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Post by headingtonoldboy on Jan 25, 2011 12:22:34 GMT
Has anyone else noticed that Ryan is not quite as assured as he was earlier in the season or is it just me? He does appear to be flapping a bit at crosses and his punching can at times be a bit "iffy". Now I am certainly not advocating dropping him as I'm sure its just a confidence thing, just wondering what others think.
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Post by moobs on Jan 25, 2011 13:28:40 GMT
Drop him. When was the last clean sheet he can be proud of? Ages ago. Eastwood deserves a chance
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Post by dabigfella on Jan 25, 2011 13:46:29 GMT
Drop him. When was the last clean sheet he can be proud of? Ages ago. Eastwood deserves a chance A certain whoooshability with this post I suspect. ;D
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Post by captainox on Jan 25, 2011 13:46:39 GMT
Drop him. When was the last clean sheet he can be proud of? Ages ago. Eastwood deserves a chance how many times has Clarke made match winning saves this season? Answer: on numerous occasions. if you're going to criticise for bad bits at least except he has kept us in many games this season to
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Post by bicesterox on Jan 25, 2011 13:51:07 GMT
I thought Northamptons 2nd was in Clarkeys gloves then Mackenzie seemed to appear from nowhere, thought it was down to Clarke at the time but having seen it on TV it was a well worked goal, pulling Worley out wide etc etc
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Post by grumpygit on Jan 25, 2011 15:45:56 GMT
Drop him. When was the last clean sheet he can be proud of? Ages ago. Eastwood deserves a chance how many times has Clarke made match winning saves this season? Answer: on numerous occasions. if you're going to criticise for bad bits at least except he has kept us in many games this season to Which says a lot about our defence !!!
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Post by jimc on Jan 25, 2011 16:28:32 GMT
He can be a bit out-of-position-and-flappy on crosses/corners (at the moment I'm choosing to believe this is mostly down to poor defending as a team...) but most of his shot-stopping is outstanding.
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Post by gottagetbetta on Jan 25, 2011 16:32:48 GMT
Astonished you didn't mention the Wembley clanger Moobs, adds force to your argument...Wooosh.......
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Post by stockportyellow on Jan 25, 2011 16:48:29 GMT
Obviously he's going to look unconfident.. he hasn't kept a clean sheet in a long time.
These clean sheets are the thing that makes a keeper confident.
Once he gets a clean sheet he will get many more.
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Post by Beav on Jan 25, 2011 16:49:48 GMT
He can be out-of-position and flappy on crosses and corners. Amazing shot stopper.
If he improves his handling and defence coordination with Wright and Worley then we should finally get a clean sheet.
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Post by yellowj on Jan 25, 2011 17:01:26 GMT
I don't think he organises his defenders well, especially at set pieces. We are often seen lacking at balls coming in to our right. Batt has a lot to do with it too. There is never a defender on the right post, we get punished many times in the same position.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Jan 25, 2011 17:19:10 GMT
I don't think he organises his defenders well, especially at set pieces. We are often seen lacking at balls coming in to our right. Batt has a lot to do with it too. There is never a defender on the right post, we get punished many times in the same position. I think its harsh to put too much blame on the goalie for not organising his defence properly. At the end of the day its up to the defenders to help the goalie out and make his job easier and at the moment they simply aint doing that.
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Post by moobs on Jan 25, 2011 19:14:57 GMT
Shoulda kept Beast
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Post by Lone Gunman on Jan 25, 2011 19:36:47 GMT
Change the record moobs. If beast was still here you'd be calling for foster to come back just to court controversy.
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Post by Contact eaststandboy on Jan 25, 2011 22:10:35 GMT
I agree with the OP. He made a punch when when could of caught it. Also that "back pass" incident.
its a blip and luckily it'd not been a costly one ATM.
