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Post by Yellow River on Feb 12, 2011 20:43:28 GMT
Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - what a poor bunch.
Ken Clarke, at least he tells it like it is, might not be what his colleagues want to hear but it's quite refreshing to hear a politician being honest really.
"I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem."
"That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult."
"If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in."
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Post by Lone Gunman on Feb 12, 2011 20:46:16 GMT
Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - what a poor bunch. Ken Clarke, at least he tells it like it is, might not be what his colleagues want to hear but it's quite refreshing to hear a politician being honest really. "I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem." "That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult." "If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in." Because of the 'national credit card' or the tory cuts?
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Post by Yellow River on Feb 12, 2011 21:00:38 GMT
Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - what a poor bunch. Ken Clarke, at least he tells it like it is, might not be what his colleagues want to hear but it's quite refreshing to hear a politician being honest really. "I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem." "That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult." "If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in." Because of the 'national credit card' or the tory cuts?
Well back in October (from The Torygraph) Gross domestic product (GDP) grew by 0.8 per cent between July and September - less than the 1.2 per cent surge in the previous three months, but double the growth predicted by most economists. Growth over the past six months has now hit 2 per cent, which is the fastest pace of expansion seen over two consecutive quarters for 10 years. The data eases fears of a double dip recession and will reinforce government hopes that the private sector will pick up the slack created in the economy by mammoth public spending cuts. Ratings agency Standard & Poor's added to the cheer by revising its outlook on the UK to stable from negative and confirming the UK's AAA rating. The Chancellor welcomed what he called a "double dose of good news" for the economy. Mr Osborne said: "What you see today, in an uncertain global economic environment, is Britain growing, growing strongly, the strongest growth we have seen in this part of the year for a decade, and also our country's credit rating being secured. "That is a big vote of confidence in the UK and a vote of confidence in the coalition Government's economic policies. "I think that will underpin confidence in the recovery going forward." The pound surged after the third-quarter figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), rising against the dollar and pulling back from recent six-month lows against the euro. And now because of a bit of snow in December everything has suddenly gone pear shaped. Who do you believe Osborne or Clarke?
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Post by moobs on Feb 13, 2011 21:29:01 GMT
Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - what a poor bunch. Ken Clarke, at least he tells it like it is, might not be what his colleagues want to hear but it's quite refreshing to hear a politician being honest really. "I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem." "That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult." "If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in." How many middle Eastern people have they murdered?
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Post by Lone Gunman on Feb 13, 2011 22:18:50 GMT
Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - what a poor bunch. Ken Clarke, at least he tells it like it is, might not be what his colleagues want to hear but it's quite refreshing to hear a politician being honest really. "I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem." "That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult." "If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in." How many middle Eastern people have they murdered? That line's getting boring now moobs, haven't you got any other cliches to trot out?
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Post by Yellow River on Feb 14, 2011 9:29:58 GMT
Cameron, Clegg, Milliband - what a poor bunch. Ken Clarke, at least he tells it like it is, might not be what his colleagues want to hear but it's quite refreshing to hear a politician being honest really. "I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem." "That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult." "If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in." How many middle Eastern people have they murdered? Eh?? This topic is titled 'ken Clarke' , it is about his assessment of the where the economy is going in the next year or two. It's refreshing to hear a member of the Government being candid and honest. about who the cuts are going to hit most. As I said earlier who do you belive Ken Clarke or George Osborne?
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Post by moobs on Feb 14, 2011 10:21:56 GMT
How many middle Eastern people have they murdered? Eh?? This topic is titled 'ken Clarke' , it is about his assessment of the where the economy is going in the next year or two. It's refreshing to hear a member of the Government being candid and honest. about who the cuts are going to hit most. As I said earlier who do you belive Ken Clarke or George Osborne? Well i'd love to hear those that oppose the cuts like Red Ed Moribund come up with an alternative plan, and perhaps, hold their hands up and admit they wrecked the economy. I've heard alot of councils, mainly labour led ones, are cutting front line services but Council Tax has more than doubled in the last 10 years and there are many areas of waste and departments that can run more efficiently and save money. I don't believe for a second that cuts means reducing service, it should be about putting some projects on hold, cutting waste and being more efficient. It's not a gravy train any more. As for Ken, he'll be a goner soon, we all know about his left wing leaning with his soft on crime agenda as justice minister which is in contrast to Conservative policy.
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Post by Yellow River on Feb 14, 2011 11:16:54 GMT
Eh?? This topic is titled 'ken Clarke' , it is about his assessment of the where the economy is going in the next year or two. It's refreshing to hear a member of the Government being candid and honest. about who the cuts are going to hit most. As I said earlier who do you belive Ken Clarke or George Osborne? Well i'd love to hear those that oppose the cuts like Red Ed Moribund come up with an alternative plan, and perhaps, hold their hands up and admit they wrecked the economy. I've heard alot of councils, mainly labour led ones, are cutting front line services but Council Tax has more than doubled in the last 10 years and there are many areas of waste and departments that can run more efficiently and save money. I don't believe for a second that cuts means reducing service, it should be about putting some projects on hold, cutting waste and being more efficient. It's not a gravy train any more. As for Ken, he'll be a goner soon, we all know about his left wing leaning with his soft on crime agenda as justice minister which is in contrast to Conservative policy. Ken Clarke :- "I don't think Middle England has quite taken on board the scale of the problem." "That will emerge as the cuts start coming home this year. We've got to get on with it [but] it's going to be very difficult." "If someone says it's not as bad as all that, I say [they] just don't realise the calamitous position we're in." George Osborne (October 2010):- The Chancellor welcomed what he called a "double dose of good news" for the economy. Mr Osborne said: "What you see today, in an uncertain global economic environment, is Britain growing, growing strongly, the strongest growth we have seen in this part of the year for a decade, and also our country's credit rating being secured. "That is a big vote of confidence in the UK and a vote of confidence in the coalition Government's economic policies. "I think that will underpin confidence in the recovery going forward." The pound surged after the third-quarter figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), rising against the dollar and pulling back from recent six-month lows against the euro. And now because of a bit of snow in December everything has suddenly gone pear shaped. I'll repeat the question for you, Who do you believe Ken Clarke or George Osborne?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 11:27:03 GMT
I agree we are more in the shit than any politician will let on.
The thing is that the best thing anyone can do to improve their situation on an individual level is cut right back on their spending and if possible put some money away.
But the government can't tell us to do that, because they need spending to continue to help the economy as a whole, so they can't give us that advice. Instead they tell us everything is on the up again, which is at best misguided and at worst an outright lie.
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Post by Yellow River on Feb 14, 2011 16:42:42 GMT
I agree we are more in the shit than any politician will let on. The thing is that the best thing anyone can do to improve their situation on an individual level is cut right back on their spending and if possible put some money away. But the government can't tell us to do that, because they need spending to continue to help the economy as a whole, so they can't give us that advice. Instead they tell us everything is on the up again, which is at best misguided and at worst an outright lie. Good post. With interest rates at record low levels for the last 2 years it has been a wonderful opportunity for people to reduce their mortgage debt. I hope home owners have taken advantage of this as interest have only one way to go.
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