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Post by mazarronox (banned) on Jan 31, 2012 20:03:14 GMT
Until either player plays a game, no-one will know whether these two players will fill the gaps left by the nine players leaving. wilder has a poor record with his signings so we will have to wait and see.
We have though signed two players, not rated by their own fans at all. wilson, has been called uninterested, whilst the Wycombe player cannot get into a team bottom of league one.
Crawley, Southend, Cheltenham and others have spent money to get players in, making us second tier even in this league.
Looking at how both Chapman and Josh Payne played on Saturday, initially it seems as wilder has again let good players go than he has brought in, if their old teams fans are anything to go by.
Did wilder feel had to bring in anyone to placate the fans?
On paper both players look questionable, time will tell.
Thats my opinion anyway, now cue the wilder mafia!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 20:14:42 GMT
shut up please. Your moaning is never ending.
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Post by superox on Jan 31, 2012 20:15:53 GMT
You thrive on continuously bashing CW and seek attention.
Has Wilder slept with your wife or something ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 20:17:11 GMT
Oh No Mr Negativity is back on the forum
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Post by yellowken on Jan 31, 2012 20:18:26 GMT
Until either player plays a game, no-one will know whether these two players will fill the gaps left by the nine players leaving. wilder has a poor record with his signings so we will have to wait and see. We have though signed two players, not rated by their own fans at all. wilson, has been called uninterested, whilst the Wycombe player cannot get into a team bottom of league one. Crawley, Southend, Cheltenham and others have spent money to get players in, making us second tier even in this league. Looking at how both Chapman and Josh Payne played on Saturday, initially it seems as wilder has again let good players go than he has brought in, if their old teams fans are anything to go by. Did wilder feel had to bring in anyone to placate the fans? On paper both players look questionable, time will tell. Thats my opinion anyway, now cue the wilder mafia! Nice little get out clause, "now cue the wilder mafia". Do you ever, ever say anything positive, or do you prefer just to bring everything down a level at OUFC?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 20:19:48 GMT
click ignore, its bliss! )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 20:21:31 GMT
I agree his signings have been terrible, just as it looked like we were heading towards relegation to the BSS he goes and brings us back into the football league and challenging for promotion.
Bring back Patto.
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Post by hairy on Jan 31, 2012 20:35:06 GMT
Their are so many faults with your post that I will list them to make it easier for me.
1. As you say until they play a game we cant know how it will go, so while you then feel the need to rubbish the signings throughout the rest of the post is strange yet typical of a morose individual such as yourself.
2. On another thread it has already been shown that although some fans of Championship Doncaster did not rate Wilson, others did. He will be dropping down to league two level anyway, so their views of him at that level may well turn out to be irrelevant.
3. You completely fail to point out that Rendell was his previous teams top goalscorer while helping them out of the division we are in, still nothing like looking at the negatives all the time is their?
4. You say we have released 9 players, which is not the complete truth is it? Three players have gone out on loan, while squad players (and some who it was a push to call that) have been released. We can get the 3 loan players back if they do well for next season and as for the others are they such a loss? They were not good enough to get into the team and were never going to be. Did we really need such a big squad for the 20 odd games we have left season?
4. You say Wilder has a poor record with signings yet we are far stronger than before he started.
5. Maybe we dont have any money to spend, surely its better to live with that or would you rather we went bust.
6. I doubt Wilder signs players on with the fans in mind, he is probably just trying to assemble as strong a team as he can to keep his job and try to further his career, its how most peop-le go about their working lives.
7. Given both players previous careers they can hardly be called questionable signings, they are gambles as any signings are but hardly wild punts.
8. Would you not be better off doing something else with your time than spending it supporting (in your own strange way) Oxford United? You seem to take no pleasure from it and everything to do with the club you rubbish. We are not a big club who are ever going to have sustained success, every signing you belittle and claim we should be doing better. If I ever got to the stage where I was as negative and pessimistic as yourself I would hope I had the courage just to walk away and say its not for me anymore.
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Post by concretebob on Jan 31, 2012 20:39:34 GMT
No they aren't. Stop looking for attention.
