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Post by jammydodger on Feb 9, 2013 18:17:29 GMT
Huge cliche, but it just wasn't our day today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 18:18:21 GMT
Huge cliche, but it just wasn't our day today. Im sure your right but how many times have we said that this season?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 18:18:55 GMT
At least twenty
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Post by tomox on Feb 9, 2013 18:21:38 GMT
Fair enough but out of interest why not? Not effective enough as a winger. Flatters to deceive.
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Post by behindthegoal on Feb 9, 2013 18:21:41 GMT
I wouldn't keep Chapman
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Post by jammydodger on Feb 9, 2013 18:25:16 GMT
Fair enough but out of interest why not? Not effective enough as a winger. Flatters to deceive. Without him today we were poor.
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Post by jammydodger on Feb 9, 2013 18:25:44 GMT
Chapman is one of the few that have a contract next year.
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Post by oxymoron on Feb 9, 2013 18:27:49 GMT
I've left games disappointed, I've left games bemused, I've left games stupefied, I've left games critical and I've left games demoralised, but very rarely have I left a game angry.
And my anger is directed at the players.
Second half, Rigg and Davies were tearing Rovers a new arsehole down the left. We were putting balls into the box at will. And until Harry Worley comes on, not a single useless piece of lard could be bothered to challenge for or run after one of those crosses. If Alfie had run about half as much in the preceeding 45 minutes as he did in the time added, we could possibly have had as many chances from the right as we did from the left.
For Christ's sake guys, the ball is not going to magically land on your head and bounce into the net; just because your team-mate has busted a gut to get the ball in your general direction doesn't mean you can stand around clapping him for his efforts - you need to match his effort with some of your own.
And quite honestly, if you can't be bothered to do that, then you can't be too disappointed when the manager doesn't come round offering you a new deal in the new six weeks. And I for one will not be disppointed either.....
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Post by tomox on Feb 9, 2013 18:29:23 GMT
Not effective enough as a winger. Flatters to deceive. Without him today we were poor. I'm not quite sure what you mean there jammydodger?
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Post by uptheus on Feb 9, 2013 18:29:25 GMT
Huge cliche, but it just wasn't our day today. Rarely is mate. We needed to take the game to Bristol today, but our first half performance was absolutely woeful, and lacked any tempo to put a team below us under pressure. Oh and before we get the oh but they're the form team at the moment, try telling Fleetwood that when they tonked us 3-0 after we were supposedly the formm team. Oh, and we must not forget the injuries. Well how does anyone think other teams cope? Excuses, excuses Mr Wilder Mr Wilder, please get your coat and leave the building before you bring your victimised position to the whole of the club. Oh, and the supporters who think we're loud and proud. Well I've never heard us sing like Bristol did today, and it wasn't even their big fans away day!!!
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Post by jammydodger on Feb 9, 2013 18:30:10 GMT
I've left games disappointed, I've left games bemused, I've left games stupefied, I've left games critical and I've left games demoralised, but very rarely have I left a game angry. And my anger is directed at the players. Second half, Rigg and Davies were tearing Rovers a new arsehole down the left. We were putting balls into the box at will. And until Harry Worley comes on, not a single useless piece of lard could be bothered to challenge for or run after one of those crosses. If Alfie had run about half as much in the preceeding 45 minutes as he did in the time added, we could possibly have had as many chances from the right as we did from the left. For Christ's sake guys, the ball is not going to magically land on your head and bounce into the net; just because your team-mate has busted a gut to get the ball in your general direction doesn't mean you can stand around clapping him for his efforts - you need to match his effort with some of your own. And quite honestly, if you can't be bothered to do that, then you can't be too disappointed when the manager doesn't come round offering you a new deal in the new six weeks. And I for one will not be disppointed either..... I agree.
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Post by Common Villager on Feb 9, 2013 18:30:36 GMT
Well that was just... painful. The players said on the Radio that we did well after we went 1-0 down not to just give up. I have a suggestion, how about for once we go from the start of the game, and take it to the opposition, rather than reacting all the time.
I'm bemused as to how anyone can claim that was a good performance.
Then Wilder goes and blames the pitch on the tactics, again. Well Chris, explain how we can pass it and actually play half decent football in the second half. Cause I simply don't buy the bad pitch excuse anymore.
