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Post by uptheus on Jul 18, 2017 20:23:53 GMT
I think we missed him when he didn't play.
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Post by sideoftheleft on Jul 18, 2017 20:25:51 GMT
Sheff Utd fans getting excited that they are getting kundstram now we have signed another midfielder.....love to prove them wrong
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Post by ttg17 on Jul 18, 2017 20:30:42 GMT
To be clear - I like Lunny. I like his attitude, I think he grew into last season, he's always hunting for the ball. It's just a matter of where we are now vs. where we were a year ago. That Barnet clip is a good example - they were crap and Lunny had a field day. We don't play that kind of crap anymore. If he stays, I'm sure he'll add to our promotion push, but I just don't think he can primary playmaker anymore, and if we get offered a wad of cash for him, I think he should go. As rightly pointed out here - Nelson and Ledson are far more integral to who we are as a team. EDIT - A 3 man midfield would certainly benefit Lunny. I'd like to see it in action... Wouldn't a three man midfield leave our strikers even more isolated than they were last year? How would a three man midfield work exactly? For the record I agree with your posts; from what I've seen of Rothwell (which admittedly isn't that much) and heard about his preseason this year, a midfield 'diamond' of him and ledson sounds like it would be more dynamic and effective than either of them coupled with Lunny. That would also mean we could play with two up top, which would presumably suit our strikers more: a BNB (Obika/Thomas) at 9 with a 10 (Hemmings/maybe Henry) playing off him.
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Post by backonthecoupon on Jul 18, 2017 20:32:46 GMT
To be clear - I like Lunny. I like his attitude, I think he grew into last season, he's always hunting for the ball. It's just a matter of where we are now vs. where we were a year ago. That Barnet clip is a good example - they were crap and Lunny had a field day. We don't play that kind of crap anymore. If he stays, I'm sure he'll add to our promotion push, but I just don't think he can primary playmaker anymore, and if we get offered a wad of cash for him, I think he should go. As rightly pointed out here - Nelson and Ledson are far more integral to who we are as a team. EDIT - A 3 man midfield would certainly benefit Lunny. I'd like to see it in action... Do you think that Ledson could step into that role, he has a decent range of passing etc No he's a different style of player. Yes his padding is decent but not Lunny quarterback standard. His qualities are different.
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Post by socrates on Jul 18, 2017 21:14:01 GMT
Wel if that's true don't matter who their asst manager is I would hope Eales would get the best deal and not pittance a few million they've got the money Would be a travesty if he went for anything less than Roofe did. I for one think we should be getting more for him than we did Roofe, and like you said it's not like they don't have the money. hahaha
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Post by campbell on Jul 19, 2017 8:38:20 GMT
Would be a travesty if he went for anything less than Roofe did. I for one think we should be getting more for him than we did Roofe, and like you said it's not like they don't have the money. hahaha This was in reference to Marv, not Lunny.
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Post by foley on Jul 19, 2017 8:51:51 GMT
If anybody is going it better be pretty quick.
It looks as if Lundstrom will probably be off. That would be a real shame but with only a year left on his contract and getting a chance to go to Championship side- can't blame him or the club. I suspect that we have turned down half a million but would be surprised if we didn't let him go for £750K or so. In the midfield department we have a number of options now at least.
I would be very surprised if Nelson went. he is the obvious choice as Captain. Johnson going would be a big set back but again if a Premiership club are after him as a 26 year old it would be very difficult to stop him. I can only assume that if this happened we had a couple of big signings lined up (as this will nit be a huge susprise)
It must be hugely frustrating for Pep to have the training camp and tour in Portugal to potentially then have 2 of his best players lined to other clubs with just over 2 weeks left to the new season.
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Post by outsidethebox on Jul 19, 2017 9:41:57 GMT
If anybody is going it better be pretty quick. It looks as if Lundstrom will probably be off. That would be a real shame but with only a year left on his contract and getting a chance to go to Championship side- can't blame him or the club. I suspect that we have turned down half a million but would be surprised if we didn't let him go for £750K or so. In the midfield department we have a number of options now at least. I would be very surprised if Nelson went. he is the obvious choice as Captain. Johnson going would be a big set back but again if a Premiership club are after him as a 26 year old it would be very difficult to stop him. I can only assume that if this happened we had a couple of big signings lined up (as this will nit be a huge susprise) It must be hugely frustrating for Pep to have the training camp and tour in Portugal to potentially then have 2 of his best players lined to other clubs with just over 2 weeks left to the new season. Interesting one that. I guess at interview he was told he was under no obligation to sell players (DE said that after Pep's appointment was announced). However, I suspect he knows the transfer system well enough to understand situations akin to Lunny's. If he did his homework, and to interview excellently he probably did, he won't have come in blind to the prospect of losing players almost immediately.