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Post by sihath on Jan 31, 2012 20:39:39 GMT
Until either player plays a game, no-one will know whether these two players will fill the gaps left by the nine players leaving. wilder has a poor record with his signings so we will have to wait and see. We have though signed two players, not rated by their own fans at all. wilson, has been called uninterested, whilst the Wycombe player cannot get into a team bottom of league one. Crawley, Southend, Cheltenham and others have spent money to get players in, making us second tier even in this league. Looking at how both Chapman and Josh Payne played on Saturday, initially it seems as wilder has again let good players go than he has brought in, if their old teams fans are anything to go by. Did wilder feel had to bring in anyone to placate the fans? On paper both players look questionable, time will tell. Thats my opinion anyway, now cue the wilder mafia! Wilder has signed some poor players, he's also signed Duberry, Leven, Batt, Clarke, Wright, Potter, Davies, Whing. All very good players, or do you not think so? Both the new players have dropped down the leagues to join us, they may play as well for us as Payne and Chappers have for their new clubs. On paper both players look good. One played for Man Utd, Middlesborough, etc and has played all of his career at a higher level than we are at. He brings experience and football intelligence and I think he'll work well with Leven. The other is a player with a good scoring record at this level. He's 25 so not winding down on his career. He's the kind of forward we need to complement Beano and he played and won promotion from this division with JPP. A good signing in my opinion. If me disagreeing with your opinion makes me "Wilder Mafia" then watch out for the horses head. Perhaps you'd like to respond to the points I've raised?
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Post by Simon Lill on Jan 31, 2012 20:40:09 GMT
Isn't it funny that people who slag Wilder's signings never seem to use Duberry and Leven in their argument!
Take your own advice, and lets see them play before discarding them as 'rubbish'.
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Post by mazarronox (banned) on Jan 31, 2012 20:42:35 GMT
Their are so many faults with your post that I will list them to make it easier for me. 1. As you say until they play a game we cant know how it will go, so while you then feel the need to rubbish the signings throughout the rest of the post is strange yet typical of a morose individual such as yourself. 2. On another thread it has already been shown that although some fans of Championship Doncaster did not rate Wilson, others did. He will be dropping down to league two level anyway, so their views of him at that level may well turn out to be irrelevant. 3. You completely fail to point out that Rendell was his previous teams top goalscorer while helping them out of the division we are in, still nothing like looking at the negatives all the time is their? 4. You say we have released 9 players, which is not the complete truth is it? Three players have gone out on loan, while squad players (and some who it was a push to call that) have been released. We can get the 3 loan players back if they do well for next season and as for the others are they such a loss? They were not good enough to get into the team and were never going to be. Did we really need such a big squad for the 20 odd games we have left season? 4. You say Wilder has a poor record with signings yet we are far stronger than before he started. 5. Maybe we dont have any money to spend, surely its better to live with that or would you rather we went bust. 6. I doubt Wilder signs players on with the fans in mind, he is probably just trying to assemble as strong a team as he can to keep his job and try to further his career, its how most peop-le go about their working lives. 7. Given both players previous careers they can hardly be called questionable signings, they are gambles as any signings are but hardly wild punts. 8. Would you not be better off doing something else with your time than spending it supporting (in your own strange way) Oxford United? You seem to take no pleasure from it and everything to do with the club you rubbish. We are not a big club who are ever going to have sustained success, [glow=red,2,300]every signing you belittle [/glow]and claim we should be doing better. If I ever got to the stage where I was as negative and pessimistic as yourself I would hope I had the courage just to walk away and say its not for me anymore. There is nothing like making things up is there! Where have I belittled every signing?
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Post by mazarronox (banned) on Jan 31, 2012 20:43:34 GMT
Until either player plays a game, no-one will know whether these two players will fill the gaps left by the nine players leaving. wilder has a poor record with his signings so we will have to wait and see. We have though signed two players, not rated by their own fans at all. wilson, has been called uninterested, whilst the Wycombe player cannot get into a team bottom of league one. Crawley, Southend, Cheltenham and others have spent money to get players in, making us second tier even in this league. Looking at how both Chapman and Josh Payne played on Saturday, initially it seems as wilder has again let good players go than he has brought in, if their old teams fans are anything to go by. Did wilder feel had to bring in anyone to placate the fans? On paper both players look questionable, time will tell. Thats my opinion anyway, now cue the wilder mafia! Nice little get out clause, "now cue the wilder mafia". Do you ever, ever say anything positive, [glow=red,2,300] or do you prefer just to bring everything down a level at OUFC?[/glow] We tend to leave that to you kenny boy.
