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Post by Yellow River on Dec 9, 2017 18:53:56 GMT
I think it would be a bit churlish to be too critical after picking up 3 valuable points today, so well done to all especially Josh Ruffels. A few observations (which have probably already been made A clean sheet is a positive, Williamson had a very solid game. The back 4 all in their 30s means we play a too deep for my liking. Thankless task for Wes up top on his own. Tiendahli much improved. Mowatt looked much more effective on the right hand side cutting in. Lack of pace and wingers is very evident and restricts the team’s ability to worry and stretch the opposition. We were spoilt for a couple of seasons under Mapp, now back to reality. I still think this team has another bad run in them so I’ll be relieved when we reach 5o plus points.
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Post by Marked Ox on Dec 9, 2017 18:57:28 GMT
Top result but not a particularly good performance imo. Making similar mistakes to previous games when we have lost, although not playing as badly overall.
Xemi my man of the match, kept going throughout and was the only midfielder who seemed prepared to run past the striker or go from deep. Pleased for Josh getting the goal.
Some observations:
1) The defenders (only Riccy being the exception) are panicky on the ball around their area and cause problems for themselves.
2) Do we practice set pieces, defensively or attacking?
Defensively we were woeful with Donny having 3 free header chances in the 1st half from corners and one in 2nd half. Fortunately, they were poor at headers.
Attacking wise it was like watching a Sunday League team taking corners. Try splitting the big men and putting at least one of them at the near post as that is invariably where the ball is cleared from.
3) Substitutions are so predictable, time wise and who comes on, and don't seem to take into account the game.
Donny had a high line trying to take advantage of our lack of pace and we weren't making late runs from deep to try to change it. We were crying out for pace (yes obviously we got a winner) but why wasn't Napa (who has it) given a chance on the right to either test Donny or force them to change tactics.
If it was just this game then fine but, injuries aside, most games the subs are predictable regardless of what is going on.
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Post by MJB on Dec 9, 2017 19:03:23 GMT
I haven’t enjoyed a winning goal for such a long time just for the opportunity to give it back with plenty to that opposition goalie. Absolutely superb - very disappointed he didn’t stick around or come for his towel at the end - I had plenty more to say!
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Post by grenobleroad on Dec 9, 2017 19:04:32 GMT
Thought John Marquis was great for Doncaster today, bit filthy but caused our defence problems. He would be perfect for our system.
No where near perfect today but great win for the team.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Dec 9, 2017 19:05:32 GMT
I think it would be a bit churlish to be too critical after picking up 3 valuable points today, so well done to all especially Josh Ruffels. A few observations (which have probably already been made A clean sheet is a positive, Williamson had a very solid game. The back 4 all in their 30s means we play a too deep for my liking. Thankless task for Wes up top on his own. Tiendahli much improved. Mowatt looked much more effective on the right hand side cutting in. Lack of pace and wingers is very evident and restricts the team’s ability to worry and stretch the opposition. We were spoilt for a couple of seasons under Mapp, now back to reality. I still think this team has another bad run in them so I’ll be relieved when we reach 5o plus points. I think perhaps your being a little pessimistic. A good three points earned albeit the game was over by my watch by about 4 minutes when we scored. Still we should have put it to bed earlier.
Lets have someone take any penalties we get who can thump the ball... I reckon I would have saved Paynes effort.
Thought the two fullbacks did well but they are painfully slow and has you said we are without pace on the flanks, which has been evident most of the season.
Why persist with mainly just one up front at home is beyond me..it just gives the opposition and extra man to push forward.
At least we were more combative in midfield today which was a plus.
I rather enjoyed the game to be honest, nice to be back home in front of a warm fire, with beer in hand and watching Strictly though, as I got very cold.
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Post by MJB on Dec 9, 2017 19:19:33 GMT
Oh and our much aligned right-back was probably my man of the match today. Good see him going from strength to strength despite the early pelters.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 9, 2017 19:21:32 GMT
Oh and our much aligned right-back was probably my man of the match today. Good see him going from strength to strength despite the early pelters. He put in a few perfectly timed sliding tackles today, should send him up for corners as well, really gets a head on it and is not the fastest to have back anyway. Best game so far
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 19:26:53 GMT
I haven’t enjoyed a winning goal for such a long time ! Me too. But we were close to dogshit against a poor side. Wes Thomas must dream about being left alone to be picked off by savages and the lack of pace and desire from Henry and Mowatt is scary. Lucky. Hope we can stay up.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 19:31:07 GMT
One up front doesn't work. Where to play Payne? On one or other wing where we have no pace or imagination.
