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Post by yellowoptimist on Aug 10, 2014 16:14:42 GMT
Apparently I made the schoolboy error of thinking that Oxvox would be interested in this but it is the responsibility of the Yellow Army.
Can't think why I got so confused.
Disappointed at the lack of branding within the bar yesterday. Seems to have gone backwards from last season. Well publicised drink issue remains and yesterday we had Kirsty bloody Allsopp on the TV monitors! Long way to go
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2014 16:26:01 GMT
So who is responsible? It seems that when IL was in charge, we had the mythical bar split and things were rosy. Now we have new owners and there seems to more distance between the groups and silence
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Post by Mark Sennett on Aug 10, 2014 16:58:59 GMT
New branded items are in the process of being ordered. Drinks prices will always remain a problem and has been raised over and over with stadco as it's their business. It's still £3.50 for a carling and I think the rest of the prices are the same but I will check. Revenue split still remains in place and Lenagan said at the awards dinner that OUFC made circa £100k last season from it. Again will have to wait for the accounts to see (and that's if they are that detailed).
There's a clear difference between OxVox and Yellow Army. Some of us volunteer our time to help put up flags, fundraise etc for YA. But OxVox is the only supporters' trust and exists to represent its members and ask questions and lobby for them.
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Post by yellowoptimist on Aug 10, 2014 17:19:10 GMT
Funny! Put it on the yellow army thread and Oxvox rep answers put it in the Oxvox thread and yellow army answers.
Had to laugh
Thanks for response nevertheless!
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 10, 2014 17:22:16 GMT
100k is a very decent sum if correct .
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Post by yellowshert on Aug 10, 2014 20:09:10 GMT
I believe that Mark actually gives his time up for both Oxvox and the Yellow Army.
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Post by mariokempes on Aug 11, 2014 17:56:19 GMT
£100K profit share over a season sounds Impossible for a bar that from reading this forum very few use.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 11, 2014 18:07:42 GMT
If its a 50/50 split and we made 100k at 4.50 a pint that's 44500 pints sold in 23 games
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Post by oxymoron on Aug 11, 2014 19:00:34 GMT
£100K profit share over a season sounds Impossible for a bar that from reading this forum very few use. I wish a few less people used it. I gave up on a beer having arrived at 2:15 with the queue stretching virtually the whole length of the quadrangle; I'd just queued for 15 minutes at the (hopefully temporary) burger bar at the fence end; just two servers to dole out stale bread and lukewarm sausage for £3.50 - I expect to get ripped off at the caterers inside the ground, but he's had the last of my custom.
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Post by Mark on Aug 11, 2014 19:08:52 GMT
New branded items are in the process of being ordered. Drinks prices will always remain a problem and has been raised over and over with stadco as it's their business. It's still £3.50 for a carling and I think the rest of the prices are the same but I will check. Revenue split still remains in place and Lenagan said at the awards dinner that OUFC made circa £100k last season from it. Again will have to wait for the accounts to see (and that's if they are that detailed). There's a clear difference between OxVox and Yellow Army. Some of us volunteer our time to help put up flags, fundraise etc for YA. But OxVox is the only supporters' trust and exists to represent its members and ask questions and lobby for them. I thought that was all shared food and drink revenue (or soemthing like that) at the stadium, not just the "fans" bar. Happy to be corrected.
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Post by stevegilbert on Aug 11, 2014 19:42:43 GMT
New branded items are in the process of being ordered. Drinks prices will always remain a problem and has been raised over and over with stadco as it's their business. It's still £3.50 for a carling and I think the rest of the prices are the same but I will check. Revenue split still remains in place and Lenagan said at the awards dinner that OUFC made circa £100k last season from it. Again will have to wait for the accounts to see (and that's if they are that detailed). There's a clear difference between OxVox and Yellow Army. Some of us volunteer our time to help put up flags, fundraise etc for YA. But OxVox is the only supporters' trust and exists to represent its members and ask questions and lobby for them. I thought that was all shared food and drink revenue (or soemthing like that) at the stadium, not just the "fans" bar. Happy to be corrected. I was under this impression too.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Aug 11, 2014 20:02:36 GMT
If its a 50/50 split and we made 100k at 4.50 a pint that's 44500 pints sold in 23 games If we're getting 50% of the 'retail price' of a pint I'll eat my hat, and anybody else's.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 11, 2014 20:13:50 GMT
If its a 50/50 split and we made 100k at 4.50 a pint that's 44500 pints sold in 23 games If we're getting 50% of the 'retail price' of a pint I'll eat my hat, and anybody else's. I'd be absolutely amazed if we were getting 50% of the profit, never mind the price.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 11, 2014 20:19:59 GMT
If we're getting 50% of the 'retail price' of a pint I'll eat my hat, and anybody else's. I'd be absolutely amazed if we were getting 50% of the profit, never mind the price. Alright alright it was more of an example just to show how much it would have had to sold to get that amount. If they split is less than 50/50 and not taking into account costs on each pint as well, then there is no chance we make that from the bar in a season. Even over all food sales in the ground it's hard to see and if it is imagine what kassams share is $$$$$
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Post by Junior on Aug 11, 2014 20:27:13 GMT
All will he revealed in the accounts... Can't hide from those
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Post by Mark on Aug 11, 2014 20:39:54 GMT
All will he revealed in the accounts... Can't hide from those Sorry, but no need to put anything like that in the accounts.