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Post by hairy on Jan 31, 2012 20:48:19 GMT
Their are so many faults with your post that I will list them to make it easier for me. 1. As you say until they play a game we cant know how it will go, so while you then feel the need to rubbish the signings throughout the rest of the post is strange yet typical of a morose individual such as yourself. 2. On another thread it has already been shown that although some fans of Championship Doncaster did not rate Wilson, others did. He will be dropping down to league two level anyway, so their views of him at that level may well turn out to be irrelevant. 3. You completely fail to point out that Rendell was his previous teams top goalscorer while helping them out of the division we are in, still nothing like looking at the negatives all the time is their? 4. You say we have released 9 players, which is not the complete truth is it? Three players have gone out on loan, while squad players (and some who it was a push to call that) have been released. We can get the 3 loan players back if they do well for next season and as for the others are they such a loss? They were not good enough to get into the team and were never going to be. Did we really need such a big squad for the 20 odd games we have left season? 4. You say Wilder has a poor record with signings yet we are far stronger than before he started. 5. Maybe we dont have any money to spend, surely its better to live with that or would you rather we went bust. 6. I doubt Wilder signs players on with the fans in mind, he is probably just trying to assemble as strong a team as he can to keep his job and try to further his career, its how most peop-le go about their working lives. 7. Given both players previous careers they can hardly be called questionable signings, they are gambles as any signings are but hardly wild punts. 8. Would you not be better off doing something else with your time than spending it supporting (in your own strange way) Oxford United? You seem to take no pleasure from it and everything to do with the club you rubbish. We are not a big club who are ever going to have sustained success, [glow=red,2,300]every signing you belittle [/glow]and claim we should be doing better. If I ever got to the stage where I was as negative and pessimistic as yourself I would hope I had the courage just to walk away and say its not for me anymore. There is nothing like making things up is there! Where have I belittled every signing? On here. You have never been positive about any signing (or anything). Name one signing you have ever been happy about?
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Post by rollsy on Jan 31, 2012 20:48:48 GMT
Do you bore yourself?
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Post by helsinkiyellow on Jan 31, 2012 20:50:00 GMT
I think it is time to make Mazarronox an offer he can't refuse!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 20:53:48 GMT
Ignore the Troll )
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Post by yellowken on Jan 31, 2012 20:55:08 GMT
Nice little get out clause, "now cue the wilder mafia". Do you ever, ever say anything positive, [glow=red,2,300] or do you prefer just to bring everything down a level at OUFC?[/glow] We tend to leave that to you kenny boy. We.....? LOL!!!! You are in a league of your own when it comes to putting the club, players and Wilder down! Like Hairy says, if you are that fed up with OUFC, why don't you just walk away?
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Post by backonthecoupon on Jan 31, 2012 20:55:53 GMT
Computer says no
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Post by moobs on Jan 31, 2012 21:27:23 GMT
Are you being negative for negativities sake?
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Post by verbal kint on Jan 31, 2012 21:29:23 GMT
Are you being negative for negativities sake? It's a must be negative thread..... Blinking disciples
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Post by Yellowbrains on Jan 31, 2012 21:29:34 GMT
You seem to have to have done a very good job of ignoring my questions so far, so I'll post the AGAIN for you. No doubt you just missed them the other two times I've posted this.
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I have to question the motives of mazarronox, who is all over this board after a bad result but is conspicuously absent after good results. He's quite happy (gleeful, in fact) to pick apart Wilder's tactical failings (and he has made a few frustrating mistakes), but has not once praised him when he's got it right.
Maz, you're totally welcome to your opinion (as you're very keen to tell us all) but why are you only capable of expressing a totally biased, one-eyed view? And why is it that anyone who doesn't want Wilder out is a 'disciple'? Seems strange to make the comparisons to the religiously devout when you are more rigidly fixed to a simplified and unshakeable viewpoint to such an extent that you refuse to see the other side of an argument. ____________________
No doubt you'll see it this time and respond with your usual eloquence.
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Post by notaswindonfan on Jan 31, 2012 21:42:14 GMT
always look on the mazarronox side of life
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Post by oxfordgobrach on Jan 31, 2012 21:44:11 GMT
Their are so many faults with your post that I will list them to make it easier for me. 1. As you say until they play a game we cant know how it will go, so while you then feel the need to rubbish the signings throughout the rest of the post is strange yet typical of a morose individual such as yourself. 2. On another thread it has already been shown that although some fans of Championship Doncaster did not rate Wilson, others did. He will be dropping down to league two level anyway, so their views of him at that level may well turn out to be irrelevant. 3. You completely fail to point out that Rendell was his previous teams top goalscorer while helping them out of the division we are in, still nothing like looking at the negatives all the time is their? 4. You say we have released 9 players, which is not the complete truth is it? Three players have gone out on loan, while squad players (and some who it was a push to call that) have been released. We can get the 3 loan players back if they do well for next season and as for the others are they such a loss? They were not good enough to get into the team and were never going to be. Did we really need such a big squad for the 20 odd games we have left season? 4. You say Wilder has a poor record with signings yet we are far stronger than before he started. 5. Maybe we dont have any money to spend, surely its better to live with that or would you rather we went bust. 6. I doubt Wilder signs players on with the fans in mind, he is probably just trying to assemble as strong a team as he can to keep his job and try to further his career, its how most peop-le go about their working lives. 7. Given both players previous careers they can hardly be called questionable signings, they are gambles as any signings are but hardly wild punts. 8. Would you not be better off doing something else with your time than spending it supporting (in your own strange way) Oxford United? You seem to take no pleasure from it and everything to do with the club you rubbish. We are not a big club who are ever going to have sustained success, [glow=red,2,300]every signing you belittle [/glow]and claim we should be doing better. If I ever got to the stage where I was as negative and pessimistic as yourself I would hope I had the courage just to walk away and say its not for me anymore. There is nothing like making things up is there! Where have I belittled every signing? Stop trying to turn it into a petty argument by putting a twist on what he said. Yes, he may have been exaggerating your complaints but whatever, that's very minor really isn't it. Other than that he's pretty much just broken down your points and given responses to them, not having a dig at you, which you've picked up on. How about you answer the other points he has raised, which are argued in a perfectly reasonable way?
