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Post by Mark on Aug 10, 2013 10:01:21 GMT
As you like asking questions and demanding answers from the Oxvox committee members, here are some for you.
During your time as administrator of the Oxvox forum, a serious role for an organisation which "seeks to be a unifying body and a medium of communication between all supporters of the Club." :-
1. WHY did you include in match day threads last season pictures of three clowns (a clear dig at Wilder, Melville, and Lewis)?
2. WHY did your match day opening threads often end with a comment by you of how much you would enjoy your bowls / Oxford City in preference to the United game?
3. Was this appropriate behaviour of a forum administrator of an organisation which "seeks to strenthen bonds between the club and the community", rather than denigrating the club and its management?
4. WHY didn't you identify multi-posters and trolls and ban them?
5. WHY did you only issue warnings and temporary bans to posters who repeatedly breached forum guidelines, even after being reprieved from bans and allowed to register again with new user names? (libellous comments, racist threads etc)
6. WHY did you quit as forum administrator? No wishy-washy answers.
7. DO you consider the RIGHT TO BID a good thing or a bad thing for Oxford United, and why?
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Post by eighteen93 on Aug 10, 2013 10:04:49 GMT
8) Do you have amnesia ?
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Post by Robin Shater on Aug 10, 2013 10:11:28 GMT
Slappy forgot to ask that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 21:58:57 GMT
Anyone reading the Yellow Voice forum? Here is a response by Ken to this thread; www.yellowvoice.co.uk/post/Ignore-Slappy-Bob-6470396?trail=15#1He seems to be the darling of that forum, which should mean it collapses very, very soon. EDIT - According to that same thread on YV, Bob S has scrapped his membership on Yellows as a direct result of this thread. Good riddance to the duplicitous so and so.
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:18:04 GMT
Don't care what has been going on, but that is bang out of order.
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Post by Mark on Aug 10, 2013 22:19:19 GMT
That's a shame. I was looking forward to Bob's defence as to why he let the Oxvox forum deterioriate into the mess it became. I miss Chris's match reports, serious debates, and news of current players and ex-players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 22:23:34 GMT
Don't care what has been going on, but that is bang out of order. As you're a regular arse-licker on that forum, I don't care much what you think.
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:28:55 GMT
I think that you have me confused. 2 posts do not constitute a regular poster. It's sad that we have some people on here who have to resort to personal abuse rather than use the forum for rational debate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 22:32:47 GMT
I think that you have me confused. 2 posts do not constitute a regular poster. It's sad that we have some people on here who have to resort to personal abuse rather than use the forum for rational debate. No confusion. Your two posts show the disdain you have for OxVox and the perverted pleasure you clearly get in slagging them off on that poor excuse for a forum. You've been found our pal. Cut your losses and shut up. (And by the way, two posts on YV definitely constitutes a regular poster).
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:34:46 GMT
Found out for what? Having an opinion on Oxvox?
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:37:23 GMT
I will do no such thing thanks. I will continue to post on hear and have an opinion and have reasoned debates with members of this forum. Sorry, didn't realise that you were in charge of who is allowed to post and about what subjects.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 22:37:24 GMT
Found out for what? Having an opinion on Oxvox? For being such a mug that you join in with the banned multis from here and the discredited trolls from the OxVox forum in slagging off a bunch of hardworking volunteers in OxVox. Pathetic bunch of snipers.
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:38:17 GMT
Only one mug from where I'm sitting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 22:39:17 GMT
I will do no such thing thanks. I will continue to post on hear and have an opinion and have reasoned debates with members of this forum. Sorry, didn't realise that you were in charge of who is allowed to post and about what subjects. You clearly don't like being called to account. Typical of your average YV poster. You must feel at home there. Why bother with Yellows at all?
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:43:07 GMT
Account for what? I think that the relationship with groups and club is too cosy. An example was today with the price fiasco that the groups had no knowledge of. Press statements that have to be cleared with the chairmen.
It's a thin line between working closely and naively being spoon fed information
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Post by finlandia on Aug 10, 2013 22:47:00 GMT
There has been some good stuff, like the branding, music, etc, but if everyone blindly follows, when it really matters, any independence or gravitas to really make things happen is diluted
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 23:35:39 GMT
Anyone reading the Yellow Voice forum? Here is a response by that complete w*nker Ken to this thread; www.yellowvoice.co.uk/post/Ignore-Slappy-Bob-6470396?trail=15#1He seems to be the darling of that forum, which should mean it collapses very, very soon. EDIT - According to that same thread on YV, Bob S has scrapped his membership on Yellows as a direct result of this thread. Good f*cking riddance to the duplicitous t*at. Wow, YH. That's wrong. You need to get down off your forum high horse. You're bang out of order. You really need to chill out and not let this place bother you so much. Id hope by the nothing you'll have apologised to Bob otherwise I hope the admins take action on you.
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Post by Mark on Aug 11, 2013 0:58:27 GMT
Why junior? Bob, as an ex Oxvox member and ex Oxvox committee member asked current Oxvox committee members to account.
I, a current Oxvox member, ask bobs similar questions of his time as a senior Oxvox member, running their forum. And he runs away, answering no questions.
I'm glad I won't have to read any more of his bitter old man questions.
Good riddance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 1:25:49 GMT
Ask what you like, no problem. Bob is old enough ( sorry bob ;-) ) to answer or not in this case as he sees fit. Infact, parts of this thread were making interesting reading from both sides. A refreshing change.
