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Post by foley on Mar 25, 2017 22:09:06 GMT
Rubbish result. Cov picking up form. Could be a disappointing end to the season. Bloody hell mate. Must be a bundle of laughs to have a beer with you...
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Post by bigronaldo on Mar 25, 2017 23:34:02 GMT
Terrible pitch to play on today in their greenhouse of a ground. I felt first half we looked slightly jaded all round, passes going astray and nhampton never allowed any time for us to get a foot on the ball. Sercs put himself about and Ruffels had some nice touches. Dunks looked like a man who has strangely lost confidence for some reason, and his decision making seemed a bit haphazard. He was not all bad but there were a few glaring mistakes that i thought he had mostly purged from his play. Edwards was pretty good today but johnson on the left side, Until he moved into midfield second half, was quite reluctant to get forward. Maybe that was part of the gameplan, get forward when switched to midfield. It just seemed that he had the brakes on at left back. Their pen was nailed on from where i was stood, but the save from Easty was just great. The late on chance though that fell to Kane Hemmings really should have been put away, and the three points could easily have been ours. But it is rare to see an opposition goalie timewasting, at home with ten minutes to go... Sad to see really! Ps. I think that our supporters may have got him a little rattled as he clearly looked miffed as he trudged off!
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Post by nptonexile (Northampton fan) on Mar 25, 2017 23:39:43 GMT
My view on the game - Walking into ground along with Northampton fans = not a Derby and not a rivalry We played football they didn't Sprinklers sorry sprinkler pmsl - tinpot Eastwood πππ Playing for a draw, timewasting at 0-0 with 10 minutes to go at home - embarrassing Home side Singing 3 songs all day 2 of which were about last season - embarrassing Walking along the road with home fans after the match -= not a Derby and not a rivalry Easy trip home You are a tit aren't you! Do you think any Northampton care about you? No Oxford to be seen around town or Weedon Rd all day. Still, console yourself that you don't care about us!
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Post by nptonexile (Northampton fan) on Mar 25, 2017 23:42:14 GMT
Terrible pitch to play on today in their greenhouse of a ground. I felt first half we looked slightly jaded all round, passes going astray and nhampton never allowed any time for us to get a foot on the ball. Sercs put himself about and Ruffels had some nice touches. Dunks looked like a man who has strangely lost confidence for some reason, and his decision making seemed a bit haphazard. He was not all bad but there were a few glaring mistakes that i thought he had mostly purged from his play. Edwards was pretty good today but johnson on the left side, Until he moved into midfield second half, was quite reluctant to get forward. Maybe that was part of the gameplan, get forward when switched to midfield. It just seemed that he had the brakes on at left back. Their pen was nailed on from where i was stood, but the save from Easty was just great. The late on chance though that fell to Kane Hemmings really should have been put away, and the three points could easily have been ours. But it is rare to see an opposition goalie timewasting, at home with ten minutes to go... Sad to see really! Ps. I think that our supporters may have got him a little rattled as he clearly looked miffed as he trudged off! Terrible pitch...heard it all now! Of course, if OUFC don't win, it's the pitch, ref, other teams who can't play....blah blah!
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Post by scotchegg on Mar 25, 2017 23:45:39 GMT
My view on the game - Walking into ground along with Northampton fans = not a Derby and not a rivalry We played football they didn't Sprinklers sorry sprinkler pmsl - tinpot Eastwood πππ Playing for a draw, timewasting at 0-0 with 10 minutes to go at home - embarrassing Home side Singing 3 songs all day 2 of which were about last season - embarrassing Walking along the road with home fans after the match -= not a Derby and not a rivalry Easy trip home You are a tit aren't you! Do you think any Northampton care about you? No Oxford to be seen around town or Weedon Rd all day. Still, console yourself that you don't care about us! Looks like that pint went to your head! Now run along to bed, you don't want Mummy having to wake you on her big day!!!
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Post by blox21 on Mar 25, 2017 23:46:13 GMT
Decent pitch , a lot better than ours !