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Post by chippy on Jan 31, 2012 21:48:34 GMT
Remember when Joe Kinnear said Oxford's fans are 'muppets' ?? There is no doubt that he was aiming his comment at the likes of Mazarronox.
The attitude, viewpoint, outlook, perspective..call it what you like, of some of our fans makes me sick. Rendell is without a doubt a really good signing. Wilson must have some quality to have played where he has in his career.
We don't have the buying power of the Crawleys or Swindons. And quite frankly I'm not interested in us stretching our finances or playing budget by rolling the dice and hoping we get promoted.
Without wishing to sound too rude Maz, why don't you fu(k off and base your opinions on facts rather than moaning about players before they've even pulled on the yellow shirt.
I seem to remember a large number on here slaughtering Jake Wright after his debut. Need I go on?......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 21:59:25 GMT
Are you being negative for negativities sake? Is this a double negative?
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jan 31, 2012 22:03:30 GMT
Yes they are. Next question?
Question for you. If we hadn't have signed any players, would you be worried that Wilder was arrogant enough to think his squad was good enough? Or is the club running out of money? I just wanted to check. For future reference.
Final question. Do you like cheese?
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Post by yellowoptimist on Jan 31, 2012 22:08:18 GMT
Remember when Joe Kinnear said Oxford's fans are 'muppets' ?? There is no doubt that he was aiming his comment at the likes of Mazarronox. The attitude, viewpoint, outlook, perspective..call it what you like, of some of our fans makes me sick. Rendell is without a doubt a really good signing. Wilson must have some quality to have played where he has in his career. We don't have the buying power of the Crawleys or Swindons. And quite frankly I'm not interested in us stretching our finances or playing budget by rolling the dice and hoping we get promoted. Without wishing to sound too rude Maz, why don't you fu(k off and base your opinions on facts rather than moaning about players before they've even pulled on the yellow shirt. I seem to remember a large number on here slaughtering Jake Wright after his debut. Need I go on?...... My thoughts exactly!!
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Post by mintyshoe on Jan 31, 2012 22:11:26 GMT
Mazzarronox, you were having a little bitch on the Guttridge thread...claiming CW was clueless for selling 9 players and bringing no one in, that we had been 'outbid' (supposedly) by the team at the bottom of the league (...who have just signed Clarke Carlisle incidentally)
So how is it that Guttridge is so much better than Wilson?...Wilson that has played CL football for Manchester United, and served most of his career at Championship level. Guttridge can only dream of a career like Wilsons...Yet you condone CW for supposedly missing a player with his lowly pedigree.
This makes me wonder what you base your opinions about players on. Seems to me its simply if we sign them they're 'questionable' but if we don't CW's competence is questionable.
Your glass is bone dry!
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Post by salaghaf on Jan 31, 2012 22:13:12 GMT
Until either player plays a game, no-one will know whether these two players will fill the gaps left by the nine players leaving. wilder has a poor record with his signings so we will have to wait and see. We have though signed two players, not rated by their own fans at all. wilson, has been called uninterested, whilst the Wycombe player cannot get into a team bottom of league one. Crawley, Southend, Cheltenham and others have spent money to get players in, making us second tier even in this league. Looking at how both Chapman and Josh Payne played on Saturday, initially it seems as wilder has again let good players go than he has brought in, if their old teams fans are anything to go by. Did wilder feel had to bring in anyone to placate the fans? On paper both players look questionable, time will tell. Thats my opinion anyway, now cue the wilder mafia! ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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