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Post by East Challow Yellow on Aug 19, 2014 21:50:19 GMT
But we didn't score and we lost, It don't matter how well we play we just not getting the results and we should all start worrying now, What is MAPP's managerial record? Please remind how did Swindon do 3 years ago in there first 6 games? Too many drama queens on this forum Difference being that they were to be bankrolled out of the division.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 19, 2014 21:54:33 GMT
But we didn't score and we lost, It don't matter how well we play we just not getting the results and we should all start worrying now, What is MAPP's managerial record? Please remind how did Swindon do 3 years ago in there first 6 games? Too many drama queens on this forum But look how much money PDC spent to achieve that! They may have started poorly but they spent to get promotion.
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Post by horseman on Aug 19, 2014 21:55:26 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? that's being realist, plenty on here are in lala land expecting us to be challenging straight away it was never going to happen, time will tell but even I would hope come end of August we can get in a 2 top quality players for this league to improve us big time (striker & creative midfielder) if not then we need to start worrying if result keep repeating themselves Cannot believe anyone was seriously thinking we would be challenging straight away or any other time given how we have not addressed the key problem areas.
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Post by yellowjam on Aug 19, 2014 21:57:36 GMT
Please remind how did Swindon do 3 years ago in there first 6 games? Too many drama queens on this forum Difference being that they were to be bankrolled out of the division. That's a fair comment but it amazes me people are judging the manager after 3 f-cking games, get a grip, we will know after 10-12 how things will start to plan out for the season but at this minute not many fans are willing to do that
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 19, 2014 22:04:23 GMT
Difference being that they were to be bankrolled out of the division. That's a fair comment but it amazes me people are judging the manager after 3 f-cking games, get a grip, we will know after 10-12 how things will start to plan out for the season but at this minute not many fans are willing to do that That could be 10-12 f*cking defeats, After 10 -12 games we may still have only the same players no new additions or certainly additions with experience, thin the first three league games have shown we are lacking experience and yes a seasoned goal scorer, They may have already been snapped up. But I am just a 45 year supporter what would I know.
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Post by m on Aug 19, 2014 22:05:34 GMT
I'd assumed that people meant that the team would be gelling more fully by this point, that the youngsters would have gained valuable experience etc. Sort of the inverse to everyone working us out in the last 3 or 4 seasons. Agree that if anyone thinks the team will improve massively as a direct result of the Jan window is a bit barmy. Said youngsters are only here until Januray so we will then have to go through another period of 'jelling' with a new bunch of players (Clarke being the exception). Possibly. We did have Williams for the whole season though.
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Post by scotchegg on Aug 19, 2014 22:10:33 GMT
That's a fair comment but it amazes me people are judging the manager after 3 f-cking games, get a grip, we will know after 10-12 how things will start to plan out for the season but at this minute not many fans are willing to do that That could be 10-12 f*cking defeats, After 10 -12 games we may still have only the same players no new additions or certainly additions with experience, thin the first three league games have shown we are lacking experience and yes a seasoned goal scorer, They may have already been snapped up. But I am just a 45 year supporter what would I know. I'll play this game of making up the future!! We will win the next 9 games giving us 27 points from the first 12 games. We will score a hat full of goals and have the strongest defence in the league. Appleton will be named manager of the month for September and October and the future will look very bright. But then I'm only a supporter of 31 years so what do I know?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 19, 2014 22:18:11 GMT
That could be 10-12 f*cking defeats, After 10 -12 games we may still have only the same players no new additions or certainly additions with experience, thin the first three league games have shown we are lacking experience and yes a seasoned goal scorer, They may have already been snapped up. But I am just a 45 year supporter what would I know. I'll play this game of making up the future!! We will win the next 9 games giving us 27 points from the first 12 games. We will score a hat full of goals and have the strongest defence in the league. Appleton will be named manager of the month for September and October and the future will look very bright. But then I'm only a supporter of 31 years so what do I know? Not a lot judging by some of your previous comments in the past!
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Post by scotchegg on Aug 19, 2014 22:22:22 GMT
Pot and kettle!! At least I'm not miserable for the sake of it and always looking at the worst case scenario! You and others like you drain me!
