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Post by backonthecoupon on Jun 10, 2014 12:37:58 GMT
The last time i politely asked a fellow fan if i could have my seat back they had a hissy fit and threatened me with murder, so looking forward to this one!
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Post by Yellowbrains on Jun 10, 2014 14:04:12 GMT
View AttachmentI think it's the last four rows on the left side of the middle in the East Stand. This is normally fairly full with season ticket holders, and people come and stand at the back anyway, often squeezing in. I count 16 spaces not taken by ST holders? Occasionally there are a few day-trippers there. When it says "unreserved", does that mean that tickets won't be sold for that section and people just go there if they have a ticket for elsewhere in the East Stand? I would guess that you buy a ticket for the Yellow Noise section which allows you to go anywhere within that section.
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Post by essexyellows on Jun 10, 2014 14:20:59 GMT
So "they" have chosen an area pretty much full already of ST holders??
I may have to practice my "Feck off out of my seat" line....
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Post by Junior on Jun 10, 2014 14:23:22 GMT
View AttachmentI think it's the last four rows on the left side of the middle in the East Stand. This is normally fairly full with season ticket holders, and people come and stand at the back anyway, often squeezing in. I count 16 spaces not taken by ST holders? Occasionally there are a few day-trippers there. When it says "unreserved", does that mean that tickets won't be sold for that section and people just go there if they have a ticket for elsewhere in the East Stand? I would guess that you buy a ticket for the Yellow Noise section which allows you to go anywhere within that section. That not against the ground regulations and subsequently, the law?
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Post by Yellowbrains on Jun 10, 2014 14:34:37 GMT
I would guess that you buy a ticket for the Yellow Noise section which allows you to go anywhere within that section. That not against the ground regulations and subsequently, the law? As I said, it's only a guess and it might work completely differently, but what part of that specifically do you think is against ground regs/the law? I'm sure unreserved seating is done in plenty of other grounds, particularly in away sections. Might be interesting to find out how 'singing sections' work at other clubs which have them.
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Post by Junior on Jun 10, 2014 14:36:37 GMT
So "they" have chosen an area pretty much full already of ST holders?? I may have to practice my "Feck off out of my seat" line.... Apparently all ST holders got notified of the changes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 14:41:44 GMT
I would guess that you buy a ticket for the Yellow Noise section which allows you to go anywhere within that section. That not against the ground regulations and subsequently, the law? You will have your seat number, but the section will be treated as an 'unreserved' section. Everyone in there is there for the same reason, and all enjoy standing unreserved at an away game, so shouldn't be a problem. If someone wants to sit in their specific seat for the whole season, it'll be pretty apparent after a couple of games. Like all new things, it'll take a little time to bed in.
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Post by Long John Silver on Jun 10, 2014 15:01:51 GMT
I would guess that you buy a ticket for the Yellow Noise section which allows you to go anywhere within that section. That not against the ground regulations and subsequently, the law? I don't see at all why it's against ground regs. They will only sell the number of tickets/st for that part of the stand that is allocated to that area. It won't be a free for all for anyone who doesn't have a ticket for that block. Anyway, there are already plenty of things that take place that are against ground regs: persistant standing, smoking in the bogs, foul language... so no need to worry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 15:34:56 GMT
I'm pretty sure it says no flags or flag poles in the ground regulations
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Post by Junior on Jun 10, 2014 15:42:36 GMT
Are you sure all season ticket holders (in that area) were notified?
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Post by bardagyellows on Jun 10, 2014 18:40:17 GMT
Well I'm a ST holder in the area in question and I have not been notified at all. The first I knew this was happening was on the club website yesterday, don't get me wrong I'm all for atmosphere but it would have been nice to be notified first on this matter
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Post by sarge on Jun 10, 2014 18:59:17 GMT
Well I'm a ST holder in the area in question and I have not been notified at all. The first I knew this was happening was on the club website yesterday, don't get wrong I'm all for atmosphere but it would have been nice to be notified first on this matter .....the current OUFC admin in reality seem to have nothing but contempt for OUFC fans ...... 'oh we listen to the fans' , 'they' may bleat, except it seems its ONLY YA who get listened to, and even they(YA) get taken notice of very occasionally
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Post by mcf86 on Jun 10, 2014 19:23:01 GMT
I can see trouble ahead, with season ticket holders in conflict with the choristers. Well done those responsible, so out of tune with the fans. (Sigh)
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Post by pooshooter on Jun 10, 2014 19:38:25 GMT
Why can't they put the singing section next to the opposition in the north stand?
