowRC on Jul 20, 2017 11:47:51 GMT
Couple of things picked up from these highlights. Johnsons positioning is horiffic at LB. he's glided centrally and left there RM 40 yards to run into for there second goal. We need a natural LB to play that role. So Johnson can play further forward We need to play too the whistle as there will be controversial moments this season that requires that. Rob Hall is going to be key for us this season get him tied down with Maguires wages he only has a year left and Wilder will come sniffing again like January.
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Post by dabigfella on Jul 20, 2017 11:57:57 GMT
The ball was definitely over the line for the fourth goal that's for sure.
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Post by shosho on Jul 20, 2017 12:05:31 GMT
The movement from hemmings for his goal 👍
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 20, 2017 12:07:17 GMT
The ball was definitely over the line for the fourth goal that's for sure. "Whole of the ball, whole of the line" - I feel like this one was just about still on the pitch.
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 20, 2017 12:26:21 GMT
Couple of things picked up from these highlights. Johnsons positioning is horiffic at LB. he's glided centrally and left there RM 40 yards to run into for there second goal. We need a natural LB to play that role. So Johnson can play further forward We need to play too the whistle as there will be controversial moments this season that requires that. Rob Hall is going to be key for us this season get him tied down with Maguires wages he only has a year left and Wilder will come sniffing again like January. Hold up, how come their iFollow is showing highlights of a match at recorded at our ground, but we are incapable of providing our own?
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Post by foley on Jul 20, 2017 12:27:08 GMT
Yes but the point is that we are playing against a team that are far better. So you would kind of expect us to look less than average against a much better team? I know they're better than us considering there attendances aren't spectacular and they were a dam site better than the Nrentford we stuffed a couple of seasons ago. But certainly the defence needs sorting they made us look to easy at the back in a few occasions last night, we need johnson on the wing rather than LB midfield should be ok but I am concerned about our strikers we definitely need a decent striker and that will cost money, that will test DE Their attendances are irrelevant. To put it into perspective Brentford scored 75 goals finishing 10th in the Championship last season. So they are a decent Championship side. They tend to score a lot of goals against a lot of the Championship defences. That isn't t say that we don't have to sort out the defence. The frustrating thing is that Obika hasn't started yet and didn't play last night. He may help a lot in the striking department. I do think that we now need a couple of high quality players quickly.
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Post by Eaststandboy on Jul 20, 2017 12:28:29 GMT
Are we not producing any friendly highlights?
Oxford City did them Hull did them Brentford did them
I thought they would be on ifollow at least.
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 20, 2017 12:48:42 GMT
Pre match video from Brentford - ignore the technical hitch at the start.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 20, 2017 14:04:43 GMT
I know they're better than us considering there attendances aren't spectacular and they were a dam site better than the Nrentford we stuffed a couple of seasons ago. But certainly the defence needs sorting they made us look to easy at the back in a few occasions last night, we need johnson on the wing rather than LB midfield should be ok but I am concerned about our strikers we definitely need a decent striker and that will cost money, that will test DE Their attendances are irrelevant. To put it into perspective Brentford scored 75 goals finishing 10th in the Championship last season. So they are a decent Championship side. They tend to score a lot of goals against a lot of the Championship defences. That isn't t say that we don't have to sort out the defence. The frustrating thing is that Obika hasn't started yet and didn't play last night. He may help a lot in the striking department. I do think that we now need a couple of high quality players quickly. We certainly do need a couple of high quality players and let's hope one of them is an established 15+ a season striker because I think I heard someone say Obika is injured and considering what the scum lot were saying about him we may Calpaldi mk2
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 20, 2017 14:09:44 GMT
Are we not producing any friendly highlights? Oxford City did them Hull did them Brentford did them I thought they would be on ifollow at least. I tweeted OUFC and Chris Williams about this upon watching the Brentford highlights. No reply as of yet. Other than the odd interview and some nice coverage from Portugal (most of which is thanks to Rob Hall) there really hasn't been much of an effort put into iFollow so far this term. No highlights, no streams, no radio (fans having to tune in to Rad Ox), no "Match live blog" that was supposed to be trialled during last night's match. Has someone left Chris Williams in Portugal without any suncream? Someone slap his bald head and tell him to get his game on, or find someone else who can...