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 19, 2014 22:27:21 GMT
Drown would probably b better for you mate? you have supported for 31 years so you started supporting during the god times but unfortunately that didn't last too long and our good fortune ha been quite sporadic in the last 20 years screwed by Herd and Kassam, We get new club owners who ( not necessarily their fault) due to the timming of there tenure at OUFC, but surely they must realise what we needed to try and get some success back at OUFC,
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Post by browny on Aug 19, 2014 22:35:50 GMT
Said youngsters are only here until Januray so we will then have to go through another period of 'jelling' with a new bunch of players (Clarke being the exception). Possibly. We did have Williams for the whole season though. But initially signed him until January, so you could look positively and say these guys will be here until the end of the season if they perform
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Post by browny on Aug 19, 2014 22:37:26 GMT
It is quite funny in some ways that 9 months ago when we were top of the league and the entertainment was poor, the talk here was all about playing entertaining football
Well the style of football we are playing is far far more entertaining than last year but suddenly its all about results
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 19, 2014 22:49:07 GMT
It is quite funny in some ways that 9 months ago when we were top of the league and the entertainment was poor, the talk here was all about playing entertaining football Well the style of football we are playing is far far more entertaining than last year but suddenly its all about results Browny people have always said you don't win games by playing fancy football all the time.
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Post by benox on Aug 19, 2014 23:03:27 GMT
It is quite funny in some ways that 9 months ago when we were top of the league and the entertainment was poor, the talk here was all about playing entertaining football Well the style of football we are playing is far far more entertaining than last year but suddenly its all about results I dont think we should get to carried away about the football that we're playing this season. The first 30 minutes against Burton were decent until they got to grips with our formation. We had about 20 minutes against Mansfield where we created a few chances, but other than that I think we've been pretty poor with no cutting edge at all. I wasn't at Bristol City or Morecambe so can't really comment there, but sounds like a similar story tonight. I didn't expect much this season given the summer of change, but I hadn't expected us to be winless from the first 3. Out of those 3 I think only Burton will be amongst it come the end of the season so we've lost to a couple of teams who are probably mid table at best. We need that first win.
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Post by concretebob on Aug 20, 2014 1:37:58 GMT
It is quite funny in some ways that 9 months ago when we were top of the league and the entertainment was poor, the talk here was all about playing entertaining football Well the style of football we are playing is far far more entertaining than last year but suddenly its all about results People like to moan!
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Post by billyox on Aug 20, 2014 4:35:12 GMT
Just to coin a line from many on here last season we are only 6 points from the play offs
Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by bacon on Aug 20, 2014 5:34:10 GMT
Bazzer, you don't half talk some shite sometimes.
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Post by Robin Shater on Aug 20, 2014 7:03:56 GMT
If MAPP can still bring in the right couple of players we should be OK. Who those players are and are they available? I don't know but I have to hope that MAPP does. My main concern at the moment is that the young loanees are not the short term answer. I have no doubt that they will learn by their mistakes and those of their team mates here, but their inexperience and those mistakes may be costly to us. If they learn from those mistakes, they will benefit long term, their parent clubs will benefit long term but OUFC will not. If our youngsters get the chance to play, learn and improve OUFC reap the benefit. If a loanee gets 10 goals or more by Xmas that will be great, but if that happens and we are not in the top 3 or 4, his parent club will recall him and send him out to a league one team. If one of our own youngsters scores 10 (we can dream)by Xmas we can look forward to either more goals or a nice transfer fee with a sell on clause.
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Post by hackneyjack on Aug 20, 2014 7:13:11 GMT
Pot and kettle!! At least I'm not miserable for the sake of it and always looking at the worst case scenario! You and others like you drain me! Could not agree more mate. Even if we were winning, the usual suspects (you know who you are), would looking for the negatives: the owners may pull out, do't like the colour of the physio's boots, the club aren't doing enough to give fans a balanced diet from the food kiosks - ad nauseam... Things arent great, but I prefer to look for the positives, and give things more time. Rather than picking apart our club at every bastard single f*cking opportunity.
