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Post by ox9hp18 on Aug 19, 2014 20:11:46 GMT
yes i know its only late august BUT at half time in game 3 we are again losing , i have yet to see anything that is at least encouraging , and am seriously worried that we will really struggle to remain above the dreaded bottom 2 sides , i hope i am wrong BUT as a 35 year long follower , i can recognise fatal short comings ! please somebody remind me of this post if i am wrong
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:16:19 GMT
I know how you feel. I have followed United for forty six years and am getting very concerned as this consistent ineptitude. I can't remember any teams losing their first three games and being promoted. The only saving grace is that we are losing games by the odd goal. I would like to think we will give someone a hiding soon, but I can't see where the goals are going to come from
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Post by trainingcone on Aug 19, 2014 20:20:53 GMT
We are not good enough, bottom half for us this season unless experienced good players are brought in PDQ
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:34:53 GMT
From what I have seen and heard so far, I am more optimistic than ever. We are playing very good football, we are looking to get a couple more in before the end of August and strengthening in January.
OK the league table looks shite at the mo' but how often have we been top in Nov' / Dec and collapsed. I'd much rather start slow and have a good end to a season.
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Aug 19, 2014 20:40:53 GMT
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Post by Southampton Ox on Aug 19, 2014 20:40:53 GMT
A slow start..... You mean we have started.... This is worrying ..
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Post by victor1986 on Aug 19, 2014 20:47:15 GMT
From what I have seen and heard so far, I am more optimistic than ever. We are playing very good football, we are looking to get a couple more in before the end of August and strengthening in January. OK the league table looks shite at the mo' but how often have we been top in Nov' / Dec and collapsed. I'd much rather start slow and have a good end to a season. ",,,very good football" - oh please. We are lightweight in EVERY meaning of the word, with some players who would struggle to get into a conference side. This is not good enough, support will dwindle, income dives & then we all know the ultimate spiral. Apparently, & this IS on very good authority, we last week refused to pay a new player (striker) £2.5K a week - look that's just over 150 extra required on the gate, so if that is the financial mantra prevailing we really are in a pickle.
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Post by yellowjam on Aug 19, 2014 20:49:00 GMT
Didn't relise we could get relegated after 3 games
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Aug 19, 2014 20:50:32 GMT
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Post by yellowjam on Aug 19, 2014 20:50:32 GMT
From what I have seen and heard so far, I am more optimistic than ever. We are playing very good football, we are looking to get a couple more in before the end of August and strengthening in January. OK the league table looks shite at the mo' but how often have we been top in Nov' / Dec and collapsed. I'd much rather start slow and have a good end to a season. ",,,very good football" - oh please. We are lightweight in EVERY meaning of the word, with some players who would struggle to get into a conference side. This is not good enough, support will dwindle, income dives & then we all know the ultimate spiral. Apparently, & this IS on very good authority, we last week refused to pay a new player (striker) £2.5K a week - look that's just over 150 extra required on the gate, so if that is the financial mantra prevailing we really are in a pickle. Name the striker
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Aug 19, 2014 20:56:50 GMT
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Post by stevegilbert on Aug 19, 2014 20:56:50 GMT
From what I have seen and heard so far, I am more optimistic than ever. We are playing very good football, we are looking to get a couple more in before the end of August and strengthening in January. OK the league table looks shite at the mo' but how often have we been top in Nov' / Dec and collapsed. I'd much rather start slow and have a good end to a season. ",,,very good football" - oh please. We are lightweight in EVERY meaning of the word, with some players who would struggle to get into a conference side. This is not good enough, support will dwindle, income dives & then we all know the ultimate spiral. Apparently, & this IS on very good authority, we last week refused to pay a new player (striker) £2.5K a week - look that's just over 150 extra required on the gate, so if that is the financial mantra prevailing we really are in a pickle. Yes forget our wage structure and morale in the rest of the team, lets just pay a player what he wants.
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Aug 19, 2014 21:10:04 GMT
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Post by socrates on Aug 19, 2014 21:10:04 GMT
Surely no one is surprised?
