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Post by uptheus on Jun 21, 2017 16:56:50 GMT
Does anyone know if Faz and Chrissy will be taking the reins until a Head Coach/Manager is on board?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 21, 2017 17:01:19 GMT
Does anyone know if Faz and Chrissy will be raking the reins until a Head Ciach/Manager is on board? That must have been in the club statement right ?
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Post by uptheus on Jun 21, 2017 17:09:29 GMT
Does anyone know if Faz and Chrissy will be raking the reins until a Head Ciach/Manager is on board? That must have been in the club statement right ? Don't recall seeing them mentioned!
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 21, 2017 17:25:44 GMT
Does anyone know if Faz and Chrissy will be raking the reins until a Head Ciach/Manager is on board? That must have been in the club statement right ? The fact that it wasn't would point to external recruitment, but inevitably there will be some crossover of roles until a new manager/head coach is found. No conspiracy to be found here!!!
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Post by Toeby on Jun 22, 2017 5:29:48 GMT
I'm not one to try and stifle debate, or stop people from asking vital questions. However Myles, I see this thread and some of your recent posts and wonder if there is more than meets the eye. Here's a thread you started in June 2014, where you profile the motives of the two prospective consortiums: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/18230/forget-personalities?page=1It seems to me that you clearly favoured Charlie's consortium. And shortly after Eales took over, you started this thread, which wasn't exactly complimentary about the new owners: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/18267/due-diligence-ashton-ealesSartori's bid was recently rejected by Eales. I reckon Charlie was involved in this bid, as he was in the 2014 consortium. I can see that you and Charlie often back each other up on the forum. All this leaves me wondering.....do you know Charlie? And are you on good terms with him?
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 22, 2017 6:58:03 GMT
I'm not one to try and stifle debate, or stop people from asking vital questions. However Myles, I see this thread and some of your recent posts and wonder if there is more than meets the eye. Here's a thread you started in June 2014, where you profile the motives of the two prospective consortiums: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/18230/forget-personalities?page=1It seems to me that you clearly favoured Charlie's consortium. And shortly after Eales took over, you started this thread, which wasn't exactly complimentary about the new owners: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/18267/due-diligence-ashton-ealesSartori's bid was recently rejected by Eales. I reckon Charlie was involved in this bid, as he was in the 2014 consortium. I can see that you and Charlie often back each other up on the forum. All this leaves me wondering.....do you know Charlie? And are you on good terms with him? Myles clearly has his own agenda and like a number of other posters he goes missing for months at a time when things are good. He will talk at length about how we should ask challenging questions but gives little substance beyond that.
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Post by foley on Jun 22, 2017 7:41:23 GMT
I'm not one to try and stifle debate, or stop people from asking vital questions. However Myles, I see this thread and some of your recent posts and wonder if there is more than meets the eye. Here's a thread you started in June 2014, where you profile the motives of the two prospective consortiums: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/18230/forget-personalities?page=1It seems to me that you clearly favoured Charlie's consortium. And shortly after Eales took over, you started this thread, which wasn't exactly complimentary about the new owners: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/18267/due-diligence-ashton-ealesSartori's bid was recently rejected by Eales. I reckon Charlie was involved in this bid, as he was in the 2014 consortium. I can see that you and Charlie often back each other up on the forum. All this leaves me wondering.....do you know Charlie? And are you on good terms with him? Myles clearly has his own agenda and like a number of other posters he goes missing for months at a time when things are good. He will talk at length about how we should ask challenging questions but gives little substance beyond that. I really don't know whether Myles 'has an agenda' or not, but a lot of the questions he is asking are ones that I have a lot of sympathy with. Even forgetting the 'rumours' (and I am not talking about DE's private life which is of no interest to me), there are things that have happened which we as fans can see that are a little contradictory and I would say concerning (and these have been debated at length on here) I think that Oxvox are the best people to put forward those questions directly to DE. Whether they get clear responses will say something in itself.
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Post by myles on Jun 22, 2017 7:52:38 GMT
It's no great secret that I know Charlie and, yes, we often agree on things. Those who have been around this forum and its predecessor will also recognise that we've also clashed swords on a number of occasions.