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Post by sheikdjibouti on Jul 19, 2017 9:59:40 GMT
If anybody is going it better be pretty quick. It looks as if Lundstrom will probably be off. That would be a real shame but with only a year left on his contract and getting a chance to go to Championship side- can't blame him or the club. I suspect that we have turned down half a million but would be surprised if we didn't let him go for £750K or so. In the midfield department we have a number of options now at least. I would be very surprised if Nelson went. he is the obvious choice as Captain. Johnson going would be a big set back but again if a Premiership club are after him as a 26 year old it would be very difficult to stop him. I can only assume that if this happened we had a couple of big signings lined up (as this will nit be a huge susprise) It must be hugely frustrating for Pep to have the training camp and tour in Portugal to potentially then have 2 of his best players lined to other clubs with just over 2 weeks left to the new season. Interesting one that. I guess at interview he was told he was under no obligation to sell players (DE said that after Pep's appointment was announced). However, I suspect he knows the transfer system well enough to understand situations akin to Lunny's. If he did his homework, and to interview excellently he probably did, he won't have come in blind to the prospect of losing players almost immediately. Quite - I would really hope he was wise enough to realise that this is the lot for most clubs in the Lower leagues with any saleable assets - just becasue we may not have to sell is not the same as saying we will not sell. I also hope he had done his homework to realise where the risks to our current squad were and had formulated a backup plan for such a circumstance. Surely any competent manager would do the same?
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Post by highlights on Jul 19, 2017 13:49:07 GMT
To be clear - I like Lunny. I like his attitude, I think he grew into last season, he's always hunting for the ball. It's just a matter of where we are now vs. where we were a year ago. That Barnet clip is a good example - they were crap and Lunny had a field day. We don't play that kind of crap anymore. If he stays, I'm sure he'll add to our promotion push, but I just don't think he can primary playmaker anymore, and if we get offered a wad of cash for him, I think he should go. As rightly pointed out here - Nelson and Ledson are far more integral to who we are as a team. EDIT - A 3 man midfield would certainly benefit Lunny. I'd like to see it in action... Wouldn't a three man midfield leave our strikers even more isolated than they were last year? How would a three man midfield work exactly? For the record I agree with your posts; from what I've seen of Rothwell (which admittedly isn't that much) and heard about his preseason this year, a midfield 'diamond' of him and ledson sounds like it would be more dynamic and effective than either of them coupled with Lunny. That would also mean we could play with two up top, which would presumably suit our strikers more: a BNB (Obika/Thomas) at 9 with a 10 (Hemmings/maybe Henry) playing off him. Devil's in the detail... You can play a 'double 6' - JR and RL - with Rothwell playing an advanced playmaker role, or perhaps Henry playing at the tip of a three, with Rothwell mucking in a bit more. With Xemi arriving I think we will see Ledson holding, Xemi doing the box to box work and Rothwell behind a main striker. I like midfield threes. I think the options it provides you are endless. You then need a target man (typically at least) to hold in together. What I think we are seeing from Pep (and I'll admit it's a guess) is collecting players that can do different jobs in different formations, which I have been crying out for under Appleton. I think you'll see us turn into a much more fluid squad, with average appearances going right down as the team is regularly changed for different situations
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Post by londonroader on Jul 19, 2017 14:20:56 GMT
Interesting one that. I guess at interview he was told he was under no obligation to sell players (DE said that after Pep's appointment was announced). However, I suspect he knows the transfer system well enough to understand situations akin to Lunny's. If he did his homework, and to interview excellently he probably did, he won't have come in blind to the prospect of losing players almost immediately. Quite - I would really hope he was wise enough to realise that this is the lot for most clubs in the Lower leagues with any saleable assets - just becasue we may not have to sell is not the same as saying we will not sell. I also hope he had done his homework to realise where the risks to our current squad were and had formulated a backup plan for such a circumstance. Surely any competent manager would do the same? Apart from this barca kid I doubt Pep has had much input in the player recruitment process, It looks like the recruitment team have followed through on the targets they agreed with Mapp
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Post by yellowsarmy on Jul 19, 2017 14:24:54 GMT
Wouldn't a three man midfield leave our strikers even more isolated than they were last year? How would a three man midfield work exactly? For the record I agree with your posts; from what I've seen of Rothwell (which admittedly isn't that much) and heard about his preseason this year, a midfield 'diamond' of him and ledson sounds like it would be more dynamic and effective than either of them coupled with Lunny. That would also mean we could play with two up top, which would presumably suit our strikers more: a BNB (Obika/Thomas) at 9 with a 10 (Hemmings/maybe Henry) playing off him. Devil's in the detail... You can play a 'double 6' - JR and RL - with Rothwell playing an advanced playmaker role, or perhaps Henry playing at the tip of a three, with Rothwell mucking in a bit more. With Xemi arriving I think we will see Ledson holding, Xemi doing the box to box work and Rothwell behind a main striker. I like midfield threes. I think the options it provides you are endless. You then need a target man (typically at least) to hold in together. What I think we are seeing from Pep (and I'll admit it's a guess) is collecting players that can do different jobs in different formations, which I have been crying out for under Appleton. I think you'll see us turn into a much more fluid squad, with average appearances going right down as the team is regularly changed for different situationsThat is a relief i said last year after our two losses to wimbledon that to play that style once against them was poor to do it a second time was unforgivable. My major critisism of MAPP was his refusal to change things around (untill very end of the season) and I think his lack of substitutions before 75 mins showed we only had one way of playing. If we can play different styles depending on the opposition we could get those extra points needed for a playoff place.