Thank f*ck for Ricardinho, our one intelligent footballer.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 19:33:08 GMT
Apart from Thomas.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 9, 2017 19:37:33 GMT
To be fair, apart from the goal, josh ruffels played some very decent football today, who needs lunny when josh can ping a 40 yard pass to feet for mowatt
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Post by RCYellowRC on Dec 9, 2017 20:15:25 GMT
How good does that feel? After dropping 6 points this season from games that we deserved to win and were winning in the last 10 minutes, It's all if's and buts, however if we had managed those games better we would currently be 6th . Rotherham,Shrewsbury and Bradford we finally got to feel the sensation of a last minute winner all were draws in the end. Something we haven't had in the league at home since Maguire's free kick against Bradford.
The two things that frustrated me today other then the ref was our defenses tendency to play it across the back line, and giving Eastwood more work then he should have probably had. The second thing is why did it take 80 minutes for us to start playing like a really good team? The game opened up and it was the period when we were on top.
Also a thank you to there player for laying down injured for that long before being perfectly fine, as without that moment we would've drawn.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Dec 9, 2017 20:23:27 GMT
Well I thought that was a very poor game between two poor sides, run by a very poor ref. And it was very cold. Indeed.
I know we won, but take that last 30 seconds away and think about what we'd be saying. As a performance it was terrible, highlighting our complete lack of any pace on any part of the pitch (and thus no player being able to go past an opposition player), our constant ability to over-complicate even the simplest thing (for example a free kick with the chance to put the ball into their box was instead played short and then another of our players joined out by the corner flag - trying to find some space to put the ball in their box. We lost the ball.), the lack of any meaningful service to whoever was up front, the lack of imagination shown both on the pitch (give to to Payne, he'll do something) or on the touchline (like for like substitutions when the game was crying out for a bit of pace - just get Napa on for ten minutes), the reluctance to shoot (well done Josh Ruffels for having the cojones to do so) and the lack of much steel in midfield.
I am delighted we won of course - but not in the least with the way we played. And while I understand the wish to present stuff in a positive light, a couple of the post match interviews were a trifle too rose-tinted to take seriously!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 20:29:29 GMT
To be fair, apart from the goal, josh ruffels played some very decent football today, who needs lunny when josh can ping a 40 yard pass to feet for mowatt Ruffels was OK. Like Payne. My point was more that there's no point in playing a pass to Mowatt (or Henry for that matter) because neither is good enough for a side that will possibly struggle to stay in Div 3. No pace and no evident desire. Two wages wasted.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 9, 2017 20:32:02 GMT
To be fair, apart from the goal, josh ruffels played some very decent football today, who needs lunny when josh can ping a 40 yard pass to feet for mowatt Ruffels was OK. Like Payne. My point was more that there's no point in playing a pass to Mowatt (or Henry for that matter) because neither is good enough for a side that will possibly struggle to stay in Div 3. No pace and no evident desire. Two wages wasted. Henry and mowatt are ok, just steady players, what they ain’t is attacking wingers. Which we really are crying out for as the rest of the team is similar, ok steady and reliable.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 20:33:23 GMT
They are not.
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Post by eighteen93 on Dec 9, 2017 20:34:49 GMT
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Post by pottersrightboot on Dec 9, 2017 20:35:23 GMT
‘Hope we stay up’?
What a load of drivel. We are nearly half way through the season and we are 8th in table. With an absolutely horrendous injury list. I wish some of our supporters would actually do a bit more ‘supporting’.
Look it was fairly grim today but I sense a change in style to accommodate our stately back 4. We are ‘sitting in’ far more. Doncaster barely had a chance. Josh R bought a raffle ticket - and won Tiendalli very good today.