I always find it interesting when people go trawling through past posts, but it's usually to find contradictions in what people have said before. As has been highlighted here, I've been pretty consistent in my views of Eales. Right from the very first fans forum I've found him to be thin-skinned, not open to questioning, unable to understand the views of other people, and demanding of praise. But, hey, other people think he's a hero - and that's just the way of the world.
As for "scotchegg"'s predictable ad hominem, there's a load of substance in that opening post which clearly he doesn't feel comfortable with, so just trots out the usual nonsense from the safety of his anonymous handle. If people want to throw accusations of agendas about, I'd suggest that they are best aimed at those who just try and shout down any reasonable questions with personal jibes.
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Post by haventgotakalou on Jun 22, 2017 8:04:02 GMT
Those who have been around this forum and its predecessor will also recognise that we've also clashed swords on a number of occasions. Didn't realise you were that close... 😂
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 22, 2017 8:09:53 GMT
It's no great secret that I know Charlie and, yes, we often agree on things. Those who have been around this forum and its predecessor will also recognise that we've also clashed swords on a number of occasions. I always find it interesting when people go trawling through past posts, but it's usually to find contradictions in what people have said before. As has been highlighted here, I've been pretty consistent in my views of Eales. Right from the very first fans forum I've found him to be thin-skinned, not open to questioning, unable to understand the views of other people, and demanding of praise. But, hey, other people think he's a hero - and that's just the way of the world. As for "scotchegg"'s predictable ad hominem, there's a load of substance in that opening post which clearly he doesn't feel comfortable with, so just trots out the usual nonsense from the safety of his anonymous handle. If people want to throw accusations of agendas about, I'd suggest that they are best aimed at those who just try and shout down any reasonable questions with personal jibes. Yawn!!
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Post by manorlounger on Jun 22, 2017 8:13:59 GMT
A lot more of us are becoming concerned about how the club has been and is being run in recent times. Some time before Christmas last it was apparent that all was not well. Contradictory statements regarding finance, key staffing positions and the inability to even have discussions over the stadium situation led more than a few of us to doubt Darryl Eales's position.Grateful as we all are for what has been achieved, the limitations and suggested financial constraints of the current board are clear to see. Moreover it would appear that the personal issues of Darryl are perhaps influencing decision making. I stress perhaps.
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Post by finlandia on Jun 22, 2017 8:14:52 GMT
It's no great secret that I know Charlie and, yes, we often agree on things. Those who have been around this forum and its predecessor will also recognise that we've also clashed swords on a number of occasions. I always find it interesting when people go trawling through past posts, but it's usually to find contradictions in what people have said before. As has been highlighted here, I've been pretty consistent in my views of Eales. Right from the very first fans forum I've found him to be thin-skinned, not open to questioning, unable to understand the views of other people, and demanding of praise. But, hey, other people think he's a hero - and that's just the way of the world. As for "scotchegg"'s predictable ad hominem, there's a load of substance in that opening post which clearly he doesn't feel comfortable with, so just trots out the usual nonsense from the safety of his anonymous handle. If people want to throw accusations of agendas about, I'd suggest that they are best aimed at those who just try and shout down any reasonable questions with personal jibes. Give it rest - people aren't stupid on this forum. It's obvious what is going on. People have agendas, but don't insult people's intelligence.
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Post by tbfuth14 on Jun 22, 2017 11:37:47 GMT
I'm not sure what "agenda" people think Myles has, and if he does have one, in my eyes it's for the good of the club. Every time there's been an important moment in the clubs recent history (takeover consortiums, ground issues, in this case the entire infrastructure being torn to shreds) he's at the forefront asking the questions to ensure supporters aren't left in the dark. I honestly don't understand anyone who would complain about that, but that's my opinion, I'm not a fan of closing my eyes and pretending everything's okay.
There are genuine concerns about how the club is being run RIGHT NOW. That's not over the last 2/3 years, but at this very point in time. Those concerns and questions may not be popular after our recent successes, but they are necessary. Obviously it's an extreme comparison, but I'm sure Blackpool fans would go back and ask these questions earlier if they could. After Premier League promotion and even relegation I bet plenty of their fans were backing the Oystons for recent successes. Now I'm not comparing Eales to Oyston because that's obviously ludicrous, but I'm pointing out how things in football can change very quickly and it's important to make sure our club as a bright future.