We've lost a raft of senior players and they've been replaced by kids
And we are playing a new system which, in this league, demands players with technique, nous and confidence
Players which cost more than we are prepared to pay
I'm afraid it all just adds more doubt surrounding the new owners. I'm beginning to suspect that they are utter, utter clowns
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Post by kahunaburger on Aug 19, 2014 21:13:39 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes?
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Post by trainingcone on Aug 19, 2014 21:16:00 GMT
Surely no one is surprised? We've lost a raft of senior players and they've been replaced by kids And we are playing a new system which, in this league, demands players with technique, nous and confidence Players which cost more than we are prepared to pay I'm afraid it all just adds more doubt surrounding the new owners. I'm beginning to suspect that they are utter, utter clowns One of the owners nearly screwed up Watford a few seasons ago
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Aug 19, 2014 21:17:19 GMT
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Post by blox21 on Aug 19, 2014 21:17:19 GMT
Surely no one is surprised? We've lost a raft of senior players and they've been replaced by kids And we are playing a new system which, in this league, demands players with technique, nous and confidence Players which cost more than we are prepared to pay I'm afraid it all just adds more doubt surrounding the new owners. I'm beginning to suspect that they are utter, utter clowns One of the owners nearly screwed up Watford a few seasons ago by doing what ?
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Post by bacon on Aug 19, 2014 21:17:59 GMT
Surely no one is surprised? We've lost a raft of senior players and they've been replaced by kids And we are playing a new system which, in this league, demands players with technique, nous and confidence Players which cost more than we are prepared to pay I'm afraid it all just adds more doubt surrounding the new owners. I'm beginning to suspect that they are utter, utter clowns calm down, drama queen
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 21:20:04 GMT
Surely no one is surprised? We've lost a raft of senior players and they've been replaced by kids And we are playing a new system which, in this league, demands players with technique, nous and confidence Players which cost more than we are prepared to pay I'm afraid it all just adds more doubt surrounding the new owners. I'm beginning to suspect that they are utter, utter clowns One of the owners nearly screwed up Watford a few seasons ago And probably earning more per week than the striker mentioned above wanted ?
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Post by horseman on Aug 19, 2014 21:22:20 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? What you mean because they threw a squad together rather than a team capable of competing and after the competition had ensured they were ready.
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Post by trainingcone on Aug 19, 2014 21:24:00 GMT
One of the owners nearly screwed up Watford a few seasons ago by doing what ? Alleged Financial irregularities and buggering up the chances of redeveloping the old main stand, which still stands today condemned. A work mate who is a Watford Fan recently mentioned this to me.
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Post by East Challow Yellow on Aug 19, 2014 21:24:57 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? This myth that things will improve after the January window is misguided in my opinion. In January, players who are with clubs will command higher fees (especially if our need is great due to a poor league position and threat to our FL status). Players who are allowed to leave for nothing will be as a result of them having not played much first team football and thus will take time to gain match sharpness. I am really not convinced that things are going to miraculously improve once January comes around, unfortunately.
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Post by trainingcone on Aug 19, 2014 21:27:26 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? This myth that things will improve after the January window is misguided in my opinion. In January, players who are with clubs will command higher fees (especially if our need is great due to a poor league position and threat to our FL status). Players who are allowed to leave for nothing will be as a result of them having not played much first team football and thus will take time to gain match sharpness. I am really not convinced that things are going to miraculously improve once January comes around, unfortunately. I'm not convinced that things are going to improve from September, unless more players are signed not youngsters!
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Aug 19, 2014 21:27:58 GMT
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Post by blox21 on Aug 19, 2014 21:27:58 GMT
Alleged Financial irregularities and buggering up the chances of redeveloping the old main stand, which still stands today condemned. A work mate who is a Watford Fan recently mentioned this to me. I'm more concerned about the playing side of things !