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Post by Beav on Jan 25, 2011 22:15:56 GMT
If Clarke doesn't feel confident to catch I'm more than happy to see him punch. As long as we're ready to pick it up after
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 25, 2011 22:16:49 GMT
I don't think he organises his defenders well, especially at set pieces. We are often seen lacking at balls coming in to our right. Batt has a lot to do with it too. There is never a defender on the right post, we get punished many times in the same position. I think its harsh to put too much blame on the goalie for not organising his defence properly. At the end of the day its up to the defenders to help the goalie out and make his job easier and at the moment they simply aint doing that. Absolutely agree with this. The defenders are really supposed to organise themselves, goalies can't do much more than shout where to watch for runs and say 'mark up'. However, no point pretending he's looking as assured as he was earlier in the season, but most criticisms of him are really luxury. He's still the best keeper in the league, there's no keeper that doesn't make mistakes and in the end he kept us safe (like Beav says, if he doesn't feel confident about catching it then so long as he can punch and get back into position, it's fine). When our defence keeps a clean sheet or two I think we'll see a return of his assuredness, right now I think he's too scared about making a mistake (which generally makes keepers more likely to make one).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 22:33:01 GMT
I think Clarke is a great keeper, but I don't know how people can make the assessment that he's the best keeper in the league. Also I don't agree he kept us in the game tonight at all, he had very little to do really. He did however drop a big clanger (the back pass he failed to deal with) and was lucky it wasn't costly.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 25, 2011 22:36:26 GMT
I think Clarke is a great keeper, but I don't know how people can make the assessment that he's the best keeper in the league. Also I don't agree he kept us in the game tonight at all, he had very little to do really. He did however drop a big clanger (the back pass he failed to deal with) and was lucky it wasn't costly. Point 1 - Because none of the keepers I've seen in this league, or according to anyone else's opinions that I've read, look better than him. Point 2 - People are quick to criticise when he doesn't come out but don't seem to notice when he does. He came out and saved our defence trouble quite a few times tonight. Keeping us in the game is a bit strong, I retract that.
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Post by pugs on Jan 25, 2011 22:42:32 GMT
Moobs's catching some fishes tonight!
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Post by Beav on Jan 25, 2011 23:06:21 GMT
When did he come out and save our defence unless Worley passed it back to him?
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 25, 2011 23:08:54 GMT
When did he come out and save our defence unless Worley passed it back to him? I was referring to various crosses/corners he came out to catch (right after our third I think he got 2 or 3?), not coming out to smother the ball at the attacker's feet in his usual fashion.
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Post by Beav on Jan 25, 2011 23:16:26 GMT
How is that saving our defence mate?
Thats called being a goalkeeper. If he hadn't made those fairly reasonable catches then we'd be slating him for his poor handling.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 25, 2011 23:18:38 GMT
I said saved them trouble. I think it's fair to say coming out and making a catch from a dangerous ball is saving a defence trouble, and it's not easy to do. We don't face too many keepers who do it very often.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 23:18:42 GMT
That's the bear minimum of his job though. If he didn't catch anything today he'd be a very poor keeper, that's all he had to do (that and kick the ball away which he nearly cocked up).
Clearly from your username you aren't going to be willing to conseed that maybe Clarke is off form at the moment and isn't filling his defence with confidence. It's all very well giving the defense stick, but Clarke is just as responsible as the rest of the for our lack of clean sheets.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 25, 2011 23:22:47 GMT
I did say he wasn't as assured as he was earlier in the season.
It isn't the bare minimum of his job. Keeper after keeper I've seen just doesn't come out for crosses. Some of th best keepers around don't come out very often, Shay Given for example. Clarke does. Through that, he saves the defence trouble. Maybe that's just an indication about how awful our crossing is, but it's a fair point.
Btw, I'm not saying he kept us in the game or saved us tonight, but what he did wasn't easy. He had a decent performance tonight.
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Post by Beav on Jan 25, 2011 23:24:35 GMT
Exactly Headless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 23:26:52 GMT
I did say he wasn't as assured as he was earlier in the season. It isn't the bare minimum of his job. Keeper after keeper I've seen just doesn't come out for crosses. Some of th best keepers around don't come out very often, Shay Given for example. Clarke does. Through that, he saves the defence trouble. Maybe that's just an indication about how awful our crossing is, but it's a fair point. Btw, I'm not saying he kept us in the game or saved us tonight, but what he did wasn't easy. He had a decent performance tonight.Erm, that's exactly what you said, but you've conveniently edited your post now to remove that bit. Not big enough to admit you were wrong?
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 25, 2011 23:28:15 GMT
I was wrong.
I'm not saying it now.
And don't bring my username into this, please, it's not relevant. If I was called something else I'd be saying the same things and you wouldn't be accusing me of favouritism.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 23:31:35 GMT
You should have said that without editing your original post. Pretending you didn't say something is a very weak way to make your case.
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