It's the personal tone and the abusive nature I take exception too. Also YH is like an unofficial admin on here of late. The 3 we have do a very good job, lets leave it to them to run things as they like.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 3:22:43 GMT
Anyone reading the Yellow Voice forum? Here is a response by that complete w*nker Ken to this thread; www.yellowvoice.co.uk/post/Ignore-Slappy-Bob-6470396?trail=15#1He seems to be the darling of that forum, which should mean it collapses very, very soon. EDIT - According to that same thread on YV, Bob S has scrapped his membership on Yellows as a direct result of this thread. Good f*cking riddance to the duplicitous t*at. Wow, YH. That's wrong. You need to get down off your forum high horse. You're bang out of order. You really need to chill out and not let this place bother you so much. Id hope by the nothing you'll have apologised to Bob otherwise I hope the admins take action on you. Junior - I do accept that my language may have been excessively colourful. I have amended that aspect, but since you've quoted it there was probably no point. As for the rest, I take nothing of the essence of what I'm saying back. If you'd been following the antics on YV you would realise just how personal Bob, Ken and others have been towards the OxVox committee. It's interesting how you've sought an apology to Bob, but not to Ken. Is that because you see Bob as a harmless, bowls-playing old man? Well he's proved himself to be a vitriolic troublemaker of the same group as "voteno" and I'm taking a stand against him. Nothing to do with "high horses", he is an orchestrator of bad feeling and deserves what he gets. Let me turn your own words on you. If you're really upset by something that doesn't directly affect you, perhaps YOU need to chill out? No apology. Admin must do what they see fit, bearing in mind that the bad language would be completely gone by now if you hadn't got involved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 3:26:42 GMT
Ask what you like, no problem. Bob is old enough ( sorry bob ;-) ) to answer or not in this case as he sees fit. Infact, parts of this thread were making interesting reading from both sides. A refreshing change. It's the personal tone and the abusive nature I take exception too. Also YH is like an unofficial admin on here of late. The 3 we have do a very good job, lets leave it to them to run things as they like. Bob won't "hear" you. He's resigned from here because he couldn't stand the heat of much-deserved criticism (and he resigned before I made my posts, by the way). I'd be interested to know why you consider I've been "like unofficial admin" of late. I've not asked for action against anything except "voteno", unlike yourself, who has asked for action against me! Rather hypocritical, I feel. EDIT - And I see on YV that Ken now considers you a mate for your intervention here.
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Post by Mark Sennett on Aug 11, 2013 5:39:49 GMT
Just to clarify no press statement has ever been clarified by Ian Lenagan that we've made. In fact previous chairman would have given me yet more hairdrier treatment down a phone for daring to say we didn't recommend price rises on season tickets, many fans wanted a change of manager, and we can't endorse the 12th man bar without a revenue share.
Ian on the other hand has no problem and in once instance actually published one of those quotes (season ticket one). So I'd stop getting your info from Ken's suggestions.
Sad that Bob's no longer posting as he was always on at me to post more and take things on head on.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Aug 11, 2013 6:27:56 GMT
If people want to set an alternative forum up, why the hell not? I note a load of inflammatory language towards individual posters, plus pompous electronic judgment by socalled keepers of the faith .
Repeat, all this mindless backbiting - by people of all ages- is pathetic.
Still we have to find something to whine about consideriing the team are top of the league ...,
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Post by Long John Silver on Aug 11, 2013 7:39:48 GMT
Repeat, all this mindless backbiting - by people of all ages- is pathetic. Have you read, or joined, or posted on the new forum? I've only read parts of some threads on it, but think your post would be far more suitable and appropriate on there. Have you posted similar on yv?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 7:41:20 GMT
YH I don't really care what all this about or who has said what. I just found your tone towards Bob out of line. I respect Bob, not so Ken, there's your difference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 7:45:09 GMT
YH I don't really care what all this about or who has said what. I just found your tone towards Bob out of line. I respect Bob, not so Ken, there's your difference. Fair enough. Your opinion. Mine is now different, I'm rather sad to say. Ken will read this, so thanks for making it clear you don't respect him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 13:55:03 GMT
Ask what you like, no problem. Bob is old enough ( sorry bob ;-) ) to answer or not in this case as he sees fit. Infact, parts of this thread were making interesting reading from both sides. A refreshing change. It's the personal tone and the abusive nature I take exception too. Also YH is like an unofficial admin on here of late. The 3 we have do a very good job, lets leave it to them to run things as they like. Bob won't "hear" you. He's resigned from here because he couldn't stand the heat of much-deserved criticism (and he resigned before I made my posts, by the way). I'd be interested to know why you consider I've been "like unofficial admin" of late. I've not asked for action against anything except "voteno", unlike yourself, who has asked for action against me! Rather hypocritical, I feel. EDIT - And I see on YV that Ken now considers you a mate for your intervention here. Junior and Ken are mates Remember seeing them talking outside the Priory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 13:56:16 GMT
Ask RobinS, he found us and provided to be very difficult to escape from!
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Post by Maurice Earp on Aug 11, 2013 19:52:49 GMT
Junior, as I was standing quite near you I remember that day well, it was amusing to see you squirming in your efforts to get away from the idiot that is Ken.
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Post by godalmingyellow on Aug 14, 2013 21:43:17 GMT
I find myself being in a slightly difficult position on this Bob v Slappy discussion, because I regard both of them as friends and I have a lot of time and respect for both of them.
In my view Bob and Trevor were too weak and cowardly and slow in dealing with certain posters on the OxVox forum, and I told them this several times over many months. But they always worked honestly and in good faith and for little or no benefit to themselves.
Working on behalf of a democratic organisation, brings with it the responsibility of having to justify your actions and answering sometimes difficult questions and being on the receiving end of criticism.
On the flip side, we all need to moderate our own language and do our best to eliminate personal remarks and abuse from our comments. That's how people get along after all.
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