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Post by harrycarry on Sept 17, 2016 20:59:19 GMT
I'm no saint and I don't over protect daughter of 9, but she had a lesson in foul language today. I don't mind the F's so much, but please can we omit the C's if you are reading this!
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Post by harrycarry on Sept 17, 2016 20:59:48 GMT
I'm no saint and I don't over protect daughter of 9, but she had a lesson in foul language today. I don't mind the F's so much, but please can we omit the C's if you are reading this!
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Post by makv on Sept 17, 2016 21:19:53 GMT
I'm no saint and I don't over protect daughter of 9, but she had a lesson in foul language today. I don't mind the F's so much, but please can we omit the C's if you are reading this! Yes. Some pretty rough language directed from the lower tier concourse towards our own fans. Lots of families with small kids, who had no choice of seats, unlike at home. A bit embarrassing, TBH.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 17, 2016 21:27:16 GMT
There was some choice language today, but if kids don't know what it is, they don't tend to notice.
Both sides had decent spells in the game. Agard's pace was a worry but his lack of end product shows why he is in L1. I can see why they went down last year - they lacked on the pitch and tactically. Not sure why they are hanging onto Karl Robinson as a manager. Talks a fine game, but playing long balls up to a bunch of smurfs is pretty dense. A decent manager would push the Dons on.
The Ref let a lot of studs up challenges go unpunished (I thought these were fouls nowadays), but gave a lot of taps, fall over, free kick. Sercombe got mullered and it wasn't even a free kick. At one point, I was wondering if we'd ever get a free kick.
A nice stadium, but more soulless than the Kas Stad in the Conference years.
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Post by Marked Ox on Sept 17, 2016 23:02:02 GMT
I'm no saint and I don't over protect daughter of 9, but she had a lesson in foul language today. I don't mind the F's so much, but please can we omit the C's if you are reading this! Genuine question, why don't you mind the F's but mind the C's? Both are considered the harsher end of the swearing scale.
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Post by duckyellow on Sept 17, 2016 23:04:20 GMT
Was at the game today and thought for a 0-0 it was an entertaining game. Yes both teams could have done a bit better in the final third but a point, well earned, away from home against a team who were in the Championship last season. Slightly disappointing tonight with the negative comments! Get real... It was a good point away from home with lots of endeavour and some good performances. Bring on Charlton.. Cant wait another top Saturday in front of 9,000+ fans. We've come a long way in 2 years...enjoy the ride. We will finish the season between 6-10... If its sixth then who knows. COYY
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Post by Common Villager on Sept 17, 2016 23:25:24 GMT
Pleased with the point, but it wasn't the best game we'll see I'm sure!
I thought the stand out performers for us were Rothwell and Eastwood. The former has really started to become a key member of the team. He's deceptively quick and is able to drive the team up the pitch in much the same manner as Sercombe did last season. The latter continued his excellent start to the season with another assuring performance and goal-preventing stop.
I thought Lundstram was poor once again. It's really hard to place a finger on what exactly is going wrong for him this season, but I hope someone works it out soon. For me he needs to go back to quick passes into feet and then moving back into space. At the moment he seems intent on playing the quarterback role, and teams are finding it all too easy to stop him doing it successfully. Hopefully when Ledsom is brought into the team (which I'm in no doubt he eventually will be) Lundstram will thrive with a bit more freedom.
I thought Dunkley defended reasonable well, but seemed really uncomfortable on the ball. I'm still not convinced on his credentials at left-sided CB, as he is not comfortable playing out with his left foot. That said, three clean sheets in a row for the current CB partnership is very pleasing considering we we couldn't buy one for the first few games.
Taylor continues to split opinion. I think he did a good job linking up the play today and won a good amount in the air, but he's just not a goal threat at all. Which, when we're playing with just one up front, is s major concern. Perhaps it's time to play Maguire in a more central position?
As I said before, a point is a good outcome. There's a chance it could've been more. I think the two teams were cancelling each other out, and we might have benefitted from a change in formation. But it was a bit of a stick or twist situation for Appleton, and I don't blame him for sticking.
On the whole then, an average away day. Amazing following, but a disappointing atmosphere. That was the quietest we've been for a while. Not helped, I'm sure, but the 'that's my seat' brigade. For as long as I can remember away games have been about 'standing wherever you can find a place'. One guy came about a minute before kick off, forced two lads in front of me to move as they were in his seat, and then moved elsewhere for the second half!