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Post by m on Aug 19, 2014 21:28:51 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? This myth that things will improve after the January window is misguided in my opinion. In January, players who are with clubs will command higher fees (especially if our need is great due to a poor league position and threat to our FL status). Players who are allowed to leave for nothing will be as a result of them having not played much first team football and thus will take time to gain match sharpness. I am really not convinced that things are going to miraculously improve once January comes around, unfortunately. I'd assumed that people meant that the team would be gelling more fully by this point, that the youngsters would have gained valuable experience etc. Sort of the inverse to everyone working us out in the last 3 or 4 seasons. Agree that if anyone thinks the team will improve massively as a direct result of the Jan window is a bit barmy.
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Post by horseman on Aug 19, 2014 21:30:42 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? This myth that things will improve after the January window is misguided in my opinion. In January, players who are with clubs will command higher fees (especially if our need is great due to a poor league position and threat to our FL status). Players who are allowed to leave for nothing will be as a result of them having not played much first team football and thus will take time to gain match sharpness. I am really not convinced that things are going to miraculously improve once January comes around, unfortunately. Exactly what i said the moment they mentioned their cunning plan. Then we'll hear not to worry strip the dead wood in the summer and start again
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Post by fat bloke on Aug 19, 2014 21:32:27 GMT
Been worried for years even more so since moving to that crap hole at Kassam ...At least their might be 7.5k their saturday with the way we are playing giving 3pts to Pompey...
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Post by bacon on Aug 19, 2014 21:33:54 GMT
Been worried for years even more so since moving to that crap hole at Kassam ...At least their might be 7.5k their saturday with the way we are playing giving 3pts to Pompey... but we played well tonight
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Post by trainingcone on Aug 19, 2014 21:35:34 GMT
Alleged Financial irregularities and buggering up the chances of redeveloping the old main stand, which still stands today condemned. A work mate who is a Watford Fan recently mentioned this to me. I'm more concerned about the playing side of things ! Sure. It's the off the pitch stuff that dictates and affects the on the pitch stuff
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Aug 19, 2014 21:35:48 GMT
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Post by East Challow Yellow on Aug 19, 2014 21:35:48 GMT
This myth that things will improve after the January window is misguided in my opinion. In January, players who are with clubs will command higher fees (especially if our need is great due to a poor league position and threat to our FL status). Players who are allowed to leave for nothing will be as a result of them having not played much first team football and thus will take time to gain match sharpness. I am really not convinced that things are going to miraculously improve once January comes around, unfortunately. I'd assumed that people meant that the team would be gelling more fully by this point, that the youngsters would have gained valuable experience etc. Sort of the inverse to everyone working us out in the last 3 or 4 seasons. Agree that if anyone thinks the team will improve massively as a direct result of the Jan window is a bit barmy. Said youngsters are only here until Januray so we will then have to go through another period of 'jelling' with a new bunch of players (Clarke being the exception).
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Post by fat bloke on Aug 19, 2014 21:38:57 GMT
Don't matter in this business it's points make prizes play well don't matter it's a poor team in this league so i would FEAR the big R with this management team....
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Aug 19, 2014 21:40:14 GMT
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Post by yellowjam on Aug 19, 2014 21:40:14 GMT
Did anyone expect anything more than a midtable at best 1st half of the season given the changes? that's being realist, plenty on here are in lala land expecting us to be challenging straight away it was never going to happen, time will tell but even I would hope come end of August we can get in a 2 top quality players for this league to improve us big time (striker & creative midfielder) if not then we need to start worrying if result keep repeating themselves
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 19, 2014 21:40:18 GMT
Been worried for years even more so since moving to that crap hole at Kassam ...At least their might be 7.5k their saturday with the way we are playing giving 3pts to Pompey... but we played well tonight But we didn't score and we lost, It don't matter how well we play we just not getting the results and we should all start worrying now, What is MAPP's managerial record?
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Post by yellowjam on Aug 19, 2014 21:46:00 GMT
but we played well tonight But we didn't score and we lost, It don't matter how well we play we just not getting the results and we should all start worrying now, What is MAPP's managerial record? Please remind how did Swindon do 3 years ago in there first 6 games? Too many drama queens on this forum
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