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Post by bigcrompy on Mar 25, 2017 23:53:34 GMT
My view on the game - Walking into ground along with Northampton fans = not a Derby and not a rivalry We played football they didn't Sprinklers sorry sprinkler pmsl - tinpot Eastwood πππ Playing for a draw, timewasting at 0-0 with 10 minutes to go at home - embarrassing Home side Singing 3 songs all day 2 of which were about last season - embarrassing Walking along the road with home fans after the match -= not a Derby and not a rivalry Easy trip home You are a tit aren't you! Do you think any Northampton care about you? Enough to permanently scour our forum, evidently.
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Post by bigcrompy on Mar 26, 2017 0:02:00 GMT
We need a new left half of the defence, plain and simple. Dunkley and a winger won't cut it if we want to go for the playoffs next season. We need a mobile left back and a naturally left sided centre back to compliment Nelson, who is absolutely our finest defender. (whilst I agree with absolutely everything else you've said) there is very little value in aspiring to be in a 1-in-4 lottery...we should set our sights on automatic promotion or nothing at all. i.e. third place and out in the play-off semi-final may represent progress from where we are now, but still would be no more "successful" than finishing tenth. Can't be satisfied with "going for the playoffs".
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Post by scotchegg on Mar 26, 2017 0:11:52 GMT
We need a new left half of the defence, plain and simple. Dunkley and a winger won't cut it if we want to go for the playoffs next season. We need a mobile left back and a naturally left sided centre back to compliment Nelson, who is absolutely our finest defender. (whilst I agree with absolutely everything else you've said) there is very little value in aspiring to be in a 1-in-4 lottery...we should set our sights on automatic promotion or nothing at all. i.e. third place and out in the play-off semi-final may represent progress from where we are now, but still would be no more "successful" than finishing tenth. Can't be satisfied with "going for the playoffs". I get your point, but it is about progression. This year the target would probably have been for mid table, but hopefully top 6 at a push. Next year should be top 6 but hopefully automatic promotion.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Mar 26, 2017 1:01:04 GMT
We need a new left half of the defence, plain and simple. Dunkley and a winger won't cut it if we want to go for the playoffs next season. We need a mobile left back and a naturally left sided centre back to compliment Nelson, who is absolutely our finest defender. (whilst I agree with absolutely everything else you've said) there is very little value in aspiring to be in a 1-in-4 lottery...we should set our sights on automatic promotion or nothing at all. i.e. third place and out in the play-off semi-final may represent progress from where we are now, but still would be no more "successful" than finishing tenth. Can't be satisfied with "going for the playoffs". Of course, and I'm not saying automatic promotion shouldn't be the aim, but in terms of tangible progress "going for the playoffs" is something I'm using as a benchmark because at least we'd have a shot of achieving something if that's where we ended up. At least it would (in all likelihood) be a marked step forward from this season where it appears anywhere from 8-12 is where we'll end up. But we won't even get that if we don't sort the left back and left sided centre half problems over the summer. I suppose I'm just viewing it as "top six" and if that happens to become "top two" within that then happy days.
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Post by makv on Mar 26, 2017 1:26:40 GMT
Rubbish result. Cov picking up form. Could be a disappointing end to the season. Welcome back!!!