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Post by hackneyjack on Aug 20, 2014 7:16:20 GMT
Possibly. We did have Williams for the whole season though. But initially signed him until January, so you could look positively and say these guys will be here until the end of the season if they perform Exactly.
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Worried !
Aug 20, 2014 7:28:39 GMT
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Post by stevegilbert on Aug 20, 2014 7:28:39 GMT
Pot and kettle!! At least I'm not miserable for the sake of it and always looking at the worst case scenario! You and others like you drain me! Could not agree more mate. Even if we were winning, the usual suspects (you know who you are), would looking for the negatives: the owners may pull out, do't like the colour of the physio's boots, the club aren't doing enough to give fans a balanced diet from the food kiosks - ad nauseam... Things arent great, but I prefer to look for the positives, and give things more time. Rather than picking apart our club at every bastard single f*cking opportunity. Well said jack. It amazes me that the people who were moaning about the style of football last year even though we were winning are now banging on about the fact we should forget our new style of football and play direct. It now amuses me coming on here after defeat and seeing how some people react to a few defeats. I know some people in life just have negative personalities but my god our club attracts a lot of them!
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Post by barmyarmy on Aug 20, 2014 7:44:10 GMT
Bazzer, you don't half talk some shite sometimes. Only sometimes.......
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Post by bluealice on Aug 20, 2014 7:52:23 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? Mid table sounds like the promised land.....
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Post by bluealice on Aug 20, 2014 7:53:53 GMT
That could be 10-12 f*cking defeats, After 10 -12 games we may still have only the same players no new additions or certainly additions with experience, thin the first three league games have shown we are lacking experience and yes a seasoned goal scorer, They may have already been snapped up. But I am just a 45 year supporter what would I know. I'll play this game of making up the future!! We will win the next 9 games giving us 27 points from the first 12 games. We will score a hat full of goals and have the strongest defence in the league. Appleton will be named manager of the month for September and October and the future will look very bright. But then I'm only a supporter of 31 years so what do I know? Not a lot!!
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Post by oxfordpete999 on Aug 20, 2014 8:07:27 GMT
Am I worried... well yes......but with what......look at last nights game - their goal was clearly off side - we had 2 good shouts for pens - neither given - they say 'you make your own luck' in football - lets start making........
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Post by myles on Aug 20, 2014 9:01:31 GMT
Am I worried... well yes......but with what......look at last nights game - their goal was clearly off side - we had 2 good shouts for pens - neither given - they say 'you make your own luck' in football - lets start making........ Yes, but despite that we had 64% possession and still had fewer shots on target than Morecambe. We've failed to score from open play in the first three games. That is what concerns me the most.
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Post by Long John Silver on Aug 20, 2014 9:02:02 GMT
From what I have seen and heard so far, I am more optimistic than ever. We are playing very good football, we are looking to get a couple more in before the end of August and strengthening in January. OK the league table looks shite at the mo' but how often have we been top in Nov' / Dec and collapsed. I'd much rather start slow and have a good end to a season.I agree. It's much better to have zero points after three games, than to have 9.
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Post by ianmoore82 on Aug 20, 2014 9:40:03 GMT
There's no way we are one of the 2 worst teams in this league - despite the start .
If, and I mean if, things look no better come the end of October then perhaps a modicum of panic would be justified.
But 3 games?
Come on guys
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Post by horspathyellow on Aug 20, 2014 9:48:12 GMT
We need a win ,any win !!. And the confidence will be back in the team , it is a long time since we have taken 3 points in a league game ,This saturday is vital v Portsmouth a must get something game !!. another home defeat will cause bigger problems than we are facing now . as for enticing better players in the January window utter tosh !!!.. we need to bring experiance in now 2 players who have had highter league football like kitson would have helped on the pitch immensely....
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 20, 2014 10:05:14 GMT
If, and I mean if, things look no better come the end of October then perhaps a modicum of panic would be justified. Really? The end of October will have seen us having played fifteen league games. If things are looking no better than they are now, I think that more than a 'modicum of panic' would be justified, since that would be 0 points gained and 5 goals scored, none from open play!!! As a measure, after fifteen games last season the bottom two clubs had 10 and 11 points respectively, the two that eventually went down had 14 points and we already had 26!
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