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Post by backonthecoupon on Jun 22, 2017 11:59:08 GMT
Agenda or not you should play the questions not the man
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Post by surbitonyellow on Jun 22, 2017 12:49:55 GMT
I was reading Myles' points , thinking to myself, these are constructive thoughtful points and there are plenty of issues to be addressed.
So we should address them.
But then it was said that he has an agenda. I immediately spat out my tea and decided we shouldn't engage with those points at all, or appraise the merits of the arguments.
Is that really how all football supporters are supposed to behave? Really?
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 22, 2017 16:03:00 GMT
So, let's take a little look at Myles, his agenda and the questions he asks.
Firstly, going back 3 years he was throwing his weight behind Charlie and his gang on the basis that they were local and had a affiliation to the club. DE and Ashton were described as West Brom fans (?!) out to make money. The question was asked, if we were mid table in the conference but making DE money what would we think?
(Update, we're top end league 1 and DE continues to spend!)
30 months down the line, the club has achieved more success than many could have ever predicted. But the stadium deal is proving to be almost impossible and DE throws a bit of a strop. At the same time, Charlie introduces JS and others and a bid is put forward. Up steps Myles to muddy the water as to the issues within the club.
JS bid is turned down, for reasons unknown. Many have pointed the finger at DE, but there could have bern any number of reasons why the bid just wasn't right for DE, the club, or both.
We then get swapped with rumours, half stories and assumptions. All of which point to DE ruining our club and a season of failure ahead.
Yes, key staff have left, but events over the last couple of days indicate that few in the game see us as a club in crisis. Of course, MApp leaving is a blow, particularly at this time, but the £300k bid for a defender, MApps own words, the fact that we are looking at established managers and haven't cashed in on many of our assets, would indicate that we have a competitive budget this year.
People come and go within every club in the country. We are undoubtedly in a process of transformation but we are hopefully looking at bringing in someone in the same vein as MApp with the opportunity to develop the squad further. I've never got hung up on top 6 budgets etc, but I'd be amazed if we're not in the top 10 spenders and then it is a case of getting more from those here. Something we have done throughout DE's time at the club.
So whilst there is uncertainty and issues, the next few weeks will hopefully settle everything and put us on course for further progress.
So Myles, keep posting whatever you want. But your fears were unfounded 3 years ago, and in the absence of FACTS to the contrary, your fears remain just that.
Ps. Give my love to Charlie!!
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 22, 2017 16:46:48 GMT
Well there's a couple of points I would say I have got wrong in that for a start . 1/ de supports Birmingham not wba, I'm not sure on Ashton favourite club but again I don't thinks it's wba. 2/ stewart has said himself that it was him that out sartori in touch with Darryl not charlie. Just for clarity! wouldn't want u starting unfounded rumour or gossip about myles without it being fact would we Ps I'm glad u have acknowledged that the events of the last few days show a few in the game think we are a club in crisis. you may wanna edit that
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 22, 2017 16:52:03 GMT
Well there's a couple of points I would say I have got wrong in that for a start . 1/ de supports Birmingham not wba, I'm not sure on Ashton favourite club but again I don't thinks it's wba. 2/ stewart has said himself that it was him that out sartori in touch with Darryl not charlie. Just for clarity! wouldn't want u starting unfounded rumour or gossip about myles without it being fact would we Ps I'm glad u have acknowledged that the events of the last few days show a few in the game think we are a club in crisis. you may wanna edit that The point being that few (less than most etc) see us as a club in crisis, therefore many (more than most) have no concerns. I'm well aware who DE supported, unfortunately Myles didn't! And who put JS in touch with SD? (For the record, I don't know but Charlie did say that he was involved at some point but can't remember exactly how it played out!)
