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Post by mcf86 on Mar 18, 2011 17:58:11 GMT
The rumour mill is churning again, and the one regarding Chris Wilder going to Sheffield Utd has re-surfaced, this time from a friend of one of the players apparently. Yes, probally hog wash -but this latest rumour has some credence. CW has been conspicuous by his abscence in post match interviews -with 'Mad Dog' standing in, and he (CW) has been (for him) pretty quiet of late. Earlier today i sent Malcom Boyden an email as i heard that Kelvin Thomas was going to be there, MB read out part of the email -but completely left out any reference to Chris Wilder and no comment. Very unlike him.
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Post by cuppatea on Mar 18, 2011 19:34:12 GMT
when you say post-match interviews (plural), you mean the stockport game, right? you're giving a completely sourceless rumour 'credence' because Wilder deferred one interview? and perhaps Boyden didn't read out the conspiratorial part of your email because he's a professional broadcaster and understands how un-journalistic it is for a key radio station to engage in groundless speculation sent in by deranged listeners.
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Post by mcf86 on Mar 18, 2011 19:44:29 GMT
when you say post-match interviews (plural), you mean the stockport game, right? you're giving a completely sourceless rumour 'credence' because Wilder deferred one interview? and perhaps Boyden didn't read out the conspiratorial part of your email because he's a professional broadcaster and understands how un-journalistic it is for a key radio station to engage in groundless speculation sent in by deranged listeners. I was listening to your reasoned reply- until you went and spoilt it all with your last line. At this point it is probally appropriate to respond with an equally insulting remark, but then that would be stooping to your level. This forum is -as far as i'm aware, all about opinions and rumours to share regarding OUFC, if you do or don't agree with them then fine -but cut the childish remarks eh.
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Post by stokeu on Mar 18, 2011 19:57:53 GMT
utter nonsense
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Post by cuppatea on Mar 18, 2011 20:42:47 GMT
when you say post-match interviews (plural), you mean the stockport game, right? you're giving a completely sourceless rumour 'credence' because Wilder deferred one interview? and perhaps Boyden didn't read out the conspiratorial part of your email because he's a professional broadcaster and understands how un-journalistic it is for a key radio station to engage in groundless speculation sent in by deranged listeners. I was listening to your reasoned reply- until you went and spoilt it all with your last line. At this point it is probally appropriate to respond with an equally insulting remark, but then that would be stooping to your level. This forum is -as far as i'm aware, all about opinions and rumours to share regarding OUFC, if you do or don't agree with them then fine -but cut the childish remarks eh. it actually wasn't directed at you in particular, but reading back it does read very much like that. sorry. i kind of meant that as far as Boyden is concerned, the email could have come in from anybody and as far as he knew it was sent by an irrational gibbering idiot and therefore he'd choose the points, opinions and questions from it very carefully. my point was appallingly structured and it did look like a dig at you, which it genuinely wasn't. i stand by the rest of the point though, it's a pretty weak rumour at best.
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Post by mcf86 on Mar 18, 2011 21:10:06 GMT
I was listening to your reasoned reply- until you went and spoilt it all with your last line. At this point it is probally appropriate to respond with an equally insulting remark, but then that would be stooping to your level. This forum is -as far as i'm aware, all about opinions and rumours to share regarding OUFC, if you do or don't agree with them then fine -but cut the childish remarks eh. it actually wasn't directed at you in particular, but reading back it does read very much like that. sorry. i kind of meant that as far as Boyden is concerned, the email could have come in from anybody and as far as he knew it was sent by an irrational gibbering idiot and therefore he'd choose the points, opinions and questions from it very carefully. my point was appallingly structured and it did look like a dig at you, which it genuinely wasn't. i stand by the rest of the point though, it's a pretty weak rumour at best. Fair enough. Boyden did get Kelvin Thomas to comment on rumours regarding 'Beano' and Wycombe, i'm sure he wouldn't do so if he thought it unprofessional- likewise with the CW rumour, after all this topic is just tittle tattle and the sort of gossip that circulates just about every Football Club. Yes, it's a very weak rumour, but nothing to start WW3 over.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Mar 18, 2011 21:56:32 GMT
Why would sheffield utd want to take a punt on another L2 manager, one less experienced than the one they have already appointed who has failed miserably and looks like taking them down?
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Post by baldy on Mar 18, 2011 22:04:07 GMT
I've been told by a very reliable source that Wilder will never turn down Sheffield United and that OUFC will not stand in his way, he would leave with their blessing.
The club do, however, fear that Wilder would take his backroom staff with him and rip the soul from the club coaching wise.
I think its inevitable that he will take the reigns at Sheff Utd one day but I'd still maintain that its a bit soon given that he's only in his first year in league management and, well has he's done, he has shown shortcomings.
It would represent a gamble by a championship club to appoint Wilder in my opinion.