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Post by makv on Mar 26, 2017 2:23:53 GMT
Dunks looks completely shattered. Has he played every match this season? I rate him usually and he's come a long way from Kidderminster Harriers, but he looks knackered, physically and mentally. MApp said that he's dwelling on mistakes and that sounds like the sort of thing you do when you're tired. Pretty sure Dunks has played more minutes than anyone other than Eastwood.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 26, 2017 3:43:26 GMT
Terrible pitch to play on today in their greenhouse of a ground. I felt first half we looked slightly jaded all round, passes going astray and nhampton never allowed any time for us to get a foot on the ball. Sercs put himself about and Ruffels had some nice touches. Dunks looked like a man who has strangely lost confidence for some reason, and his decision making seemed a bit haphazard. He was not all bad but there were a few glaring mistakes that i thought he had mostly purged from his play. Edwards was pretty good today but johnson on the left side, Until he moved into midfield second half, was quite reluctant to get forward. Maybe that was part of the gameplan, get forward when switched to midfield. It just seemed that he had the brakes on at left back. Their pen was nailed on from where i was stood, but the save from Easty was just great. The late on chance though that fell to Kane Hemmings really should have been put away, and the three points could easily have been ours. But it is rare to see an opposition goalie timewasting, at home with ten minutes to go... Sad to see really! Ps. I think that our supporters may have got him a little rattled as he clearly looked miffed as he trudged off! Mapp stayed before game he was jealous of ntfc pitch. You are talking nonsense.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 26, 2017 3:46:23 GMT
Rubbish result. Cov picking up form. Could be a disappointing end to the season. Welcome back!!! An away point is a good result. You are right about cov city improving under mark robins. Remember what brfc did to us at home. Next Sunday is definitely not a guaranteed victory.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 26, 2017 3:50:55 GMT
(whilst I agree with absolutely everything else you've said) there is very little value in aspiring to be in a 1-in-4 lottery...we should set our sights on automatic promotion or nothing at all. i.e. third place and out in the play-off semi-final may represent progress from where we are now, but still would be no more "successful" than finishing tenth. Can't be satisfied with "going for the playoffs". Of course, and I'm not saying automatic promotion shouldn't be the aim, but in terms of tangible progress "going for the playoffs" is something I'm using as a benchmark because at least we'd have a shot of achieving something if that's where we ended up. At least it would (in all likelihood) be a marked step forward from this season where it appears anywhere from 8-12 is where we'll end up. But we won't even get that if we don't sort the left back and left sided centre half problems over the summer. I suppose I'm just viewing it as "top six" and if that happens to become "top two" within that then happy days. Without significant investment promotion would be a financial disaster. Oufc are not ready to compete in championship. Top 10 finish with de/mapp staying on with new investment/ backers, leaving de to run the club, with a win in the check a tool cup, will be a most excellent season, imho.
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Post by rickyotto on Mar 26, 2017 4:24:26 GMT
My view on the game - Walking into ground along with Northampton fans = not a Derby and not a rivalry We played football they didn't Sprinklers sorry sprinkler pmsl - tinpot Eastwood πππ Playing for a draw, timewasting at 0-0 with 10 minutes to go at home - embarrassing Home side Singing 3 songs all day 2 of which were about last season - embarrassing Walking along the road with home fans after the match -= not a Derby and not a rivalry Easy trip home You are a tit aren't you! Do you think any Northampton care about you? No Oxford to be seen around town or Weedon Rd all day. Still, console yourself that you don't care about us! Maybe he got confused by the poll on your website asking whether we were your biggest rival ? πππππππ
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Post by londonroader on Mar 26, 2017 5:58:03 GMT
Of course, and I'm not saying automatic promotion shouldn't be the aim, but in terms of tangible progress "going for the playoffs" is something I'm using as a benchmark because at least we'd have a shot of achieving something if that's where we ended up. At least it would (in all likelihood) be a marked step forward from this season where it appears anywhere from 8-12 is where we'll end up. But we won't even get that if we don't sort the left back and left sided centre half problems over the summer. I suppose I'm just viewing it as "top six" and if that happens to become "top two" within that then happy days. Without significant investment promotion would be a financial disaster. Oufc are not ready to compete in championship. Top 10 finish with de/mapp staying on with new investment/ backers, leaving de to run the club, with a win in the check a tool cup, will be a most excellent season, imho. Promotion wouldn't be a financial disaster as you get plenty of financial benifits for going up, the problems come if you try to compete in the top half of the championship and that's where the serious money needs to be involved, going up and getting relegated won't be bad if we never really chucked money at it, the fans would certainly enjoy the experience. We can't leave DE to run the club as he hasn't got the money to take us forward, his words. Promotion for a fan is everything maybe the thought of relegation and how much money it might cost to an owner to try and stay in that division is not palatable.
