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Post by uptheus on Jan 15, 2017 9:08:08 GMT
Poor game yesterday. Thought Scarz should have been brought back into the starting line up, and Hemmings. Would have probably rested Hall before the game and dropped Taylor, but on hind sight Hall was one of our better players which I didn't expect and I suppose wasn't hard on reflection.
As many have said before, we do tend to struggle with these types of teams, especially ones that have a big target man ( Elliott), so I wonder if it's worth getting one of the central midfielders to sit just in front of the back two when it's like that? e.g. either 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-2 bringing in Rothwell?
Anyway, going to be a difficult few weeks now with the games we've got coming up, so hope we can recruit soon with players that can hit the ground running (not literally though!) rather than wait until the end of the transfer window.
Oh, and one thing that's starting to get annoying is the players post match interviews. My god can they not have their own opinion rather than bleat out the lines that MApp has just said/told them in the dressing room.
And who was supposed to be marking their 22 for the second goal?
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jan 15, 2017 9:12:59 GMT
2 defeats in how many games and people want Wilder back?
We lost to a team who get in your faces and bully you. I sort of expected us to slip up in this match due to how Wimbledon play and is having quite a young inexperienced team.
With that said I'll let the few people on this thread carry on throwing their toys out the pram and lusting over Chris Wilder.
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Post by uptheus on Jan 15, 2017 9:24:49 GMT
2 defeats in how many games and people want Wilder back? We lost to a team who get in your faces and bully you. I sort of expected us to slip up in this match due to how Wimbledon play and is having quite a young inexperienced team. With that said I'll let the few people on this thread carry on throwing their toys out the pram and lusting over Chris Wilder. Wouldn't want him back in a month of Sunday's.
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Post by yellows1 on Jan 15, 2017 9:48:41 GMT
2 defeats in how many games and people want Wilder back? We lost to a team who get in your faces and bully you. I sort of expected us to slip up in this match due to how Wimbledon play and is having quite a young inexperienced team. With that said I'll let the few people on this thread carry on throwing their toys out the pram and lusting over Chris Wilder. Wouldn't want him back in a month of Sunday's. Why? just wondered, he's a good manager, just saying
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Post by uptheus on Jan 15, 2017 9:54:14 GMT
Wouldn't want him back in a month of Sunday's. Why? just wondered, he's a good manager, just saying His attitude towards our fans. Our attitude towards him. It never seems to work the second time (they say never go back). Oh, and MApp's doing a fairly good job at the moment.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 15, 2017 9:59:25 GMT
You would of thought it a bit wet for a spot of fishing this morning
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Post by itsoneofthem on Jan 15, 2017 10:00:55 GMT
We were always going to need a strong set of officials to get something out of the game yesterday, but of course that didn't happen. Picking up the same number of yellows as Wimbledon was nearly as laughable as the timewasting that their keeper got away with - not just with goal kicks, but when he had the ball in his hands. Whatever happened to that seven second rule? The other limiting factor was the bobbly pitch which severely limited the impact that Maguire and Johnson could have. Several times Maguire twisted away from a defender only to see the ball hold up or divert away from its natural path, allowing the defender to get back goal side. I'd guess this is what prevented Johnson from making his normal array of attacks with the ball, but at 6ft2 I could only just make out the tops of heads when we were up that left hand side in the first half. At least next weeks opponents Rochdale are a footballing side, so I've no doubt it will be a better spectacle. They've won their last 10 league matches at home so it's going to be a tough place to go to for different reasons. There's no reason to panic about not having the personnel or set up to battle with teams who play Stone Age football, from what I've seen this season it's probably only Oldham and maybe Northampton that we still have to play who will provide that sort of match again. I'll made a mental note to avoid future trips to Wimbledon, good day out aside from anything to do with the football.
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Post by concretebob on Jan 15, 2017 14:02:51 GMT
Why? just wondered, he's a good manager, just saying His attitude towards our fans. Our attitude towards him. It never seems to work the second time (they say never go back). Oh, and MApp's doing a fairly good job at the moment. I have no idea why people are entertaining this? Appleton i believe will prove himself to be a better manager in the coming years. Much rather have MApp here than Ol' Chippy.
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Post by m on Jan 15, 2017 14:22:14 GMT
I have to say that I find people whining about Wimbledons playing style almost as irritating as our teams inability to play against it.
Again.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:23:53 GMT
interesting. we've spent a million on fees for players, possibly more. what have sheff u spent on transfers? scunthorpe? i don't know. and i've asked before. but i'd be very, very surprised if there were more than 5 clubs who had spent more. personally, having spent that amount i'm not content with mid-table mediocrity. i expected a strong challenge for the play-offs. Sheffield United's wage bill is around 6 million. No need to spend big on transfer fees! expecting plat-offs is not on mate...mapps had to rebuild the spine of the team, its going to take time for his 16/17 team to bed in, i am confident 17/18 will be a play off season, if not auto promotion, in mapp i trust
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:31:50 GMT
Rochdale play excellent football and I am confident of a much better performance and I trust result.
It would be great if mapp had a squad deep enough to counter "industrial" teams, but he doesnt.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:35:31 GMT
CW did an excellent job lifting us from bottom of conference to top of L2. Mapp has continued that progress. I confident with financial backing mapp can lead us back to Championship where I feel we belong.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:37:25 GMT
The main problem is that Appleton has assembled a squad of skillful lightweights. Get up against physically strong sides like this and they get blown away. I fear it's going to happen a lot more in the second half of the season. which remaining teams do you think we will get out "done" by?