Should we take that many away again can we please do away with the 'that's my seat' stuff. Singers go behind the goal, those that want to sit stick to the sides.
Also, are we really going to go over the swearing thing again? It's football. It happens. Get over it.
Anyway, on to Charlton. Another biggish match and hopefully a big attendance. Let's hope we can continue our excellent home form.
COYY!
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Post by londonroader on Sept 18, 2016 5:27:48 GMT
Sounding like there was a lot of arguing and infighting over the old sit/stand ,sing don't sing or wanting to sit in ur own seat again Day trippers I suppose...
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Post by oxfordyankee on Sept 18, 2016 5:49:29 GMT
Sounding like there was a lot of arguing and infighting over the old sit/stand ,sing don't sing or wanting to sit in ur own seat again Day trippers I suppose... Not day trippers, normal fans who just want watch the match in a fashion that is increasingly deemed unacceptable by 'proper fans'. This problem is going to grow along with the away followings.
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Post by manorlounger on Sept 18, 2016 6:52:09 GMT
On the whole then, an average away day. Amazing following, but a disappointing atmosphere. That was the quietest we've been for a while. Not helped, I'm sure, but the 'that's my seat' brigade. For as long as I can remember away games have been about 'standing wherever you can find a place'. One guy came about a minute before kick off, forced two lads in front of me to move as they were in his seat, and then moved elsewhere for the second half! Should we take that many away again can we please do away with the 'that's my seat' stuff. Singers go behind the goal, those that want to sit stick to the sides. Also, are we really going to go over the swearing thing again? It's football. It happens. Get over it. Two points that I understand but have not been addressed with the understanding or sympathy required. 1. The stewards were doing their best to enforce the allocated seating. This happens a lot and can lead to those who wish to sit ending up amongst those who do not. Better segregation from ticket sales onset is required. The host club should provide seating plans and information to the visiting club on the how they enforce or not, as the case may be. Bristol Rovers for example have two separate areas and this resolves the issue. I take it you are one of the "singers", put yourself in the other persons shoes, they may not wish to be arbitrarily moved to seating unknown or worse, end up sitting in someone else's seat who does not wish to be moved either! The two lads in front of you had, by their actions, forced this chap to move, how do you imagine he felt? 2. With better segregation the problem for younger fans and families with the more colourfull language could also be mitigated. Granted, it is football and you will never prevent folk letting rip at times but at least those who would prefer not to hear might have a chance. We are all fans/supporters and all wish to see the best with goals and wins for our team, let's all get on without silly niggles.
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Post by yellowfever1 on Sept 18, 2016 7:03:34 GMT
I wonder if someone in this crowd is asking the person in front to sit down. If you want to sit down, go to Whetherspoons, order a Carling and cheer on Man Utd
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Post by barbadosyellow on Sept 18, 2016 7:16:24 GMT
My 6 year old granddaughter also had to endure a barrage of fs and cs from the guy in front due to our preference for sitting down and not singing. He was so p*ssed he could barely stand anyway so it gave me a chance to explain the dangers of over consumption of alcohol! In the late 60s I was threatened by a copper with ejection from the London Road for swearing, when no one around me gave a toss, so why can't stewards sort this stuff out today in areas full of kids?
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Post by oxfordyankee on Sept 18, 2016 7:29:44 GMT
I wonder if someone in this crowd is asking the person in front to sit down. If you want to sit down, go to Whetherspoons, order a Carling and cheer on Man Utd And what if you're unable to stand for 90 minutes. I guess you would suggest that those people don't deserve to experience watching their team live?
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Post by oufc28 on Sept 18, 2016 7:50:03 GMT
Every ground nowadays has a disabled section with possibly a better view than some seats. Surely if a person is 'unable' to stand then that would be the way to go when at away games.
I agree that clubs should have better systems in place regarding fans who want to sing and for those who just want to view the match sitting down but a little common sense from the stewards would help too
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Post by holdsteady on Sept 18, 2016 7:51:35 GMT
Putting the away fans in the top tier is a bit strange in this division, they should just fill the bottom one first, it kills the atmosphere in a ground that's far to big for them anyway.