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 22, 2017 17:02:47 GMT
Rumour, guessing . burn him at the stake. In all seriousness though I can see why people would be annoyed by the questioning of Darryl. Like I said no one has to believe what people write it's a forum and if u haven't heard anything yourself then it probably looks unfounded. But spinning it on its head, and ignoring who has said what and when. If you heard from people you trusted beyond doubt, or had possibly seen evidence but couldn't share it. That the chairman had been cutting costs. Had been acting unprofessionally in his role. Had made the manager consider leaving. And had offered the club to firoz . Plus more Had run up more debt than ever in our history What would your reaction be ? Would u post your concerns on a forum? Or just bury your head in the sand and hope the good times continue. As I've said before it probably hasn't helped with the time of year, as we have nothing else to talk about in games or signings or anything. And from my perspective he's more than capable of putting his mistakes right, and answering those doubts. Hopefully the asking of those questions will mean he does exactly that
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Post by arthurturner on Jun 22, 2017 17:10:00 GMT
Well the "agenda" of Myles and others seems to be to paint an unfavourable picture of Darryl Eales without any evidence of him having done anything wrong. If there was even a hint that the club was in turmoil surely by now evidence of this would have surfaced? All this villification of the man by innuendo is so demoralising. Either put up or shut up.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 22, 2017 17:13:19 GMT
I'll ask you as well Arthur, while there is no physical evidence, apart from 4 key roles being empty. If u had it on good authority from people you trusted. Would you share your concerns or would u ignore them and hope they are not true or go away ?
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jun 22, 2017 17:24:38 GMT
I'll ask you as well Arthur, while there is no physical evidence, apart from 4 key roles being empty. If u had it on good authority from people you trusted. Would you share your concerns or would u ignore them and hope they are not true or go away ? It's all getting rather hysterical, isn't it? Reasonable questions are asked, that's all, and it's interpreted as 'painting an unfavourable picture' and 'vilification by innuendo'. Arthur suggests Myles ('and others') put up or shut up. Well Myles has 'put up'. He's put up questions that any supporter should want to know the answer to. This is a f*cking discussion forum. A few people are trying to shut down debate, including closing certain threads, because they feel Mr Eales is above criticism and nothing going on at the club should even be challenged. No chairman will ever be above questioning by paying punters.
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Post by londonroader on Jun 22, 2017 17:54:26 GMT
I'll ask you as well Arthur, while there is no physical evidence, apart from 4 key roles being empty. If u had it on good authority from people you trusted. Would you share your concerns or would u ignore them and hope they are not true or go away ? It's all getting rather hysterical, isn't it? Reasonable questions are asked, that's all, and it's interpreted as 'painting an unfavourable picture' and 'vilification by innuendo'. Arthur suggests Myles ('and others') put up or shut up. Well Myles has 'put up'. He's put up questions that any supporter should want to know the answer to. This is a f*cking discussion forum. A few people are trying to shut down debate, including closing certain threads, because they feel Mr Eales is above criticism and nothing going on at the club should even be challenged. No chairman will ever be above questioning by paying punters. Yes that the feeling I have Pete, peeps are trying to stifle debate and try to paint these posters as anti DE. Well here is a shock, this is an Oxford Utd forum for Oxford Utd fans to discuss their club, the good and bad. it's not inclusive to have to like DE to support the club fans can make their own mind up on his action, it's not being dis-loyal to the club by questioning anything that fans think should or shouldn't be happening. Just like Mapp, if DE leaves it wont be the end of the club I will still watch my team when I decide to, even in the conference the fans turned up to watch their team, sod all to with the club or ground owners, they can tuck their ego's back in their pants as it won't stop me following OUFC until I drop dead.