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Post by saddletramp on Mar 26, 2017 6:29:15 GMT
If you thought Dunkley wasn't poor today, and if you think he's a player who can play every single week and get you promoted from League One, you need to stop drinking. He wasn't okay today, and although he IS largely okay with some games where he's decent, okay and decent won't get you out of this league. He's a third choice centre half and that's fine - I'm quite fond of the bloke because he cares and he tries hard, but that IS what he is. Curtis Nelson is the benchmark you need to match to progress. We need another defender of similar quality to him, who is naturally left sided. Baffled that some people cling on to sentiment so dearly. We should always look to improve. Hal Robson-Kanu may have performed the most lucrative cruyff turn in history last summer but seemingly Dunks can't be far off in terms of one piece of skill that takes you miles. Ever since he did that at Wembley far too many people think he's a god. Don't think it's anything to do with the cruyff. He's immense in the air and has had many good games for us including vs. higher league opposition. You're right he is a liability too often and maybe he should only be 3rd choice at the moment, but he's only just turned 25 & considering the progress he's already made since being with us I don't see why he couldn't become an excellent asset over the next few years. I dont get this "he's only 25" and "the progress he has made" The guy had his apprenticeship at Crewe,probably the best academy in lower league football. He was signed from Kidderminster a CONFERENCE side,the way people go on he was playing North Berks football before he joined us. Progress ? He has been with us since 2014 and he makes the same mistakes now that he did then. As for ONLY 25,Michael Keane made his debut for England this week aged 24. Curtis Nelson is even younger. I am not a massive fan of Chey,but i dont think he is as bad as some people think,basically you get what it says on the tin,a trier who is a good player,but has his limitations. At the end of the day,we are a mid table league 1 team,he is IMO a mid table league 1 player. The trouble is,he happens to play for Oxford,a club whose fans,who after you play one good game,have you down as the next John Terry. "We should be trying our hardest to get him tied down here. He has proved that he is a very good central defender. Players like him do not come cheap. He is definitely one that we can sell on for a big profit" "Could hack it in the Championship. Easily. Needs to be offered an improved contract. A key man in our rise".
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Post by bigronaldo on Mar 26, 2017 7:28:21 GMT
What i will say is, that any player who plays at the back has a mistake in them. Its the very nature of the role. Mistakes at the back usually cost goals and you are all right, when you say that he has made some costly errors, and yet, despite all that, Mapp keeps playing him. Even Curtis Nelson is prone to the odd off day and he is, i think, our best defender. Chey looked to me to be pretty p*ssed off about his game last week on yellow player and another indifferent performance yesterday shows that he has let these things get to him a little. But i tire of the slagging off that the fella gets. Support the shirt. Cos all the moaning only feeds his lack of confidence. Some of us seem to forget all the good work that the lad does in favour of his mistakes. Sad really.
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 26, 2017 7:36:50 GMT
What i will say is, that any player who plays at the back has a mistake in them. Its the very nature of the role. Mistakes at the back usually cost goals and you are all right, when you say that he has made some costly errors, and yet, despite all that, Mapp keeps playing him. Even Curtis Nelson is prone to the odd off day and he is, i think, our best defender. Chey looked to me to be pretty p*ssed off about his game last week on yellow player and another indifferent performance yesterday shows that he has let these things get to him a little. But i tire of the slagging off that the fella gets. Support the shirt. Cos all the moaning only feeds his lack of confidence. Some of us seem to forget all the good work that the lad does in favour of his mistakes. Sad really. That is just the nature of football and football forums. How do u think it's any different to the lack of confidence that Taylor must have got from the constant moaning and abuse. For me it's not about having a go at him, he is what he is, I just think he needs more time to learn the aspect of the game that's letting him down. At the min I think he's capable of being a good l2 defender, or similar to ruffles, capable of being backup and holding his own when needed in different types of games or covering injuries. But to seriously progress next season as a club I think he either needs to be 3rd choice or have some serious work on his distribution and positioning between now and pre season
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Post by lambchop on Mar 26, 2017 7:37:48 GMT
My view on the game - Walking into ground along with Northampton fans = not a Derby and not a rivalry We played football they didn't Sprinklers sorry sprinkler pmsl - tinpot Eastwood πππ Playing for a draw, timewasting at 0-0 with 10 minutes to go at home - embarrassing Home side Singing 3 songs all day 2 of which were about last season - embarrassing Walking along the road with home fans after the match -= not a Derby and not a rivalry Easy trip home You are a tit aren't you! Do you think any Northampton care about you? No Oxford to be seen around town or Weedon Rd all day. Still, console yourself that you don't care about us! You obviously do ππππππ
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Post by lambchop on Mar 26, 2017 7:39:48 GMT
