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Post by robie on Oct 21, 2017 19:53:16 GMT
I must say we are playing such good football at the moment I don't care if we concede last minute for a draw.
So long as we aren't anywhere near relegation I would be happy to remain a league 1 team playing fantastic football.
Obviously wins are much better but after years of watching dross; this season in particular has seen a massive improvement in the quality of players at the club and the football on show.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Oct 22, 2017 10:28:57 GMT
I must say we are playing such good football at the moment I don't care if we concede last minute for a draw. So long as we aren't anywhere near relegation I would be happy to remain a league 1 team playing fantastic football. Obviously wins are much better but after years of watching dross; this season in particular has seen a massive improvement in the quality of players at the club and the football on show. I’ve had this discussion on this forum previously - with someone who claimed they’d rather watch us win our next 100 matches 1-0 boringly, than watch attractive entertaining football with the result in doubt. No, give me this season over Atkins grinding out results any day!
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Post by foley on Oct 22, 2017 10:46:17 GMT
I am afraid that I want my cake and to eat it....
So I am loving watching such good attractive football. I remember IA. Also in the second season back in League 2 with CW, at the end of the season I looked back and could hardly remember anything exciting about the previous seasons home games.
This therefore is a huge improvement (and to be fair many of the opposition sides are also very good).
Having said that I DO mind if we let in a last minute equaliser. Pep's ambition will undoubtedly be to take us into the Championship (his stock would rise significantly). With the players we have (maybe adding a couple more) and the style that we play I can't see why we shouldn't have a really good push at Promotion in the next couple of seasons. Based on that no last minute goals conceded please ...
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Post by yellowg on Oct 22, 2017 10:50:28 GMT
I'm a football fan who supports oxford united. I would like us to win...but as a by product of good entertaining football. I was hugely entertained yesterday...and so was the young lad I took with me who presently supports Chelsea.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 22, 2017 10:52:10 GMT
As much as I enjoy being entertained, I want to see wins. Go and ask an Arsenal fan how fun it is watching good technical players and pretty passing, only to slip further and further away from winning the PL with every passing year. They'll be beside themselves.
I understand the basic principle of this post and I too have really enjoyed the last month or so, but beyond a certain point it's complete nonsense. If we had 46 3-3 draws like yesterday across a season we'd get relegated.
I know we've had some total dross over the years - I watched us go from the Championship to the Conference in about seven years between 1999 and 2006 like the rest of us - but let's not get carried away with saying the results aren't even important just because Jack Payne is good at dribbling and Ricardinho has a song.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Oct 22, 2017 11:38:32 GMT
As much as I enjoy being entertained, I want to see wins. Go and ask an Arsenal fan how fun it is watching good technical players and pretty passing, only to slip further and further away from winning the PL with every passing year. They'll be beside themselves. I understand the basic principle of this post and I too have really enjoyed the last month or so, but beyond a certain point it's complete nonsense. If we had 46 3-3 draws like yesterday across a season we'd get relegated. I know we've had some total dross over the years - I watched us go from the Championship to the Conference in about seven years between 1999 and 2006 like the rest of us - but let's not get carried away with saying the results aren't even important just because Jack Payne is good at dribbling and Ricardinho has a song. Oh yes: winning is great. And seeing us near the top of the table is “entertaining” in its own right. But Wilder/Atkins bore 1-0s? No thank you. Of course, I’m ‘cake and eat it’ too!
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Post by ioualways on Oct 22, 2017 11:53:51 GMT
I'm only able to watch via iFollow, but I too was hugely entertained by yesterday's game....until the 78th minute, that is. I'd prefer to see us win...but preferably not playing boring football.
The nice thing is that it really isn't a choice between fast, free-flowing, skillful, exciting football that ends in a draw and boring defensive hoofball that ends in a 1-0 victory. The type of football seen for the past few weeks really is much more likely to result in wins than draws or defeats, just as West Brom's dire and soulless brand of football under Pulis doesn't seem to be leading to many 1-0 victories (just two victories in the last 18 games). We just happen to have played two good sides in the last couple of games, and both Charlton and Rotherham probably deserved a point from those games.
So yes, we can both have cake and eat it too...the cake we're currently being served up is very tasty fare!
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 22, 2017 15:22:35 GMT
Just got back home, watched the Charlton and Rotherham games. I didn't feel 'short changed' by ether result, a bit disappointed we didn't win one of them, yes, but the football we played made up for it. A team to be proud of? Yes, definitely, the swashbuckling confident way we went about things was brilliant to watch, and the odd slip up could and was quickly forgiven.
We're definitely moving in the right direction, on the field, and credit previous manager Mapp and his successor with us playing (At times) football of a higher level.
Long may it continue.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Oct 22, 2017 15:38:57 GMT
Just got back home, watched the Charlton and Rotherham games. I didn't feel 'short changed' by ether result, a bit disappointed we didn't win one of them, yes, but the football we played made up for it. A team to be proud of? Yes, definitely, the swashbuckling confident way we went about things was brilliant to watch, and the odd slip up could and was quickly forgiven. We're definitely moving in the right direction, on the field, and credit previous manager Mapp and his successor with us playing (At times) football of a higher level. Long may it continue. Only just got back?! Did some park in a gangway and block you in?