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Post by sarge on Aug 12, 2014 8:43:36 GMT
All will he revealed in the accounts... Can't hide from those ....though we'll have to wait until NEXT years AGM for the accounts that pertain to the mysterious split ( and it wont be broken down to define what the 12th man (as was) bar 'generated' in profit split, ANY profit split from all outlets at the stadium on matchdays, inc exec box catering etc will be lumped in together I suspect, IF the profit split from matchday revues IS given as a seperate entity) accounts presented at the forthcoming (late) AGM are from 2 seasons ago .... The forthcoming AGM and fans Forum , (where questions raised wont be carefully edited or omitted), give 'us' the oppertunity to ask that particular question...weather an honest answer is forthcoming remains, as yet to be seen.... still 'we' can hope the answer is, at last, forthcoming...cant 'we'?
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Post by yellowshert on Aug 12, 2014 9:57:54 GMT
I don't understand this fascination with the profit split in the bar. As others have made clear we will never know what the split is and I suspect it is not a significant amount anyway. I think IL just liked to hype it up to and use it as a smokescreen to hide the lack of progress with the stadium purchase.
It's a simple question of whether you want to drink there or not. My friends and I personally don't like drinking there so don't, I miss the priory and think its loss as a meeting point is behind many people's decision not to renew and possible attendance decline but at the same time realise that the club couldn't afford to run it.
I appreciate the efforts of those who are trying to make it more enticing but even now continue to wonder why it takes fans to do this and not the clubs own commercial department?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 10:10:40 GMT
I don't understand this fascination with the profit split in the bar. As others have made clear we will never know what the split is and I suspect it is not a significant amount anyway. I think IL just liked to hype it up to and use it as a smokescreen to hide the lack of progress with the stadium purchase. It's a simple question of whether you want to drink there or not. My friends and I personally don't like drinking there so don't, I miss the priory and think its loss as a meeting point is behind many people's decision not to renew and possible attendance decline but at the same time realise that the club couldn't afford to run it. Agreed. Some people do seem to be obsessing about the whole issue; a few of those as a way of having a dig at OxVox, it seems, for not negotiating some ground breaking revenue or, more likely, profit split. We'll probably never know the actual figures (£), and if they are published it will be as part of total catering income. Personally I'd be very surprised if Stadco (or whoever) agreed to anything but a minuscule benefit for OUFC from beer sales. Why would they? I won't be drinking there as I don't like the atmosphere and don't have any friends, but people can make their own minds up about prices and who benefits from the OUFC supporter's pound.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 12, 2014 10:45:32 GMT
I don't understand this fascination with the profit split in the bar. As others have made clear we will never know what the split is and I suspect it is not a significant amount anyway. I think IL just liked to hype it up to and use it as a smokescreen to hide the lack of progress with the stadium purchase. It's a simple question of whether you want to drink there or not. My friends and I personally don't like drinking there so don't, I miss the priory and think its loss as a meeting point is behind many people's decision not to renew and possible attendance decline but at the same time realise that the club couldn't afford to run it. Agreed. Some people do seem to be obsessing about the whole issue; a few of those as a way of having a dig at OxVox, it seems, for not negotiating some ground breaking revenue or, more likely, profit split. We'll probably never know the actual figures (£), and if they are published it will be as part of total catering income. Personally I'd be very surprised if Stadco (or whoever) agreed to anything but a minuscule benefit for OUFC from beer sales. Why would they? I won't be drinking there as I don't like the atmosphere and don't have any friends, but people can make their own minds up about prices and who benefits from the OUFC supporter's pound. We can be friends if u like
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 12, 2014 10:49:29 GMT
Don't be suckered in oufcyellows. Yellowhood's online persona is that of an acerbic middle aged man. But meet in real life and you discover 'he' is a curvy 17 year old blonde girl. That's a mistake I won't make twice!!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Aug 12, 2014 10:56:02 GMT
Odd. When I met him he was a middle-aged brunette.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 10:59:51 GMT
You get what you pay for.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 12, 2014 11:00:50 GMT
I'm still waiting for my change...
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Post by Paul Cannell on Aug 12, 2014 11:17:05 GMT
I must pay you back that fiver sometime.
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Post by blox21 on Aug 12, 2014 11:31:00 GMT
Yellowhoods !! Did you used to be frank Maloney ?
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Post by ox1yellow on Aug 12, 2014 12:48:24 GMT
I don't understand this fascination with the profit split in the bar. As others have made clear we will never know what the split is and I suspect it is not a significant amount anyway. I think IL just liked to hype it up to and use it as a smokescreen to hide the lack of progress with the stadium purchase. It's a simple question of whether you want to drink there or not. My friends and I personally don't like drinking there so don't, I miss the priory and think its loss as a meeting point is behind many people's decision not to renew and possible attendance decline but at the same time realise that the club couldn't afford to run it. Agreed. Some people do seem to be obsessing about the whole issue; a few of those as a way of having a dig at OxVox, it seems, for not negotiating some ground breaking revenue or, more likely, profit split. We'll probably never know the actual figures (£), and if they are published it will be as part of total catering income. Personally I'd be very surprised if Stadco (or whoever) agreed to anything but a minuscule benefit for OUFC from beer sales. Why would they? I won't be drinking there as I don't like the atmosphere and don't have any friends, but people can make their own minds up about prices and who benefits from the OUFC supporter's pound. I've thought this for a long time. For me it is a relatively minor issue that has prompted an inordinate amount of discussion. Sometimes I drink there, sometime I don't. My decision is based purely on convenience, not on who gets what from the proceeds. If I can drink elsewhere I will, however if I'm running late then it just about works. The range of drinks is poor (London Pride was the best option but that was missing on Saturday), the prices seem high, the atmosphere can be pretty sterile, there is no option to drink outside and the queues are ridiculous at times. I know a lot of hard work has gone into setting it up, and I don't want to appear disrespectful for that. For me, there are just far bigger issues that need resolved before the revenue split becomes the biggest area for concern.
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