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 22, 2017 18:03:33 GMT
I'll ask you as well Arthur, while there is no physical evidence, apart from 4 key roles being empty. If u had it on good authority from people you trusted. Would you share your concerns or would u ignore them and hope they are not true or go away ? It's all getting rather hysterical, isn't it? Reasonable questions are asked, that's all, and it's interpreted as 'painting an unfavourable picture' and 'vilification by innuendo'. Arthur suggests Myles ('and others') put up or shut up. Well Myles has 'put up'. He's put up questions that any supporter should want to know the answer to. This is a f*cking discussion forum. A few people are trying to shut down debate, including closing certain threads, because they feel Mr Eales is above criticism. He isn't: no chairman ever will be. For the record, I've never tried to stop debate - just putting across an alternative view. I will be the first to accept that the situation is confusing and communication has been awful. But equally, some of the issues being thrown at DE are unnecessary. Far too much has been made of the 'top 6 budget'. I would guess that last season, the difference between the 3rd or 4th biggest budgets and the 10th biggest would have been minimal. Could we match the top spenders? Very unlikely. Can we compete with the rest? Almost certainly. The stadium issue has been a mess for everyone involved. Has DE made mistakes? Probably. But OxVox were as good as we could hope for and still struggled to make progress. So, a bit unfair to continue to beat DE with a stick on this one. Personal issues, rumours and half stories - I won't comment on as I don't know enough and many similar situations have come to nothing in the past. Playing budget? Of course MApp wanted more, every manager does. But by his own words (if we believe him) MApp didn't blame this for him leaving. And the £300k bid and the fact that none of our assets are being touted around would suggest that we are not skint. Backroom staff? Yes the number of vacancies are unusual, and may well be part of a cost cutting programme. We are definitely missing a trick with marketing and day to day management but I wouldn't go as far as saying this puts us in crisis. The takeover was confusing and we all want more information from all sides. But it is likely that we will never find out the full details and whilst we can all speculate as to the reasons why, ultimately that is all it is. So, yes questions exist. Things are far from perfect. And we all want news to come through quickly to stop all this nonsense. But whatever views we have, we are all united in wanting the best for our club regardless who we have as chairman, manager, centre backs etc.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jun 22, 2017 18:08:23 GMT
It's all getting rather hysterical, isn't it? Reasonable questions are asked, that's all, and it's interpreted as 'painting an unfavourable picture' and 'vilification by innuendo'. Arthur suggests Myles ('and others') put up or shut up. Well Myles has 'put up'. He's put up questions that any supporter should want to know the answer to. This is a f*cking discussion forum. A few people are trying to shut down debate, including closing certain threads, because they feel Mr Eales is above criticism. He isn't: no chairman ever will be. For the record, I've never tried to stop debate - just putting across an alternative view. I know. I certainly wasn't thinking of you as one of the would-be censors.I will be the first to accept that the situation is confusing and communication has been awful. But equally, some of the issues being thrown at DE are unnecessary. Far too much has been made of the 'top 6 budget'. I would guess that last season, the difference between the 3rd or 4th biggest budgets and the 10th biggest would have been minimal. Could we match the top spenders? Very unlikely. Can we compete with the rest? Almost certainly. The stadium issue has been a mess for everyone involved. Has DE made mistakes? Probably. But OxVox were as good as we could hope for and still struggled to make progress. So, a bit unfair to continue to beat DE with a stick on this one. Personal issues, rumours and half stories - I won't comment on as I don't know enough and many similar situations have come to nothing in the past. Neither would I comment of baseless tittle tattle. It's a fact that we lack back room staff though.
Playing budget? Of course MApp wanted more, every manager does. But by his own words (if we believe him) MApp didn't blame this for him leaving. And the £300k bid and the fact that none of our assets are being touted around would suggest that we are not skint. Backroom staff? Yes the number of vacancies are unusual, and may well be part of a cost cutting programme. We are definitely missing a trick with marketing and day to day management but I wouldn't go as far as saying this puts us in crisis. The takeover was confusing and we all want more information from all sides. But it is likely that we will never find out the full details and whilst we can all speculate as to the reasons why, ultimately that is all it is. So, yes questions exist. Things are far from perfect. And we all want news to come through quickly to stop all this nonsense. This is key. Let's ask reasonable questions.
But whatever views we have, we are all united in wanting the best for our club regardless who we have as chairman, manager, centre backs etc. Undoubtedly.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jun 22, 2017 18:20:21 GMT
Just a point on cost cutting, OUFC were/are seen within the game by other similar clubs as having a back room team of staff that was well above what most would have at League 1 level. This includes the academy set up we have which has a large number of staff that would be classed as extra for a Cat 3 academy. On the academy point, next season we have extended the staffing by adding an extra role that Les Taylor will be taking on.
So if people see cost cutting as having a staffing level similar to league 1 then so be it. I see it as cutting our cloth accordingly.