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Post by lerekdilley on Jul 20, 2017 14:30:06 GMT
The ball was definitely over the line for the fourth goal that's for sure. "Whole of the ball, whole of the line" - I feel like this one was just about still on the pitch.
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Post by Eaststandboy on Jul 20, 2017 14:38:49 GMT
Are we not producing any friendly highlights? Oxford City did them Hull did them Brentford did them I thought they would be on ifollow at least. I tweeted OUFC and Chris Williams about this upon watching the Brentford highlights. No reply as of yet. Other than the odd interview and some nice coverage from Portugal (most of which is thanks to Rob Hall) there really hasn't been much of an effort put into iFollow so far this term. No highlights, no streams, no radio (fans having to tune in to Rad Ox), no "Match live blog" that was supposed to be trialled during last night's match. Has someone left Chris Williams in Portugal without any suncream? Someone slap his bald head and tell him to get his game on, or find someone else who can... The live blog was in a stupid location and wasnt linked too from the home page. It was in Fixtures, then had a header with a link to the blog. I was able to see the line ups there.
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 20, 2017 14:44:49 GMT
I tweeted OUFC and Chris Williams about this upon watching the Brentford highlights. No reply as of yet. Other than the odd interview and some nice coverage from Portugal (most of which is thanks to Rob Hall) there really hasn't been much of an effort put into iFollow so far this term. No highlights, no streams, no radio (fans having to tune in to Rad Ox), no "Match live blog" that was supposed to be trialled during last night's match. Has someone left Chris Williams in Portugal without any suncream? Someone slap his bald head and tell him to get his game on, or find someone else who can... The live blog was in a stupid location and wasnt linked too from the home page. It was in Fixtures, then had a header with a link to the blog. I was able to see the line ups there. Well hurray for them for doing such a poor job of telling us where to go. Did it do much else other than give the line ups?
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 20, 2017 14:51:42 GMT
"Whole of the ball, whole of the line" - I feel like this one was just about still on the pitch. Dodgy camera angle and image quality. Looked to me like he hit it while the ball was on the line, where as this screen-shot is from a split second later, once he's got a toe to it and lifted it from the floor for the cross. Either way it's a pre-season friendly against Brentford, and not anything I can be bothered to go into in any more depth.
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Post by ciaranjonlucas on Jul 20, 2017 15:13:36 GMT
Dodgy camera angle and image quality. Looked to me like he hit it while the ball was on the line, where as this screen-shot is from a split second later, once he's got a toe to it and lifted it from the floor for the cross. Either way it's a pre-season friendly against Brentford, and not anything I can be bothered to go into in any more depth. Not sure why Nelson let it run in the first place...
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Post by diagocostapacket on Jul 20, 2017 15:40:28 GMT
Quite an entertaining game as friendlies go though we tired visibly across the pitch in the last quarter.. Hardly surprising considering its probably our first really competitive friendly on a decent pitch. I agree with what one or two have said..exposed at times down the left flank. I thought Hall looked good and Ribeiro looks a good footballer. I would like to think the team that started is the basis of this seasons title winning side !! Some nice passages of play interspersed with momentary lapses in concentration.. One or two of the Brentford lads were well put together and a bit of a handful in the first 30 minutes or so. Shame there weren't a few more there. Sorry to put a damper on your post but on that performance that is not this seasons title winning side, We need a much better striker than what we have seen tonight or at least a striker that could complement our strikers. As Brentford strikers proved with their runs tonight they left our defence at sixes and sevens. There still requires a lot of work to make our team be in contention for at least a play off place. I don't know... we wont play many L1 teams that good.. I thought the defence was reasonably solid in the main down the right and the centre.. lets face it none of them are really going to be putting their bodies on the line and throwing themselves into the tackle at this stage pre-season. Plus some of the them were moving a bit gingerly at times especially in the final 1/3d of the game .. I suspect that arch nemesis of pre-season games... BLISTERS...don't laugh they can be a serious problem. Of course there's work to be done, it starts game 1 and carries on until game 46. ! But I'm optimistic we have the basis of a good side at this moment.