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Post by leysboy on Jul 19, 2017 14:28:30 GMT
Not a playoff place. We should be aiming for top two! We have the players for it, as the squad is jam packed with talent.
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Post by londonroader on Jul 19, 2017 14:31:19 GMT
Not a playoff place. We should be aiming for top two! We have the players for it, as the squad is jam packed with talent. There's no Robinson or Hartley in our squad...
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Post by holdsteady on Jul 19, 2017 14:31:58 GMT
Quite - I would really hope he was wise enough to realise that this is the lot for most clubs in the Lower leagues with any saleable assets - just becasue we may not have to sell is not the same as saying we will not sell. I also hope he had done his homework to realise where the risks to our current squad were and had formulated a backup plan for such a circumstance. Surely any competent manager would do the same? Apart from this barca kid I doubt Pep has had much input in the player recruitment process, It looks like the recruitment team have followed through on the targets they agreed with Mapp The Ex Swansea full back is one of Clotets.
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Post by sheikdjibouti on Jul 19, 2017 14:45:26 GMT
Quite - I would really hope he was wise enough to realise that this is the lot for most clubs in the Lower leagues with any saleable assets - just becasue we may not have to sell is not the same as saying we will not sell. I also hope he had done his homework to realise where the risks to our current squad were and had formulated a backup plan for such a circumstance. Surely any competent manager would do the same? Apart from this barca kid I doubt Pep has had much input in the player recruitment process, It looks like the recruitment team have followed through on the targets they agreed with Mapp Only if Clotet was unaware of these signings when he agreed to take the role. I would sincerely hope they were already part of his planning in terms of what he felt the squad still needed and where replacements may need to be identified as a contingency...common sense, no?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 19, 2017 15:11:58 GMT
Apparently Sheffield Utd are upping their ante for L1 midfielder, that's Ryan Leanord of Sarfend, maybe his knock back in his quest for Lunny has p*ssed him off so looking elsewhere
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Post by littlemore on Jul 19, 2017 15:36:50 GMT
Apparently Sheffield Utd are upping their ante for L1 midfielder, that's Ryan Leanord of Sarfend, maybe his knock back in his quest for Lunny has p*ssed him off so looking elsewhere He's been after Ryan Leonard all summer. Many thought Lunny might be the back up option if he couldn't get Leonard.
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Post by bigronaldo on Jul 19, 2017 15:54:55 GMT
Perhaps wilder just looked on here and saw that Lundstram was 'too slow.'
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Post by yellowsarmy on Jul 19, 2017 15:59:26 GMT
Apparently Sheffield Utd are upping their ante for L1 midfielder, that's Ryan Leanord of Sarfend, maybe his knock back in his quest for Lunny has p*ssed him off so looking elsewhere Well that just means if Lunny goes elsewhere he can say he was punted his way first because old chippy always gets first dibbs on any player ever it's the law. Section 12.3.6 of the FA transfer rules.
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Post by leysboy on Jul 19, 2017 16:03:10 GMT
Didn't Leonard put in a transfer request a couple of days ago.
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 19, 2017 16:29:42 GMT
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Post by utb on Jul 19, 2017 17:19:01 GMT
Oxon based Blade in peace.
I wouldn't worry too much at this stage. Leonard has been Wilder's #1 target all summer but the Southend Chairman is understandably trying his best not to lose their best player. Whether he eventually leaves (esp as Millwall have apparently now been priced out of acquiring him) remains to be seen but word in Sheff is that Lundstrum is Wilder's plan B. A bit strange IMHO as from the games I've seen they're quite different central midfielders, especially as Utd already have a similar, and most would argue better, player to Lundstrum in Paul Coutts (as shown in the second half of the game at the Kassam last season when Lundstrum was chasing shadows).
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 19, 2017 17:24:05 GMT
I thought Wilder was after Leonard as his no.1 target, second preference is MK Dons Ben Reeves and Lundstram is third choice.
I would agree that Coutts was good at our place!
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Post by uptheus on Jul 19, 2017 17:57:15 GMT
Not in squad.
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Post by ox18 on Jul 19, 2017 18:03:19 GMT
Obika missing as well, hope we have not signed an injury prone player as some of the scum fans were suggesting.
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Post by uptheus on Jul 19, 2017 18:06:32 GMT
Why is Lundstram not in the squad? Sheffield bound?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 19, 2017 18:13:50 GMT
Seen driving away from the stadium in his Oxford Kit
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Post by grenobleroad on Jul 19, 2017 18:28:14 GMT
Seen driving away from the stadium in his Oxford Kit Shinpads & boots too?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 19, 2017 18:30:47 GMT
Seen driving away from the stadium in his Oxford Kit Full kit w*nker
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