You are a tit aren't you! Do you think any Northampton care about you? No Oxford to be seen around town or Weedon Rd all day. Still, console yourself that you don't care about us! Maybe he got confused by the poll on your website asking whether we were your biggest rival ? πππππππ ππππππ
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Post by uptheus on Mar 26, 2017 7:43:46 GMT
Terrible pitch to play on today in their greenhouse of a ground. I felt first half we looked slightly jaded all round, passes going astray and nhampton never allowed any time for us to get a foot on the ball. Sercs put himself about and Ruffels had some nice touches. Dunks looked like a man who has strangely lost confidence for some reason, and his decision making seemed a bit haphazard. He was not all bad but there were a few glaring mistakes that i thought he had mostly purged from his play. Edwards was pretty good today but johnson on the left side, Until he moved into midfield second half, was quite reluctant to get forward. Maybe that was part of the gameplan, get forward when switched to midfield. It just seemed that he had the brakes on at left back. Their pen was nailed on from where i was stood, but the save from Easty was just great. The late on chance though that fell to Kane Hemmings really should have been put away, and the three points could easily have been ours. But it is rare to see an opposition goalie timewasting, at home with ten minutes to go... Sad to see really! Ps. I think that our supporters may have got him a little rattled as he clearly looked miffed as he trudged off! Mapp stayed before game he was jealous of ntfc pitch. You are talking nonsense. The pitch looked good and is obviously better than ours at the moment, but MApp did say the pitch was pretty dry so didn't allow the players to zip the passes together which is our game. Also, at times the pitch looked a bit bobbly!, but no excuse we just weren't at the races for most of the game, second half yeah, but I felt Northampton were there for the taking and for 15-20mins of the 2nd half your could see we were the better footballing team, but we all knew that anyway.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 26, 2017 7:48:15 GMT
Don't think it's anything to do with the cruyff. He's immense in the air and has had many good games for us including vs. higher league opposition. You're right he is a liability too often and maybe he should only be 3rd choice at the moment, but he's only just turned 25 & considering the progress he's already made since being with us I don't see why he couldn't become an excellent asset over the next few years. I dont get this "he's only 25" and "the progress he has made" The guy had his apprenticeship at Crewe,probably the best academy in lower league football. He was signed from Kidderminster a CONFERENCE side,the way people go on he was playing North Berks football before he joined us. Progress ? He has been with us since 2014 and he makes the same mistakes now that he did then. As for ONLY 25,Michael Keane made his debut for England this week aged 24. Curtis Nelson is even younger. I am not a massive fan of Chey,but i dont think he is as bad as some people think,basically you get what it says on the tin,a trier who is a good player,but has his limitations. At the end of the day,we are a mid table league 1 team,he is IMO a mid table league 1 player. The trouble is,he happens to play for Oxford,a club whose fans,who after you play one good game,have you down as the next John Terry. "We should be trying our hardest to get him tied down here. He has proved that he is a very good central defender. Players like him do not come cheap. He is definitely one that we can sell on for a big profit" "Could hack it in the Championship. Easily. Needs to be offered an improved contract. A key man in our rise". Sorry, but he's definitely not Championship level.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 26, 2017 7:50:04 GMT
Without significant investment promotion would be a financial disaster. Oufc are not ready to compete in championship. Top 10 finish with de/mapp staying on with new investment/ backers, leaving de to run the club, with a win in the check a tool cup, will be a most excellent season, imho. Promotion wouldn't be a financial disaster as you get plenty of financial benifits for going up, the problems come if you try to compete in the top half of the championship and that's where the serious money needs to be involved, going up and getting relegated won't be bad if we never really chucked money at it, the fans would certainly enjoy the experience. We can't leave DE to run the club as he hasn't got the money to take us forward, his words. Promotion for a fan is everything maybe the thought of relegation and how much money it might cost to an owner to try and stay in that division is not palatable. Good points. Ihmo prefect solution is a big backer who will take the club to the next level, top half of championship keeping DE as club chairman/md to run the oufc ltd, alongside current management team. Listening to radox that is Mr Eales preferred scenario. Maybe not possible. I have read on here Newcastle have a playing budget of 70m, brightons owner puts in 2m a month and Brentford lost a small fortune trying to compete. Still nice problem to worry about.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 26, 2017 7:51:38 GMT
Mapp stayed before game he was jealous of ntfc pitch. You are talking nonsense. The pitch looked good and is obviously better than ours at the moment, but MApp did say the pitch was pretty dry so didn't allow the players to zip the passes together which is our game. Also, at times the pitch looked a bit bobbly!, but no excuse we just weren't at the races for most of the game, second half yeah, but I felt Northampton were there for the taking and for 15-20mins of the 2nd half your could see we were the better footballing team, but we all knew that anyway. Under mapp we are always going to struggle vs. Long ball teams it appears. Oh well. At least its not 12/13.