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Post by bigfella72 on Jan 15, 2017 14:43:09 GMT
The main problem is that Appleton has assembled a squad of skillful lightweights. Get up against physically strong sides like this and they get blown away. I fear it's going to happen a lot more in the second half of the season. which remaining teams do you think we will get out "done" by? Good point! There certainly aren't as many Wimbledon type teams in this division as last!
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:43:33 GMT
Whatever happened to ground grading? Kingsmeadow shouldn't have been allowed in league two let alone league one! You are lucky you never went in the home end, it was like being stuck in the middle of a meeting of the Women's Institute, with dash of middle class Felicity Kendall.
It was so non league that their subs warming up had to be allowed around the back of the stand to go to the toilet, and no-one batted an eye lid.
you football league SNOB, er didnt OUFC start out as a non-league club? i personally enjoy a day out @ north leigh, oxford city and didcot = real football
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:47:09 GMT
has the mapp love in ended? strange that CW is doing so well @ sheff utd, when oufc fans bombed in out, still dont understand mapps comments about we being better than ntfc in 15/16, only stat that mattered was points end of season... Were you at Rotherham last week? You should have seen the reception he got. cudnt make it... why is forum SO anti after an expected difficult game?
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:48:19 GMT
has the mapp love in ended? strange that CW is doing so well @ sheff utd, when oufc fans bombed in out, still dont understand mapps comments about we being better than ntfc in 15/16, only stat that mattered was points end of season... Did Oxford fans bomb Wilder out? No. Are Oxford fans anti Appleton now? No. I felt that the relationship between CW and us was strained at times
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Jan 15, 2017 14:50:59 GMT
Were you at Rotherham last week? You should have seen the reception he got. Sssssshhhhhhhh nope i love mapps arms/chest and shoes but south yorkshire was too far a trip, at home i am SSL, so i get a close up of that hunk of northern chunk either other week :-)
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Post by yellowfever1 on Jan 16, 2017 3:26:46 GMT
Just watching the highlights. Did Tyler Roberts sign for Wimbledon on loan? It looks just like him playing up front for them.
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Post by milburn on Jan 16, 2017 5:12:11 GMT
For what it's worth, we've struggled against 'industrial' type teams for years - even under wilder
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Post by unification on Jan 16, 2017 10:33:10 GMT
Never seen so much hyperbole in one match day thread before – although maybe that sentence just added to it. Love letters to CW because we lost to Wimbledon, ‘worst timewasting’ (no), ‘worst officials’ (no – a lot of decisions went our way second half), ‘worst pitch’ (no), bemoaning Wimbledon’s physical style (they bend but didn’t break the rules on this occasion), utter panic that we lost to an industrious and physical side despite more-or-less taking six points off them every season we’ve played them up to this point. I wouldn’t want to watch AFC Wimbledon every week, granted, but the hysteria, hand-wringing and finger-pointing at officials, Neil Ardley, the pitch, the crap away stand and their physical tactics is pathetic. We lost and we were to blame for it. Our passing was rubbish because Wimbledon pressed hard, our zonal marking at corners was disastrous (Kelly was free for 30 seconds to bury that header) so MApp and co need to learn from that, we mustered a pitiful number of chances on goal, Ryan Taylor took an hour to warm up and even then he still doesn’t look robust enough to fully hold the line, too many players had off days and we left too many of our more physical players who could have gone toe-to-toe with Wimbledon’s lot on the bench. An arse of a result and performance. Let’s move on from it and accept it was a bad day well won by Wimbledon and lost by us. No other factors involved.
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Post by grenobleroad on Jan 16, 2017 10:51:46 GMT
For me blaming the style of play of the opposition team for defeat is the easy way out.
We have regularly come unstuck against physical teams and its becoming frustrating now as we are already using it as an excuse before we play said teams. It's as embarrassing as when opposition give the 'Oxford have a bigger budget' excuse.
You fight fire with fire. We have a team of talented footballers, that's the hard part! Some grit, determination and fire in the belly and you go for them. You go into every opportunity on the pitch like its the last thing you will do, you show the opposition who is boss, put them on the back foot.
Once that battles won then the game is yours.
Couldn't care less about different formations or players for these games, if they want to be top players they have to be willing to fight for their place on the pitch in every game.
Mapp needs to lead them. The greatest teams in football have all played good football but more importantly none of them were soft touch's.
Roll up your sleeves and get on with it.
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Post by malcolmsmoustache on Jan 16, 2017 11:09:26 GMT
A bit of balance is needed here. I was there, and from what I could see ( at times not that much!) you had two decent L1 teams, who have very different approaches AFCW are not 'crap' but they are very direct/aggressive, and we didn't cope with it well We are a decent footballing team, but need to "mix it" when we face teams like AFCW Ledson will be a good player, but he is only 19, and we need an really good, experienced L1 level midfielder to play alongside Lundstram Hemings goals: game ratio is actually not bad at all, but he desperately needs a proper partner up front And it's not Taylor. I don't care how well he holds the ball up, he doesn't offer any sort of goal threat, as he isn't quick enough. If we had Tom Elliott we would be sniffing around the top eight. We will be mid-table this season, and with a couple of additions, we will do very well next season And after all the rubbish we have seen over much of the last 15 years, is that really such a bad place to be?!
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Post by ttg17 on Jan 17, 2017 22:00:47 GMT
Sutton have just won at wimbledon lol
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Post by osleroad on Jan 17, 2017 22:15:11 GMT
Extremely rich coming from AFC fan complaining now about weak ref tonight...karma!
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Post by makv on Jan 17, 2017 23:53:50 GMT
Sutton have just won at wimbledon lol And Elliott scored lol
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Post by concretebob on Jan 18, 2017 8:58:47 GMT
Extremely rich coming from AFC fan complaining now about weak ref tonight...karma! Was he disrupting their free flowing football?
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