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Post by arthurturner on Jun 22, 2017 19:31:03 GMT
Asking a reasonable question is one thing. Suggesting that the Chairman is falling short without any evidence whatsoever is another. Is anyone aware of any misgivings any of the employees of the club have that DE is not running the ship properly? Or that the current staffing levels are not being addressed? Or that the playing budget is inadequate? ( Did we not a few days ago make an offer £300,000+to Partick Thistle for a player?). Is DE to be castigated for not accepting an alleged offer for the club from Santori? Yes, of course this is a forum on which all these things can be debated but to conclude that all the things which are perceived to be wrong with the club must therefore be wrong per se and that it's all the chairman's fault, even though they may not be wrong at all, is not right.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jun 22, 2017 19:40:50 GMT
Asking a reasonable question is one thing. Suggesting that the Chairman is falling short without any evidence whatsoever is another. Is anyone aware of any misgivings any of the employees of the club have that DE is not running the ship properly? Or that the current staffing levels are not being addressed? Or that the playing budget is inadequate? ( Did we not a few days ago make an offer £300,000+to Partick Thistle for a player?). Is DE to be castigated for not accepting an alleged offer for the club from Santori? Yes, of course this is a forum on which all these things can be debated but to conclude that all the things which are perceived to be wrong with the club must therefore be wrong per se and that it's all the chairman's fault, even though they may not be wrong at all, is not right. Groundhog day. You seem to think people are criticising everything the chairman has said and done. They're not. Some people have pointed out specific events they're not happy with. Get it into your head Arthur: some people have mentioned one thing they're not happy with, others a couple of things, others quite a few things. See where I'm going with this? You seem to think there's a gang of Eales-haters trying to bring him down and slamming every word he says, everything he does. Not the case. Not sure why you can't understand this. There is no organised anti-Eales movement, just people raising interesting questions that are worthy of debate.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 22, 2017 19:42:16 GMT
Asking a reasonable question is one thing. Suggesting that the Chairman is falling short without any evidence whatsoever is another. Is anyone aware of any misgivings any of the employees of the club have that DE is not running the ship properly? Or that the current staffing levels are not being addressed? Or that the playing budget is inadequate? ( Did we not a few days ago make an offer £300,000+to Partick Thistle for a player?). Is DE to be castigated for not accepting an alleged offer for the club from Santori? Yes, of course this is a forum on which all these things can be debated but to conclude that all the things which are perceived to be wrong with the club must therefore be wrong per se and that it's all the chairman's fault, even though they may not be wrong at all, is not right. But isn't that the point of asking questions Arthur? To get the answers. It is quite possible these are not all Darryls issues, but who else do u ask? The md ? The head of commercial ? Oxvox have asked some of these questions of Darryl - he hasn't answered. When he does speak, his statements are often contradictory to what he's said previously. He's had firoz, the council and oxvox release statements after his/the boards clearing up that they were not actually what happened. Look at the statement he realised at the successful meeting with the ultras- a very different version of events to tbfuth14. Like I've said if there is no truth in any of it, then come out and prove it, come out and tell us all what the plan is. Tell us where those mistakes have been made, but how u fully intend to put them right. All those people asking questions do have an agenda, the best for oufc. And u didn't answer the question. If u had been told all these concerns from people who u trusted, would u ask the questions? Or would u ignore them and back the chairman based purely on his past success.
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Post by Toeby on Jun 22, 2017 20:32:27 GMT
I'll ask you as well Arthur, while there is no physical evidence, apart from 4 key roles being empty. If u had it on good authority from people you trusted. Would you share your concerns or would u ignore them and hope they are not true or go away ? It's all getting rather hysterical, isn't it? Reasonable questions are asked, that's all, and it's interpreted as 'painting an unfavourable picture' and 'vilification by innuendo'. Arthur suggests Myles ('and others') put up or shut up. Well Myles has 'put up'. He's put up questions that any supporter should want to know the answer to. This is a f*cking discussion forum. A few people are trying to shut down debate, including closing certain threads, because they feel Mr Eales is above criticism and nothing going on at the club should even be challenged. No chairman will ever be above questioning by paying punters. I have no problem with questions being asked and I agree with what you're saying. But I suspect some posters on here are friendly with people in the group trying to buy the club from Eales, and it would be advantageous for that group if the fan base took a dim view of Eales. So, even though Myles does ask some valid questions, I'm taking his posts with a pinch of salt because I'm not sure if his intentions are what's best for the club, or what's best for his mate.
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