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 26, 2017 7:52:17 GMT
Promotion wouldn't be a financial disaster as you get plenty of financial benifits for going up, the problems come if you try to compete in the top half of the championship and that's where the serious money needs to be involved, going up and getting relegated won't be bad if we never really chucked money at it, the fans would certainly enjoy the experience. We can't leave DE to run the club as he hasn't got the money to take us forward, his words. Promotion for a fan is everything maybe the thought of relegation and how much money it might cost to an owner to try and stay in that division is not palatable. Good points. Ihmo prefect solution is a big backer who will take the club to the next level, top half of championship keeping DE as club chairman/md to run the oufc ltd, alongside current management team. Listening to radox that is Mr Eales preferred scenario. Maybe not possible. I have read on here Newcastle have a playing budget of 70m, brightons owner puts in 2m a month and Brentford lost a small fortune trying to compete. Still nice problem to worry about. That's my view. What did Darryl say exactly I missed the pre match build up
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Post by manorlounger on Mar 26, 2017 9:44:05 GMT
Both Brighton and Newcastle employ the same approach, get to the Premiership at any cost. The returns for achieving that goal are more than commensurate with the cost of getting there. The difference is in having the ability and backing to spend in that magnitude and where we are. DE does not have pockets big enough, he knows this, and has said as much.
Going up only to come back down is not acceptable to ambitious men and therefore the search for more backing goes on.
Does this mean new ownership? Very likely in my book but not exclusive. There may well be finance out there that would leave the current set up in place. I would just hope that we are an attractive enough proposition to warrant the substantial investment required.
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Post by nottsyellow on Mar 26, 2017 9:47:07 GMT
Both Brighton and Newcastle employ the same approach, get to the Premiership at any cost. The returns for achieving that goal are more than commensurate with the cost of getting there. The difference is in having the ability and backing to spend in that magnitude and where we are. DE does not have pockets big enough, he knows this, and has said as much. Going up only to come back down is not acceptable to ambitious men and therefore the search for more backing goes on. Does this mean new ownership? Very likely in my book but not exclusive. There may well be finance out there that would leave the current set up in place. I would just hope that we are an attractive enough proposition to warrant the substantial investment required. I have just posted a thread on Premiership/Football League - Championship Financials The accounts at Companies House show Brighton Β£91M in debt in an attempt to get to the Premiership. Last year loss of Β£23M. Whereas Newcastle have net assets of Β£16M, turnover of Β£128M with profit of Β£36M whilst there.
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Post by nottsyellow on Mar 26, 2017 9:54:15 GMT
Promotion wouldn't be a financial disaster as you get plenty of financial benifits for going up, the problems come if you try to compete in the top half of the championship and that's where the serious money needs to be involved, going up and getting relegated won't be bad if we never really chucked money at it, the fans would certainly enjoy the experience. We can't leave DE to run the club as he hasn't got the money to take us forward, his words. Promotion for a fan is everything maybe the thought of relegation and how much money it might cost to an owner to try and stay in that division is not palatable. Good points. Ihmo prefect solution is a big backer who will take the club to the next level, top half of championship keeping DE as club chairman/md to run the oufc ltd, alongside current management team. Listening to radox that is Mr Eales preferred scenario. Maybe not possible. I have read on here Newcastle have a playing budget of 70m, brightons owner puts in 2m a month and Brentford lost a small fortune trying to compete. Still nice problem to worry about. Just checked at Companies House, Brentford lost Β£14M (on turnover of Β£9M) in the season 2014/15.
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