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Post by The Fence End on Oct 23, 2014 18:33:20 GMT
Bang at it
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Post by MJB on Oct 23, 2014 18:38:43 GMT
I will always have a residual gratitude for Chris Wilder. He got us out of the hell that is the Conference and he was also responsible for 90 memorable minutes at Wembley. It was a shame it all went pear shaped at the end and the manner of his exit soured the legacy. Pretty much this. What a strange weekend that was when he left. Bizarre when his agent told him to deny having resigned!
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Post by barmyarmy on Oct 23, 2014 19:48:34 GMT
Somebody like Wilder but not Wilder, what do you mean? I mean a good League 2 manager. Wilder, Adams would be two. Wilder is not a good league 2 manager, Adams is. A good league 2 manager would get a team into the play offs with a competitive budget, he had a competitive budget and 4 years to build a team. If you want to put your house on Wilder getting a team promoted with a good budget then I would love to be your bookmaker, he has a good budget this year.
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Post by tonyw on Oct 24, 2014 11:39:50 GMT
'Budgets mean nothing it's the money at your disposal that counts' Er, that is a budget. And Di Canuo is a great example of how money skews and deceives the game. My daughter could have got Swindon promoted with that budget League Two is not the Premiership. Teams don't finish in the order of their budget. Swindon that year were an exception in that they spent vastly more than everyone else. Usually at this level, the differences are much more incremental (apart from right at the bottom) Good managers can, and will, readily outperform their budgets (so Burton, York, Dagenham last year......Keith Hill thinks he did at Rochdale too - www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/content/280468734-%E2%80%98promotion-financial-miracle%E2%80%99-rochdale%E2%80%99s-messiah-keith-hill-rejoices-league-oneBad mangers will underperform them (Hello Northampton, Brizzle Rovers, Pompey). We basically performed almost exactly to our estimated budget in Wilder's era. Our budget was usually somewhere at the bottom of the Top 10, and that's where we finished. The hallmark, for me, of a solid but not exceptional manager. Appleton - we shall see. I will say that he has no real excuses for not getting us in the playoffs this year.
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Post by bacon on Oct 24, 2014 12:24:34 GMT
'Budgets mean nothing it's the money at your disposal that counts' Er, that is a budget. And Di Canuo is a great example of how money skews and deceives the game. My daughter could have got Swindon promoted with that budget League Two is not the Premiership. Teams don't finish in the order of their budget. Swindon that year were an exception in that they spent vastly more than everyone else. Usually at this level, the differences are much more incremental (apart from right at the bottom) Good managers can, and will, readily outperform their budgets (so Burton, York, Dagenham last year......Keith Hill thinks he did at Rochdale too - www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/content/280468734-%E2%80%98promotion-financial-miracle%E2%80%99-rochdale%E2%80%99s-messiah-keith-hill-rejoices-league-oneBad mangers will underperform them (Hello Northampton, Brizzle Rovers, Pompey). We basically performed almost exactly to our estimated budget in Wilder's era. Our budget was usually somewhere at the bottom of the Top 10, and that's where we finished. The hallmark, for me, of a solid but not exceptional manager. Appleton - we shall see. I will say that he has no real excuses for not getting us in the playoffs this year. apart from not having a full pre-season with the club...
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Post by hackneyjack on Oct 24, 2014 12:43:26 GMT
" Saw the team, said we'd get battered...
Wilder is losing the plot...quickly. He got everything wrong tonight.
The starting line up and the changes he made had no logic, it's hard to know where to start.
He's signed a very talented squad of players but at this moment in time he doesn't appear to know what to do with them. And he's starting to spout crap in his interviews. Honeymoon period over." It has a very familiar ring to it me thinks ! Creak Creak... What's that I hear you cry? It's the wheels falling off with the miserable git of a manager.
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Post by tedbundy on Oct 24, 2014 21:29:07 GMT
Interesting That Northampton have loads of injuries....coincidence or is there something wrong with CW's training regime?We heard the "bare bones" excuse a few times over last couple of seasons..They have a lot of very good league 2 players on sidelines...We don't seem to be losing players to hamstring strains and the like this season(touching wood)..Also odd that Nton fans think CW cant organise a team : not one of his failings I would have thought tbh
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 25, 2014 7:36:39 GMT
Interesting That Northampton have loads of injuries....coincidence or is there something wrong with CW's training regime?We heard the "bare bones" excuse a few times over last couple of seasons..They have a lot of very good league 2 players on sidelines...We don't seem to be losing players to hamstring strains and the like this season(touching wood)..Also odd that Nton fans think CW cant organise a team : not one of his failings I would have thought tbh Probably a mixture of training and signing players without a full medical/ knowing they have these issues and hoping it will be ok
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Post by whathesaid on Oct 25, 2014 10:37:52 GMT
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