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Post by cuppatea on Mar 18, 2011 22:06:04 GMT
it actually wasn't directed at you in particular, but reading back it does read very much like that. sorry. i kind of meant that as far as Boyden is concerned, the email could have come in from anybody and as far as he knew it was sent by an irrational gibbering idiot and therefore he'd choose the points, opinions and questions from it very carefully. my point was appallingly structured and it did look like a dig at you, which it genuinely wasn't. i stand by the rest of the point though, it's a pretty weak rumour at best. Fair enough. Boyden did get Kelvin Thomas to comment on rumours regarding 'Beano' and Wycombe, i'm sure he wouldn't do so if he thought it unprofessional- likewise with the CW rumour, after all this topic is just tittle tattle and the sort of gossip that circulates just about every Football Club. Yes, it's a very weak rumour, but nothing to start WW3 over. the beano/wycombe thing had gathered pace by that point though, it was a widespread rumour that needed addressing. one email about wilder going to sheff u wasn't.
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Post by tatabanya on Mar 18, 2011 22:16:44 GMT
Wilder has done interviews with bbc and Oxford mail in last 24 hours... Not very quiet
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Post by cuppatea on Mar 18, 2011 23:04:54 GMT
Wilder has done interviews with bbc and Oxford mail in last 24 hours... Not very quiet by my calculations he does 7 a week: thursday press-call: Jack BBC Oxford Mail Yellow Player post-match: Jack BBC Yellow Player (the oxford mail post-match stuff is usually transcribed from the BBC or Jack interviews) and that's in a week with no tuesday game. as i pointed out earlier, he deferred the interviews after the stockport game to ML, other than that he's been doing all of them. all this 'rumour' is based on is "a friend of one of the players apparently". it's got less legs than the beano/wycombe one and that was a complete fabrication.
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Post by Beav on Mar 18, 2011 23:41:58 GMT
Wilder has done interviews with bbc and Oxford mail in last 24 hours... Not very quiet and the yellowplayer interview - 3.
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Post by hht on Mar 20, 2011 4:01:23 GMT
He is still too inexperienced. I think if we were in auto places or certain play off people then perhaps..but I still think it would only be a real likelyhood if he was showing he can hold his own at league 1 level (hopefully with us).
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Post by londonroader on Mar 20, 2011 18:37:31 GMT
Wilder has done interviews with bbc and Oxford mail in last 24 hours... Not very quiet by my calculations he does 7 a week: thursday press-call: Jack BBC Oxford Mail Yellow Player post-match: Jack BBC Yellow Player (the oxford mail post-match stuff is usually transcribed from the BBC or Jack interviews) and that's in a week with no tuesday game. as i pointed out earlier, he deferred the interviews after the stockport game to ML, other than that he's been doing all of them. all this 'rumour' is based on is "a friend of one of the players apparently". it's got less legs than the beano/wycombe one and that was a complete fabrication. Was it! They might have patched it up at the moment, but the problems not solved....
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Post by oxfordyid on Mar 20, 2011 18:44:15 GMT
I went to a Sheffield United game the other day.. against forest
It was such a terrible game to watch, and while Forest were on top in the first half there was very little atmosphere untill late on when SU got a late winner..
He's got a big job on his hands if he does want to go there, there was no pace or anything to their play.. they looked a really poor side.
Wilder has it cushty here, got his own backroom staff in, and looks like he's already starting to build to next season so would IMO be silly to go to a bigger club on the slide untill he gets more experience.
Can't see the SU fans being to happy if he was to come either
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Post by basingstokeox on Mar 20, 2011 21:44:36 GMT
Let the rumours churn if he goes to them at some point fair play. But would you go to them bearing in mind what you built and the fact we could be in te same div next year. A club in downwards mode is harder than one in upwards . CW is intelligent and regardeless of his emotions he will go with his career prospects
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Post by Beav on Mar 21, 2011 2:17:42 GMT
Let the rumours churn if he goes to them at some point fair play. But would you go to them bearing in mind what you built and the fact we could be in te same div next year. A club in downwards mode is harder than one in upwards . CW is intelligent and regardeless of his emotions he will go with his career prospects Wilder is a great prospect. Plus he'll have the confidence of already converting a club in downwards mode to a club in upwards mode. Hence improving his chances.
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Post by hht on Mar 21, 2011 3:17:20 GMT
The way I see it, and I reckon Wilder (despite whatever his heart may say) would see it is he could do something like Mark Cooper, go to a championship team (or they might be league 1) not get off to a good start and be unemployed after a couple of months, then have to go hunting around the conf or league 2 for a job. Or He can stay with us and I think the only way he would be sacked by us next season is if we were seriously battling relegation, He has time to hone his skills a bit in league 2 with us and get to league 1 if he does well.
If he will accept an offer from Sheffield Utd no matter what then fair play, there is nothing we can do, but it might not be the best career choice. If he gets us stable in league 1 in the next couple of seasons then goes he will be much more suited.
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Post by grahamwnorth on Mar 21, 2011 17:18:38 GMT
This will depend on where The Blades end up this season.
If they stay up there is no way Wilder will be wanted.
If they go down I can see the logic in going for Wilder, especially if we end up in the playoffs, which is highly unlikely seeing our run in.
I don't think their fans would be happy if they go down AND get Wilder.
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