A strange place to have a football ground (I realise we can't really talk), their support seemed to be made up almost completely of families on I am guessing heavily subsidised tickets, it was an interesting experience and it's a nice ground but to sanitised for me, it's Charlies middle class football dream come true but not for me every week.
Decent enough point, obviously we need to start winning away but you also need to draw a few so with hindsight it's an OK result.
Bring on Charlton on Saturday.
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Post by yellowfever1 on Sept 18, 2016 8:09:12 GMT
I wonder if someone in this crowd is asking the person in front to sit down. If you want to sit down, go to Whetherspoons, order a Carling and cheer on Man Utd And what if you're unable to stand for 90 minutes. I guess you would suggest that those people don't deserve to experience watching their team live? Basically, what the poster below you said. I fully support disabled sections for those unable to stand. I also think family sections are a good idea. It would have been good if when purchasing MK Dons tickets, they asked if you were bringing children and then could have put families in roughly the same area. Everyone else should be allowed to stand.
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Post by manorlounger on Sept 18, 2016 8:10:12 GMT
Every ground nowadays has a disabled section with possibly a better view than some seats. Surely if a person is 'unable' to stand then that would be the way to go when at away games. I agree that clubs should have better systems in place regarding fans who want to sing and for those who just want to view the match sitting down but a little common sense from the stewards would help too I, and my wife and hundreds more, are perfectly able to stand but, having paid for a seat and having the preference of using that seat would like to do so! If you want to stand then I have no objections but please, understand the views of others. We have also paid to watch (and see) the game. I am fully in favour of your second comment and would advocate that clubs work together to facilitate the wishes of fans. This is something that needs to be addressed with the desire of some for the return of the standing areas. And, in case you are curious, I spent many years standing in the London Road. I have just reached an age where sitting is more comfortable! It is, sadly, part of the ageing process!
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 18, 2016 8:19:02 GMT
Brilliant so everyone who wants to sit should now be in a disabled area ๐. I love what the ultras and singers do, but there is Definitely an attitude developing of a super fan that is then better than those who wish to sit, leave a little early, or heaven forbid don't sing. We're all there for the same thing, supporting our team. Like manorlounger said try looking at it if you were in the other position.
You've brought a ticket and want to sit in ur seat, crazy idea I know, but if u turned up to get on a plane and had booked 3 seats in a row but someone else was sat in 1 meaning ur group had to split up, would u be happy? Then if u do get in the seat that u have paid for and have every right to be in, you get abused as u wanted to actually sit in.
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Post by oxfordyankee on Sept 18, 2016 8:34:17 GMT
Every ground nowadays has a disabled section with possibly a better view than some seats. Surely if a person is 'unable' to stand then that would be the way to go when at away games. I agree that clubs should have better systems in place regarding fans who want to sing and for those who just want to view the match sitting down but a little common sense from the stewards would help too There's a huge difference between having bad back pain and being disabled. Honestly, it feels like people are asking to sit down on a terrace.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 18, 2016 8:36:29 GMT
Every ground nowadays has a disabled section with possibly a better view than some seats. Surely if a person is 'unable' to stand then that would be the way to go when at away games. I agree that clubs should have better systems in place regarding fans who want to sing and for those who just want to view the match sitting down but a little common sense from the stewards would help too There's a huge difference between having bad back pain and being disabled. Honestly, it feels like people are asking to sit down on a terrace. In all honesty I used to do that in the London rd at half time anyway in my teens ๐
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Post by yellowfever1 on Sept 18, 2016 8:48:36 GMT
Brilliant so everyone who wants to sit should now be in a disabled area ๐. I love what the ultras and singers do, but there is Definitely an attitude developing of a super fan that is then better than those who wish to sit, leave a little early, or heaven forbid don't sing. We're all there for the same thing, supporting our team. Like manorlounger said try looking at it if you were in the other position. You've brought a ticket and want to sit in ur seat, crazy idea I know, but if u turned up to get on a plane and had booked 3 seats in a row but someone else was sat in 1 meaning ur group had to split up, would u be happy? Then if u do get in the seat that u have paid for and have every right to be in, you get abused as u wanted to actually sit in. haha- you raise a good point. We would have to hugely expand the disabled area for that to work. Perhaps a better idea might be an 'ultras' section, where allowing fans to stand is not overtly stated (health and safety) but is implied. Another idea would be to have a drunk section for fans that want to stand but are unable to. I like your airplane idea. There could be a first class section, where some fans can completely recline their seats to a horizontal position if they are feeling a little tired. With regard to seat numbers, I think easyjet etc. used to have a policy of sit where you want. Don't think they do now.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 18, 2016 8:56:46 GMT
And there lies the issue, as some people will always want to sit in their seats. Especially if the have actually chosen them. And even with a sit where u like policy, the singing lot are more likely to be the ones coming in late from the pub, so still may find people who have got there early in "their" seats
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Post by pillock on Sept 18, 2016 10:54:20 GMT
Simple solution. Don't enforce allocated seating. 90% of away games, those who want to sing and stand naturally congregate, as do families and older people who want to sit.