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Post by mcf86 on Jun 10, 2014 19:46:12 GMT
Why can't they put the singing section next to the opposition in the north stand? Good idea, RIGHT next to them apart from some netting, would be interesting against teams like lootun and Portsmouth.
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Post by Mark on Jun 10, 2014 19:58:27 GMT
I'm in the zone too, didn't get notification other than usual season ticket renewal. Will be a shame if some of the noisy lot who I don't think were season ticket holders can't congregate at the top.
Also will people who've moved from the right side be able to sing for the left side ?
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Post by Eaststandboy on Jun 10, 2014 21:07:33 GMT
so left side will be "louder" next season. I can't see it improving much. Most singers stand back centre anyway.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Long John Silver on Jun 10, 2014 21:37:24 GMT
so left side will be "louder" next season. I can't see it improving much. Most singers stand back centre anyway. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards So the singing section is going where the singing section is anyway... and no one is getting forced out of their st seat. So nothing really to complain about is there...
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Post by essexyellows on Jun 11, 2014 6:34:18 GMT
so left side will be "louder" next season. I can't see it improving much. Most singers stand back centre anyway. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards So the singing section is going where the singing section is anyway... and no one is getting forced out of their st seat. So nothing really to complain about is there... There will be "something to complain about" when those ST ticket holders who pick & chose their games turn up and have to evict a bunch of polyester flag waving snotty nosed kids. Especially if its near a full house.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 10:58:44 GMT
So the singing section is going where the singing section is anyway... and no one is getting forced out of their st seat. So nothing really to complain about is there... There will be "something to complain about" when those ST ticket holders who pick & chose their games turn up and have to evict a bunch of polyester flag waving snotty nosed kids. Especially if its near a full house. Bring some tissues then because I have a 7ft polyester flag and a snotty nose. I tend to get a bit ill in the winter too so you've been warned, things may get messy.
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Post by sarge on Jun 11, 2014 11:27:58 GMT
..... cynically reading between the lines then, presumably ( in line with the patronising announcements we've had imposed on us of late, especially last season.... words to the effect of " THIS IS A FAMILY CLUB, SUPPORTERS ARE REMINDED NOT TO SWEAR") ....now the current OUFC Admin have 'given' a singing area ( without informing season ticket holders affected as yet!) .... anyone daring to sing ANYWHERE else in the breeze block stadium, presumably, in the (misguided)view of said current OUFC admin', will be told to go into the singing area or to leave the stadium??? ....IMO Singing area, what a load of bollocks.... what ever happened to spontaneous, natural and organic creation of atmosphere at home home matches? ?? .... Oh MAYBE, its been snuffed out by too LOUD, innapropriate pre match & halftime (BAD) choices of music.....and TVP with thier stitching up of the more passionate OUFC supporters on their way to home matches in good spirits have had a hand in suppressing the more vocal element....... and the Priory no longer with us, equating to no proper mustering point where OUFC supporters can meet up and the pre match atmosphere can build naturally ....IF we(OUFC) either with or without a partnership with LW , BUY the stadium, and build a LOW ROOF safe standing stand at the fence end, there wouldnt be any need for a contrived,pre ordained, designated 'singing area would there? ....like Ive already said once, singing area ( while the intentions behind it are good, in reality...) Load of bollocks
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Post by essexyellows on Jun 11, 2014 11:28:03 GMT
As per earlier in the thread..... "feck off out of my seat" ..... even if I only sit in it at half time!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 11:39:22 GMT