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Post by bicesterox on Oct 22, 2017 16:26:19 GMT
Sorry, the title if this thread is wrong.. the result will always matter. But I do think that the Football is so much more enjoyable than it has been many times over the years and the last 2 games have been very entertaining although we only have 2 points to show for it.
I've seen these 2 from a different position than I normally watch games and have been able to read the game better than I can from low down behind the goal.
I've seen more if what the players are trying to do, OK , it doesn't always come off but I appreciate it more, pity I'm back in the East Stand next game 😀
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 22, 2017 16:39:27 GMT
Just got back home, watched the Charlton and Rotherham games. I didn't feel 'short changed' by ether result, a bit disappointed we didn't win one of them, yes, but the football we played made up for it. A team to be proud of? Yes, definitely, the swashbuckling confident way we went about things was brilliant to watch, and the odd slip up could and was quickly forgiven. We're definitely moving in the right direction, on the field, and credit previous manager Mapp and his successor with us playing (At times) football of a higher level. Long may it continue. Only just got back?! Did some park in a gangway and block you in? Live up T North these days, was visiting relatives and supporting the Yellows!!
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 22, 2017 17:00:16 GMT
Live up T North these days, was visiting relatives and supporting the Yellows!! Love the irony! Quote from you the other day: Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26496/crowd-tonight?page=1#ixzz4wFykzmPsSo you 'actually support' Oxford when you're visiting relatives in Oxford and it's convenient for you, yet you try to claim the moral high ground over others who, like you most of the time, 'rarely attend'. You really should try thinking things through.
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Post by manorlounger on Oct 22, 2017 17:02:58 GMT
Conceding that equaliser in the manner that we did was not entertaining but the match as a whole was. That said, I want to be entertained and win! We, the Loungers, have always had the desire to treat games as away of relieving stress from our everyday life so scoring 3 goals is just the ticket, conceding 3 as we did, much less so.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Oct 22, 2017 20:19:57 GMT
Live up T North these days, was visiting relatives and supporting the Yellows!! Love the irony! Quote from you the other day: Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26496/crowd-tonight?page=1#ixzz4wFykzmPsSo you 'actually support' Oxford when you're visiting relatives in Oxford and it's convenient for you, yet you try to claim the moral high ground over others who, like you most of the time, 'rarely attend'. You really should try thinking things through. Interesting points Pete. As an exile I rarely attend and will be making my 2nd game this vs Northampton. I am however a Sat holder so what do I fall under? This isn’t a dig by the way.
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 22, 2017 21:05:42 GMT
Live up T North these days, was visiting relatives and supporting the Yellows!! Love the irony! Quote from you the other day: Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26496/crowd-tonight?page=1#ixzz4wFykzmPsSo you 'actually support' Oxford when you're visiting relatives in Oxford and it's convenient for you, yet you try to claim the moral high ground over others who, like you most of the time, 'rarely attend'. You really should try thinking things through. .... Season ticket holder at present, and for many of my 50 years supporting the club. Done my bit, and still will continue to do so. How's your armchair wearing?
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Post by Toeby on Oct 22, 2017 21:28:30 GMT
Love the irony! Quote from you the other day: Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26496/crowd-tonight?page=1#ixzz4wFykzmPsSo you 'actually support' Oxford when you're visiting relatives in Oxford and it's convenient for you, yet you try to claim the moral high ground over others who, like you most of the time, 'rarely attend'. You really should try thinking things through. Interesting points Pete. As an exile I rarely attend and will be making my 2nd game this vs Northampton. I am however a Sat holder so what do I fall under? This isn’t a dig by the way. I think that makes you a part timer, which sounds bad but it's a step up from a plastic. They only come to Wembley matches.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 22, 2017 21:55:03 GMT
Love the irony! Quote from you the other day: Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26496/crowd-tonight?page=1#ixzz4wFykzmPsSo you 'actually support' Oxford when you're visiting relatives in Oxford and it's convenient for you, yet you try to claim the moral high ground over others who, like you most of the time, 'rarely attend'. You really should try thinking things through. .... Season ticket holder at present, and for many of my 50 years supporting the club. Done my bit, and still will continue to do so. How's your armchair wearing? It's wearing a bit thin, to be honest, but in the absence of the financial resources to either buy a season ticket (that will barely be used) or travel to matches in person, or buy a new chair I have no choice but to continue sitting in it. I do admire you though for being able to find the cash to support the club without the necessity of actually attending matches. Your pound notes must inspire the team in a way that 8,000 attending voices could never hope to achieve. Well done you.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 22, 2017 21:56:31 GMT
Love the irony! Quote from you the other day: Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26496/crowd-tonight?page=1#ixzz4wFykzmPsSo you 'actually support' Oxford when you're visiting relatives in Oxford and it's convenient for you, yet you try to claim the moral high ground over others who, like you most of the time, 'rarely attend'. You really should try thinking things through. Interesting points Pete. As an exile I rarely attend and will be making my 2nd game this vs Northampton. I am however a Sat holder so what do I fall under? This isn’t a dig by the way. I'm not really in charge of supporter categories, but your position seems admirable. Strange though, I was always under the impression you were quite close to the club? My mistake, obviously.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Oct 22, 2017 22:59:29 GMT
Interesting points Pete. As an exile I rarely attend and will be making my 2nd game this vs Northampton. I am however a Sat holder so what do I fall under? This isn’t a dig by the way. I'm not really in charge of supporter categories, but your position seems admirable. Strange though, I was always under the impression you were quite close to the club? My mistake, obviously. In what way did you think I was close to the club?