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Post by littlemore on Jul 20, 2017 15:57:25 GMT
Brentford is a club we should aim to replicate. Promoted back into the Championship in 2014 and have now established themselves as a Championship club. What I like about Brentford is they invest in young players either players not getting enough game time in Premier league or buying talent from lower leagues, as well as having a number of experienced players in their team. They don't overspend either but invest enough capital which has proven in recent years to make them good profit. This would be the stage where Eales in my opinion would not be able to financially facilitate and would need to consider if someone else should take the club on. Obviously currently being a league 1 club means Eales is happy enough to fund the club but if you look at Brentford they average 10k in the Championship which is what Oxford would get when we get there so in my opinion it can be realistic for Oxford under the correct ownership to establish themselves as a Championship club say in the next 4 to 5 years.
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 20, 2017 16:27:00 GMT
Brentford is a club we should aim to replicate. Promoted back into the Championship in 2014 and have now established themselves as a Championship club. What I like about Brentford is they invest in young players either players not getting enough game time in Premier league or buying talent from lower leagues, as well as having a number of experienced players in their team. They don't overspend either but invest enough capital which has proven in recent years to make them good profit. This would be the stage where Eales in my opinion would not be able to financially facilitate and would need to consider if someone else should take the club on. Obviously currently being a league 1 club means Eales is happy enough to fund the club but if you look at Brentford they average 10k in the Championship which is what Oxford would get when we get there so in my opinion it can be realistic for Oxford under the correct ownership to establish themselves as a Championship club say in the next 4 to 5 years. Wholeheartedly agree with you, they are an exemplary model. However the issue of them averaging 10K (which we could match in the Championship) is slightly redundant, as that number allows them to float financially, while our limited income from matchdays is not going to support us. I dread to bring up the whole ground ownership issue, now that the whole debate seems to have cooled for a bit on this forum at least...
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 20, 2017 16:34:25 GMT
Sorry to put a damper on your post but on that performance that is not this seasons title winning side, We need a much better striker than what we have seen tonight or at least a striker that could complement our strikers. As Brentford strikers proved with their runs tonight they left our defence at sixes and sevens. There still requires a lot of work to make our team be in contention for at least a play off place. I don't know... we wont play many L1 teams that good.. I thought the defence was reasonably solid in the main down the right and the centre.. lets face it none of them are really going to be putting their bodies on the line and throwing themselves into the tackle at this stage pre-season. Plus some of the them were moving a bit gingerly at times especially in the final 1/3d of the game .. I suspect that arch nemesis of pre-season games... BLISTERS...don't laugh they can be a serious problem. Of course there's work to be done, it starts game 1 and carries on until game 46. ! But I'm optimistic we have the basis of a good side at this moment. Fare comment but someone should have told Eastwood not to put his body on the lie and got stitches as result and couple mins after he was replaced we were 1-0 down 😰
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Post by grenobleroad on Jul 20, 2017 17:22:28 GMT
The movement from hemmings for his goal 👍 And that is why I think he may be the surprise package for us this year. He's got the attributes he just needs the confidence.
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Post by Young Money on Jul 20, 2017 17:48:16 GMT
I'd rather lose a pre-season game 4-3 than 1-0. We have goals in our team.
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Post by The Fence End on Jul 20, 2017 18:40:45 GMT
The movement from hemmings for his goal 👍 And that is why I think he may be the surprise package for us this year. He's got the attributes he just needs the confidence. He looks to have slimmed down a bit too.
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