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Post by junior1 on Feb 6, 2011 12:35:03 GMT
Sacked at WBA.... Strange. Very strange....
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 6, 2011 12:42:58 GMT
Sacked at WBA.... Strange. Very strange.... That is odd. Not sure why these clubs think they are so big ie we have a right to be doing well in the top flight. If you ask me it is down to fear, the financial implications of going down make chairmen panic a bit.
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Post by Belgian Yellow on Feb 6, 2011 13:00:07 GMT
Odd indeed given he was being talked about as the next Chelsea manager earlier in the season.
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Post by baldy on Feb 6, 2011 13:19:49 GMT
Sacked at WBA.... Strange. Very strange.... Not too sure it being a 'strange' decision junior. 13 defeats in 17 games is a dire run and plenty of managers have lost their jobs for a lot less than that. If Wilder was on that run here you can bet your life the calls for him to go would be loud and clear. Di Matteo plays too much football for my liking and this another classic example of total football getting you precisely nowehere in the premiership. Its alright getting pats on the back but pats on the back aren't going to maintain your premiership status and WBA have made a good call. His philosophies might well work in the future at a club like Chelsea but Albion need less fancy dan football and more digging in.
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Post by tonyw on Feb 6, 2011 13:44:40 GMT
I believe that makes him manager #30 to lose his job in the top four divisions this season. One in three - krazy. Managers just aren't given the time to build anything these days. One bad run and you're done.
Having said that - like Baldy, I understand this one more than Allardyce or Hughton (or Andy Scott for that matter).
WBA have been a yo-yo club for a long time now, and must be desperate to consolidate in the Premiership. Then you look at the medium-sized clubs that have managed to do that in the past decade (Stoke, Bolton, Blackburn, to a lesser extent Sunderland) and they've all adopted a pretty strong element of pragmatism in doing so. It's not obvious that Di Matteo has the experience or flexibility to provide that. They've been looking a bit of a soft touch of late.
Would have thought this job would be ready made for Big Sam......if he'd take it.
The only really odd thing is the timing - they have two absolutely crucial home games (against Hammers & Wolves) as their next two fixtures, but whoever they bring in won't have the time to affect changes before then. And - having just waited until the transfer window closes - a new manager will have to work exclusively with the current squad, or short term loanees. Surely a couple of weeks ago would've made rather more sense - not waiting until after an entirely predictable battering by Tevez & co?
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Post by sihath on Feb 6, 2011 15:03:04 GMT
They are run on a very tight budget. Would someone like Big Sam be given a budget in the summer?
And do West Brom have the type of players that Big Sam would need to play his kind of football?
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Post by Cobi Jones on Feb 6, 2011 15:26:30 GMT
They are run on a very tight budget. Would someone like Big Sam be given a budget in the summer? And do West Brom have the type of players that Big Sam would need to play his kind of football? All the pundits bang on about the "good football" WBA play, so how can they appoint Big Sam?
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Post by concretebob on Feb 6, 2011 15:52:20 GMT
Lives near me, bumped into him Leamington town centre last month. Very nice bloke.
It's a very odd decision, I always thought WBA just wanted to stay up? They should be able to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 15:53:12 GMT
Don't be surprised if Wigan are advertising soon as they play good football but lose a lot of games..coming up to possible relegation bang goes another one
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 6, 2011 19:16:03 GMT
Sacked at WBA.... Strange. Very strange.... Not too sure it being a 'strange' decision junior. 13 defeats in 17 games is a dire run and plenty of managers have lost their jobs for a lot less than that. If Wilder was on that run here you can bet your life the calls for him to go would be loud and clear. Di Matteo plays too much football for my liking and this another classic example of total football getting you precisely nowehere in the premiership. Its alright getting pats on the back but pats on the back aren't going to maintain your premiership status and WBA have made a good call. His philosophies might well work in the future at a club like Chelsea but Albion need less fancy dan football and more digging in. Bolton and Sunderland play good football and are doing alright!
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Post by tonyw on Feb 6, 2011 19:36:05 GMT
Bolton and Sunderland play good football and are doing alright! Bolton do now - since Coyle has taken over, and after a decade in the Prem. They most certainly didn't when they were trying to establish themselves as a top flight side! Don't remember Sunderland being particularly pretty under Sbragia either - although they have taken it up a notch since Bruce took over......
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 6, 2011 19:39:56 GMT
Bolton and Sunderland play good football and are doing alright! Bolton do now - since Coyle has taken over, and after a decade in the Prem. They most certainly didn't when they were trying to establish themselves as a top flight side! Don't remember Sunderland being particularly pretty under Sbragia either - although they have taken it up a notch since Bruce took over...... My point is that you can do well in the prem by playing good football (Even if your not one of the big boys), what is your point?
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Post by moobs on Feb 6, 2011 20:58:12 GMT
Bolton do now - since Coyle has taken over, and after a decade in the Prem. They most certainly didn't when they were trying to establish themselves as a top flight side! Don't remember Sunderland being particularly pretty under Sbragia either - although they have taken it up a notch since Bruce took over...... My point is that you can do well in the prem by playing good football (Even if your not one of the big boys), what is your point? Blackpool?
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 6, 2011 20:59:33 GMT
My point is that you can do well in the prem by playing good football (Even if your not one of the big boys), what is your point? Blackpool? What about them?
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Post by moobs on Feb 6, 2011 21:14:47 GMT
They're entertaining and are having a great season. I hope they stay up and Stoke and Wolves go down, boring clubs
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 6, 2011 21:38:05 GMT
They're entertaining and are having a great season. I hope they stay up and Stoke and Wolves go down, boring clubs To be fair to Wolves they have been going for it too, i mean they have beaten the top four or five have they not?
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Post by junior1 on Feb 6, 2011 21:40:59 GMT
Ex WBA player Martin Jol to take charge??
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Post by baldy on Feb 6, 2011 21:59:24 GMT
WBA is a good job for someone. Allardyce originates from nearby Dudley so there is an obvious connection there as there is with Jol being an ex player. I dont think it will be too long before a club offer Dave Jones a route back to the premiership and WBA are the sort of club I could see him at.
I'd be surprised to see them go for a Di Matteo type again. They need someone more basic and with a more battle hardened persona and not just someone who can oversee survival this term but someone who can then build on it. I'd be tempted too to check out Pulis at Stoke. He's been there a while and I think it would be a non starter but worth a try.
If I was going for a couple of absolute long shots and for managers who I think have the potential to mark their cards at premeirship level then Steve Cotterill and Paul Lambert would be worth a shout but theres elements of risk there and I dont think Albion can afford that.
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Post by moobs on Feb 6, 2011 23:20:11 GMT
Hughton is the bookies favourite
Roy Hodgson?
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Post by tonyw on Feb 6, 2011 23:45:28 GMT
My point is that you can do well in the prem by playing good football (Even if your not one of the big boys), what is your point? That few promoted sides ever establish themselves in the Premiership by playing good football. I honestly can barely think of anyone who has succeeded in doing so - without spending a boatload of money to bring in experienced Premiership players. Certainly I wouldn't hold up Blackpool as a counter example at the moment - because all the current signs are unfortunately suggesting that their naivety is being exposed second time round......
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