The constant bickering between the fans, the complete lack of atmosphere and the ever decresing attendences just make everything even more depressing. Regardless of individual opinion of Wilder, I can't see how the general match experience is going to improve without a change of Manager.
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Post by jammydodger on Feb 9, 2013 18:36:58 GMT
Without him today we were poor. I'm not quite sure what you mean there jammydodger? The first half was shocking and we never looked like scoring whereas in the second half we looked more likely to create a chance when he was on. As frustrating as he is when comes to shooting, he gives us an outlet and takes pressure off the defence.
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Post by uptheus on Feb 9, 2013 18:42:00 GMT
Well that was just... painful. The players said on the Radio that we did well after we went 1-0 down not to just give up. I have a suggestion, how about for once we go from the start of the game, and take it to the opposition, rather than reacting all the time. I'm bemused as to how anyone can claim that was a good result. Then Wilder goes and blames the pitch on the tactics, again. Well Chris, explain how we can pass it and actually play half decent football in the second half. Cause I simply don't buy the bad pitch excuse anymore. The constant bickering between the fans, the complete lack of atmosphere and the ever decresing attendences just make everything even more depressing. Regardless of individual opinion of Wilder, I can't see how the general match experience is going to improve without a change of Manager. Totally agree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 18:43:48 GMT
Potter & Chapman were almost laughable bad today (almost, in that kind of you'd cry otherwise way). Parker showed more in his short cameo than Potter has in the last 3/4 games. He can be such an important player for us, but showed nothing today yet again. What is going on with him?
Special mention for Constable too. Missing from 4 yards twice is some feat.
Bottom line is, despite an awful and very very dull first half, we still should have won. Created enough, yet didn't test the keeper and a poor decision from Wright for the pen. Can we play for 90mins on Tuesday maybe, instead of the 30 we did today?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 18:56:21 GMT
Huge cliche, but it just wasn't our day today. Rarely is mate. We needed to take the game to Bristol today, but our first half performance was absolutely woeful, and lacked any tempo to put a team below us under pressure. Oh and before we get the oh but they're the form team at the moment, try telling Fleetwood that when they tonked us 3-0 after we were supposedly the formm team. Oh, and we must not forget the injuries. Well how does anyone think other teams cope? Excuses, excuses Mr Wilder Mr Wilder, please get your coat and leave the building before you bring your victimised position to the whole of the club. Oh, and the supporters who think we're loud and proud. Well I've never heard us sing like Bristol did today, and it wasn't even their big fans away day!!! I'm assuming you didn't go to any of the games vs. the scum last season then.... it was a massive day for Rovers and they were quiet for long periods... and the ultimate support days have little effect on our support really, what matters is the mood of the club and the football being played.
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Post by cruz on Feb 9, 2013 19:57:36 GMT
the only good thing about today is the money we took on the gate..
we need to forget this ..having analysed where we went wrong..and put it right in the next game ..which is huge. Lose to Fleetwood and we'll be looking over our shoulders again!
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Post by Lithuanian Disco Power on Feb 9, 2013 20:05:48 GMT
Bristol may well have been loud in parts but quiet for most of the game! Most games that are big away from home we tend to be loud and cinsistent
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 9, 2013 22:00:34 GMT
Rovers were a typical sing before the game, sing when you're winning but outside of that, quiet fan base.
We were quiet today, but that's life. You can't make people sing.
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Post by billyox on Feb 9, 2013 22:01:31 GMT
Was anyone surprised we lost today? Wilder went back to to his trusted 433 which we all know don't work and for the first half we was again out fought and muscled in the middle of the park. Beano was left isolated again which we all know happens when wilder plays 433
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 9, 2013 22:05:45 GMT
It wasn't 433. It was 4123. Montrose was the holding midfielder playing in the space that O'Toole would normally be in thier 451.
Now if Potter had been better at Southend, he'd have started today.
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Post by Mark on Feb 9, 2013 22:12:44 GMT
It wasn't 433. It was 4123. Montrose was the holding midfielder playing in the space that O'Toole would normally be in thier 451. Now if Potter had been better at Southend, he'd have started today. he seemed distracted against burton, couldn't score for toffee at Southend. So was worth a spell on the bench.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 9, 2013 22:26:35 GMT
Absolutely. Potter has been not near it recently. He's similar to Batt in that when the confidence is lacking, he disappears. Beano needs to learn to cross the ball with touch. He had some good positions today that were wasted because he smacked the ball across the box as hard as he could.