..... cynically reading between the lines then, presumably ( in line with the patronising announcements we've had imposed on us of late, especially last season.... words to the effect of " THIS IS A FAMILY CLUB, SUPPORTERS ARE REMINDED NOT TO SWEAR") ....now the current OUFC Admin have 'given' a singing area ( without informing season ticket holders affected as yet!) .... anyone daring to sing ANYWHERE else in the breeze block stadium, presumably, in the (misguided)view of said current OUFC admin', will be told to go into the singing area or to leave the stadium??? ....IMO Singing area, what a load of bollocks.... what ever happened to spontaneous, natural and organic creation of atmosphere at home home matches???.... Oh MAYBE, its been snuffed out by too LOUD, innapropriate pre match & halftime (BAD) choices of music.....and TVP with thier stitching up of the more passionate OUFC supporters on their way to home matches in good spirits have had a hand in suppressing the more vocal element....... and the Priory no longer with us, equating to no proper mustering point where OUFC supporters can meet up and the pre match atmosphere can build naturally ....IF we(OUFC) either with or without a partnership with LW , BUY the stadium, and build a LOW ROOF safe standing stand at the fence end, there wouldnt be any need for a contrived,pre ordained, designated 'singing area would there? ....like Ive already said once, singing area ( while the intentions behind it are good, in reality...) Load of bollocksWhilst some have apparently not been informed, most have been in advance I believe. Spontaneous, natural and organic creation disappeared along with the manor. Simple fact is, on a terrace singers group together in a small section, and at seated away games (unreserved). At the Kassam, our singers spread right along the top of the East Stand, making it near impossible to get any proper songs going and going loud enough on a normal match. Nobody sings at half time anyway, and very rarely before a home game, so don't undertstand your point here. Buy the stadium? I'd rather get the hell out of here as soon as possible, the stadium is the main problem, 4th stand or no 4th stand, it will always be dire. Building a safe standing stand...right now that's not possible, so once again, can't see the point being made. In my opinion, singing area, fantastic solution to a problem that currently exists. Simply it's trying to make home games more like an away game, where all the singers group together. This helps the sound project out louder and quicker thus encouraging other areas to join in. Building new stands, terraces, low roofs are all impossible in our situation. Does the current situation work? Not at all. Have we tried a singing section in the middle of the stand? No, so why not give it a good go?
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Post by JC OUFC on Jun 11, 2014 12:05:32 GMT
I don't see what everyone is moaning about here? Most of the people in this section of the stand are pretty vocal during the games anyway, why does someone on the forum always need to be negative about our fans enjoying watching the game?
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Post by SteMerritt on Jun 11, 2014 12:15:07 GMT
Building a safe standing stand...right now that's not possible, so once again, can't see the point being made. I think the Safe Standing point is not only massively relevant to this discussion, but it is also a point that should be made at every opportunity, and as loudly as possible. The football authorities would love us all to forget this idea, let's not let them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 12:35:27 GMT
Building a safe standing stand...right now that's not possible, so once again, can't see the point being made. I think the Safe Standing point is not only massively relevant to this discussion, but it is also a point that should be made at every opportunity, and as loudly as possible. The football authorities would love us all to forget this idea, let's not let them. Safe standing is worthy of a different thread entirely. This is to do with the singing section and a short term solution that can work now. Safe standing is still a long term option and doesn't have any relevance to improving the atmosphere for next season.
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Post by Junior on Jun 11, 2014 13:05:50 GMT
Oggie.
Any idea why the club haven't been in touch with all season ticket holders regarding this?
Also why did they tell you that they had?
Did we need a singing action against that lot down the A420? Vs Luton? Vs Rushden?
If the product on the pitch is half decent you'll get a positive atmosphere.