Referee and assistants were shocking. . Really shocking. How come the lino did not see the Marquis kick? It was blatant.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 20:37:00 GMT
Ah f*ck. They're boring and dull. Give me Zorro, cut & thrust, thud and blunder. Not this square passing ticks tacks rubbish. Oxford deserves flair and mental agility not drilled journeymen.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 9, 2017 20:38:21 GMT
Just think it’s the roles they are being asked to do. Mowatt played a lot of game in the championship for Leeds, Henry the same for wolves (keeping graham out the side) having not much pace both would be better with overlapping attacking fullbacks, ours don’t very often. Mowatt and rothwell are both more suited to Payne’s role, trouble being Payne is so much better than both that they won’t get a game there
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Post by pottersrightboot on Dec 9, 2017 20:39:20 GMT
To be fair, apart from the goal, josh ruffels played some very decent football today, who needs lunny when josh can ping a 40 yard pass to feet for mowatt Ruffels was OK. Like Payne. My point was more that there's no point in playing a pass to Mowatt (or Henry for that matter) because neither is good enough for a side that will possibly struggle to stay in Div 3. No pace and no evident desire. Two wages wasted. Absolute hogwash. Henry was a fitness doubt today and did well to last an hour. He’s a more than decent player at this level so long as he’s used on the right.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 20:40:31 GMT
‘Hope we stay up’? What a load of drivel. We are nearly half way through the season and we are 8th in table. With an absolutely horrendous injury list. I wish some of our supporters would actually do a bit more ‘supporting’. You are Dr Pangloss on the new forum. Five pounds please.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Dec 9, 2017 20:44:32 GMT
‘Hope we stay up’? What a load of drivel. We are nearly half way through the season and we are 8th in table. With an absolutely horrendous injury list. I wish some of our supporters would actually do a bit more ‘supporting’. You are Dr Pangloss on the new forum. Five pounds please. You are Eeyore the effing donkey.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 9, 2017 20:48:06 GMT
Give me nettles (and not John Nettles) you brilliant philosopher.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Dec 9, 2017 20:49:41 GMT
What a Donny fan has written on their forum, You will have to forgive his literacy.
Posts: 3047
Re: Why oh why.... « Reply #11 on Today at 07:45:07 PM by the vicar »
Lot better team with Baudry in it than without him, first half we closed them down a treat half way through the second half we stopped doing it and then gave there player to much room to get his shot away, but it would of been totally different if the one that hit the post witch personally I thought it went over the line if I had gon in I think we would of won by a couple
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Post by makv on Dec 9, 2017 20:51:13 GMT
‘Hope we stay up’? What a load of drivel. We are nearly half way through the season and we are 8th in table. With an absolutely horrendous injury list. I wish some of our supporters would actually do a bit more ‘supporting’ And with the second best GF in the league. Goal scoring not really our issue. The East Stand was really really quiet today, despite the Ultras’ best efforts.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Dec 9, 2017 20:51:46 GMT
Give me nettles (and not John Nettles) you brilliant philosopher. Hope we stay up 👏
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Post by makv on Dec 9, 2017 20:52:55 GMT
What a Donny fan has written on their forum, You will have to forgive his literacy. Posts: 3047 Re: Why oh why.... « Reply #11 on Today at 07:45:07 PM by the vicar » Lot better team with Baudry in it than without him, first half we closed them down a treat half way through the second half we stopped doing it and then gave there player to much room to get his shot away, but it would of been totally different if the one that hit the post witch personally I thought it went over the line if I had gon in I think we would of won by a couple Ouch
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Post by oxfordmitch on Dec 9, 2017 20:58:33 GMT
Have to agree with ZeroTheHero. We were awful today.
I’ll start with positives:
Williamson had a decent game, good to see him back, won loads in the air.
Ruffles scored a fantastic goal, regardless of the questionable keeping.
We got 3 points.
Negatives:
If we played a remotely half decent side, we would’ve been stuffed today. Marquis was handy but had no service, no wonder they are down the bottom. Organised and physical but lack quality.
Tactically, we are awful. We have an old back four which are way too deep. We then stick two central midfielders in front of them, who clearly don’t get told to mark men, they just mark space. We have wingers who arnt quick and don’t penetrate enough (Mowatt out of position so sole leeway given). Because we are so deep, Thomas is isolated and we spend large parts of the game defending against teams that we should be attacking. We also arnt solid enough to soak up pressure and arnt quick enough to counter.
Pep wants us to pass and pass and pass. Yet, has bought plenty of players incapable of doing this. Let’s knock it about at the back for ages until someone who can’t play out has to rush it back to Eastwood who then has to boot it long.
We never go 2 up top. This is the biggest joke of them all.
People praising Xemi. Doesn’t really tackle. Can’t dribble. Passing isn’t even that good. The worst central midfielder in 4 years at least.
Tiendalli. Yes, he is improving but he is caught out of position regularly and still doesn’t offer much on the ball. I much preferred Phil Edwards.
We are not enjoyable to watch. Not sure how we are 8th.
Don’t get me wrong, very happy with the 3 points but that result has masked just how woeful we were today, often playing with no zip or bite and very little attacking intent.
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Post by robie on Dec 9, 2017 21:03:13 GMT
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