For all the hand wringing over Parker, I thought he did well today.
I do hope Wilder stops with the Capaldi playing in midfield thing. He was there, but may as well have not been. If Heslop had played like that...
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Post by unification on Feb 10, 2013 0:05:19 GMT
Absolutely. Potter has been not near it recently. He's similar to Batt in that when the confidence is lacking, he disappears. Beano needs to learn to cross the ball with touch. He had some good positions today that were wasted because he smacked the ball across the box as hard as he could. For all the hand wringing over Parker, I thought he did well today. I do hope Wilder stops with the Capaldi playing in midfield thing. He was there, but may as well have not been. If Heslop had played like that... Our midfield is tragic at the minute. I'm not the biggest fan of Leven, but at least he adds stuff which others don't and without him I think we'll really struggle from now until the end of the season. JFC back might be able to shore things up if we could get him back (or a young, cheap and creative midfielder in a similar vein) but at this stage it really would be papering over the cracks. I don't think even CW thinks we can get promotion now. I actually feel a bit for Capaldi. He's had a rough few seasons and has struggled to get things back on track here and playing totally out of position can't help. I still think there's a half decent footballer in there somewhere, but for whatever reason it hasn't shone through here.
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Post by isis on Feb 10, 2013 9:33:15 GMT
Is this it then? Years of mediocrity in league 2. The odd battle against relegation, the odd good run. Crowds dropping to an average of 4k, then down to 3. When I started going as a kid we were shit and in what is now called league 1. I say shit because on reflection it was decent and more fun compared to the depressing, hopeless and ultimately directionless situation we now have. Ever curse where you are born and the team you got lumbered with? This
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 9:48:30 GMT
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Post by uptheus on Feb 10, 2013 23:56:13 GMT
Rarely is mate. We needed to take the game to Bristol today, but our first half performance was absolutely woeful, and lacked any tempo to put a team below us under pressure. Oh and before we get the oh but they're the form team at the moment, try telling Fleetwood that when they tonked us 3-0 after we were supposedly the formm team. Oh, and we must not forget the injuries. Well how does anyone think other teams cope? Excuses, excuses Mr Wilder Mr Wilder, please get your coat and leave the building before you bring your victimised position to the whole of the club. Oh, and the supporters who think we're loud and proud. Well I've never heard us sing like Bristol did today, and it wasn't even their big fans away day!!! I'm assuming you didn't go to any of the games vs. the scum last season then.... it was a massive day for Rovers and they were quiet for long periods... and the ultimate support days have little effect on our support really, what matters is the mood of the club and the football being played. Yeah, I went to the scum last season, and we weren't that loud. And that was against our fierce rivals as well. Oh, and let's not go there re; mood of the club & football being played!!
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Post by billyox on Feb 11, 2013 7:04:34 GMT
It wasn't 433. It was 4123. Montrose was the holding midfielder playing in the space that O'Toole would normally be in thier 451. Now if Potter had been better at Southend, he'd have started today. For all intensive purposes that's a 433 very good idea by Mr wilder to play 3 midfielders up against there 5 Sent from my HTC Desire S using proboards
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 11, 2013 13:36:48 GMT
It wasn't 433. It was 4123. Montrose was the holding midfielder playing in the space that O'Toole would normally be in thier 451. Now if Potter had been better at Southend, he'd have started today. For all intensive purposes that's a 433 very good idea by Mr wilder to play 3 midfielders up against there 5 Sent from my HTC Desire S using proboards It's not. Montrose was almost a 3rd CB at times. One could argue it was a 4141 more than a 433.
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Post by uptheus on Feb 11, 2013 21:22:07 GMT
For all intensive purposes that's a 433 very good idea by Mr wilder to play 3 midfielders up against there 5 Sent from my HTC Desire S using proboards It's not. Montrose was almost a 3rd CB at times. One could argue it was a 4141 more than a 433. Whatever the system, it was a f*cking shit starting line-up.
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