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Post by John Lennon on Jun 11, 2014 13:09:55 GMT
Building a safe standing stand...right now that's not possible, so once again, can't see the point being made. I think the Safe Standing point is not only massively relevant to this discussion, but it is also a point that should be made at every opportunity, and as loudly as possible. The football authorities would love us all to forget this idea, let's not let them. You make a very good point. There is a lot to do over the summer, but safe standing is something that is on the agenda. As a football fan, I think it's a massive issue, and one we should campaign for. I will be speaking to the organisers of the safe standing campaign in this country over the summer, so I'm hoping ill be able to report back by the start of the season. As for the Yellow Noise initiative, there is much more that it involves than just the section, and over the summer, we will promote it more. A number of fans have worked hard over the last few months to make the new section happen, and I think it's really good that this is down to our fans who are passionate about improving the atmosphere. In an ideal world, we would already have a great atmosphere each week at our stadium, but this will hopefully help us enjoy match days more, and help the players, which is an important part of being a supporter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 13:18:14 GMT
Oggie. Any idea why the club haven't been in touch with all season ticket holders regarding this? Also why did they tell you that they had? Did we need a singing action against that lot down the A420? Vs Luton? Vs Rushden? If the product on the pitch is half decent you'll get a positive atmosphere. I think 1 row was missed out which is unfortunate. And obviously not, those were all absolutely massive games, with near enough sell out attendances, those atmospheres were always going to be great no matter what. If you have a full stadium and a game with so much riding on it, the atmosphere will naturally be good. Did we need a singing section against Morecambe, Fleetwood, Accrington etc? I'd say it was crying out for an improvement. If you can only create a decent atmosphere when you're winning, then that's embarrassing. I know our fans are better than that, I think this can help our situation. It's certainly worth a go.
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Post by sarge on Jun 11, 2014 17:24:36 GMT
..... cynically reading between the lines then, presumably ( in line with the patronising announcements we've had imposed on us of late, especially last season.... words to the effect of " THIS IS A FAMILY CLUB, SUPPORTERS ARE REMINDED NOT TO SWEAR") ....now the current OUFC Admin have 'given' a singing area ( without informing season ticket holders affected as yet!) .... anyone daring to sing ANYWHERE else in the breeze block stadium, presumably, in the (misguided)view of said current OUFC admin', will be told to go into the singing area or to leave the stadium??? ....IMO Singing area, what a load of bollocks.... what ever happened to spontaneous, natural and organic creation of atmosphere at home home matches???.... Oh MAYBE, its been snuffed out by too LOUD, innapropriate pre match & halftime (BAD) choices of music.....and TVP with thier stitching up of the more passionate OUFC supporters on their way to home matches in good spirits have had a hand in suppressing the more vocal element....... and the Priory no longer with us, equating to no proper mustering point where OUFC supporters can meet up and the pre match atmosphere can build naturally ....IF we(OUFC) either with or without a partnership with LW , BUY the stadium, and build a LOW ROOF safe standing stand at the fence end, there wouldnt be any need for a contrived,pre ordained, designated 'singing area would there? ....like Ive already said once, singing area ( while the intentions behind it are good, in reality...) Load of bollocksWhilst some have apparently not been informed, most have been in advance I believe. Spontaneous, natural and organic creation disappeared along with the manor. Simple fact is, on a terrace singers group together in a small section, and at seated away games (unreserved). At the Kassam, our singers spread right along the top of the East Stand, making it near impossible to get any proper songs going and going loud enough on a normal match. Nobody sings at half time anyway, and very rarely before a home game, so don't undertstand your point here.
Buy the stadium? I'd rather get the hell out of here as soon as possible, the stadium is the main problem, 4th stand or no 4th stand, it will always be dire. Building a safe standing stand...right now that's not possible, so once again, can't see the point being made. In my opinion, singing area, fantastic solution to a problem that currently exists. Simply it's trying to make home games more like an away game, where all the singers group together. This helps the sound project out louder and quicker thus encouraging other areas to join in. Building new stands, terraces, low roofs are all impossible in our situation. Does the current situation work? Not at all. Have we tried a singing section in the middle of the stand? No, so why not give it a good go? Tended to do both back in the days at the Manor! ..... point is ...NO CHANCE off either happening of late when the powers that be IMPOSE shit, inapproriate and far TOO LOUD MUZAK on EVERYONE, which STIFLES any attempts to build any atmosphere ( at the quieter games) As Ive stated ...and I AM a natural cynic....now OUFC Admin have agreed to a (small) singing section, does that mean 'they' will stop any singing in other areas of the breeze block because its not in the right area? Can you answer that Oggie please as you seem to know all the answers on this? Personally, I dont trust the current OUFC admin one bit, especially and even more so after their attempts at dishing out of ABCs to INNOCENT OUFC supporters!!!!!!
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