People make their own areas, enforced seating in exact ticket number was the problem yesterday. Simple.
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Post by oxfordyankee on Sept 18, 2016 10:58:14 GMT
Simple solution. Don't enforce allocated seating. 90% of away games, those who want to sing and stand naturally congregate, as do families and older people who want to sit. People make their own areas, enforced seating in exact ticket number was the problem yesterday. Simple. OK. Northampton away last year. Sold out, unenforceable seating. 70+ people had to stand at the sides of the stand because there were no visible seats. Why? People stood and left gaps between them and the person next to them. I was so pleased that my son and I didn't really get to see the match.
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Post by victor1986 on Sept 18, 2016 11:39:20 GMT
How did they count the home attendance today? No way were there 8k home fans there today! Think they've slid over 8k season tickets which automatically count as attendance. Yes Harry, you're right. My nephew is an "occasional" Dons supporter who tells me there are families living in MK, ex londoners, who hold STs at Arsenal, West Ham or Spurs & also have bought one Dons ST just to see any of the bigger teams who may be on - incredible eh? He reckons that there are approx 8500 ST holders there & that yesterday only about 3500 were present - i am sure there were more of us than them!
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Sept 18, 2016 11:41:37 GMT
One problem I saw yesterday (I was on the last row but one of the top tier right behind the goal). People went and sat in their seats with plenty of time to go. Five minutes before kickoff a load of 'lads' turned up, pushed their way into a mixed area (all ages, kids, old people) about five rows in front of me where everyone else was sat and tried to stand - about three to a seat space. Then got mouthy when people asked them to spread out and/or sit down. They were moved on by the stewards.
How about this as a friendly suggestion? If you want to stand with your mates, get into the ground a bit earlier and stake a claim to an area right at the back. That way you can all stand together, and won't block everyone else's view.
Of course another option would be for our club to ask 'Are you a singer?' (Euphemism for 'stander'!) - they sell seats from the back forwards to 'singers', and seats from the front backwards to 'sitters'.
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Post by foley on Sept 18, 2016 12:31:53 GMT
So what was the 'real' crowd yesterday? Nearly 4000 Oxford supporters and what 6-7000 MK supporters? I am convinced that an awful lot of the people who purchased cheap ST's and were presumably counted in the 12,200 crowd had not bothered to turn up? Like being in the Conference taking 40% of the crowd
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Post by Colin B on Sept 18, 2016 15:27:10 GMT
If I had to guess, I'd say the "real" crowd figure was about 8,000. Meaning about 4,000 home fans.
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Post by uptheus on Sept 18, 2016 15:51:21 GMT
I wonder if someone in this crowd is asking the person in front to sit down. If you want to sit down, go to Whetherspoons, order a Carling and cheer on Man Utd I think that chant is translated into "those who want to seat down are f*cking cunts"!!
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Post by uptheus on Sept 18, 2016 15:55:29 GMT
And what if you're unable to stand for 90 minutes. I guess you would suggest that those people don't deserve to experience watching their team live? Basically, what the poster below you said. I fully support disabled sections for those unable to stand. I also think family sections are a good idea. It would have been good if when purchasing MK Dons tickets, they asked if you were bringing children and then could have put families in roughly the same area. Everyone else should be allowed to stand. Like an earlier poster posted, it's generally directly behind the goal that singing and standing supporters tend to go so if you don't/can't stand and don't really want to sing then why not just move slightly further to the sides of this with family members with young children being on the outer side in hope that they won't hear any swearing?
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