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 23, 2017 7:22:51 GMT
.... Season ticket holder at present, and for many of my 50 years supporting the club. Done my bit, and still will continue to do so. How's your armchair wearing? It's wearing a bit thin, to be honest, but in the absence of the financial resources to either buy a season ticket (that will barely be used) or travel to matches in person, or buy a new chair I have no choice but to continue sitting in it. I do admire you though for being able to find the cash to support the club without the necessity of actually attending matches. Your pound notes must inspire the team in a way that 8,000 attending voices could never hope to achieve. Well done you. 'Support' comes in different guises, my buying of merchandise occasionally and a season ticket is my way of continuing to support the club - and I believe many do similar, because they want to keep that connection. I don't expect people like you to understand, you're obviously trolling on this forum and on your own admission you 'rarely if at all attend matches, involving OUFC, wrong forum for you old boy.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 23, 2017 7:40:06 GMT
It's wearing a bit thin, to be honest, but in the absence of the financial resources to either buy a season ticket (that will barely be used) or travel to matches in person, or buy a new chair I have no choice but to continue sitting in it. I do admire you though for being able to find the cash to support the club without the necessity of actually attending matches. Your pound notes must inspire the team in a way that 8,000 attending voices could never hope to achieve. Well done you. 'Support' comes in different guises, my buying of merchandise occasionally and a season ticket is my way of continuing to support the club - and I believe many do similar, because they want to keep that connection. I don't expect people like you to understand, you're obviously trolling on this forum and on your own admission you 'rarely if at all attend matches, involving OUFC, wrong forum for you old boy. Firstly, look up ‘trolling’ and educate yourself. Support does indeed come in many forms, and you’re obviously a die hard who deserves our respect, nay, adulation. Just out of interest, you seem rather obsessed by the fact that I now rarely attend matches, so how often do you see your team play live, other than when you happen to be in Oxford anyway? Would it be hardly at all, perchance?
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Post by pooshooter on Oct 23, 2017 8:27:34 GMT
So you'd be happy losing as long as we play well? Surely winning when not playing well is the way forward? As long as I get a cuddle in bed from Mrs P thesedays I'm a happy man.
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Post by eighteen93 on Oct 23, 2017 8:31:26 GMT
I am going to stick up for mcf86 - he ( I believe now lives in the North East) does get to some away games and I am sure attends a handful of home games each season as he has family in Oxford. He is a long standing supporter, still calls in to Radio Oxford now and again, Oxford Mail correspondent for many years and been on the OxVox committee etc etc.
It’s a great thing that he buys a season ticket and puts his hard earned into his home town club. He’s a fan, a supporter and a good bloke!
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 23, 2017 8:39:49 GMT
I am going to stick up for mcf86 - he ( I believe now lives in the North East) does get to some away games and I am sure attends a handful of of home games each season as he has family in Oxford. He is a long standing supporter, still calls in to Radio Oxford now and again, Oxford Mail correspondent for many years and been on the OxVox committee etc etc. It’s a great thing that he buys a season ticket and puts his hard earned into his home town club. He’s a fan, a supporter and a good bloke! I don't doubt any of your references, but how good a bloke mcf86 is or how he interacts with the press remains irrelevant. I hardly attend matches anymore, maybe five each season. I'm happy with that but mcf86 decided to infer it made my support less valid. That's why this spat started and continues. It's pointlessly divisive to try to categorise supporters based on mileage covered, money spent or matches attended. I believe most fans accept that different people do what they can to support OUFC in their own way. Why can't we just leave it at that?
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 23, 2017 8:50:13 GMT
'Support' comes in different guises, my buying of merchandise occasionally and a season ticket is my way of continuing to support the club - and I believe many do similar, because they want to keep that connection. I don't expect people like you to understand, you're obviously trolling on this forum and on your own admission you 'rarely if at all attend matches, involving OUFC, wrong forum for you old boy. **Firstly, look up ‘trolling’ and educate yourself. Support does indeed come in many forms, and you’re obviously a die hard who deserves our respect, nay, adulation. Just out of interest, how often do you see your team play live, other than when you happen to be in Oxford? Would it be hardly at all, perchance? Last season I saw around 15 home matches, and about 8 away, so far this season, I have seen all home matches bar Bradford, and been to Blackpool, would have been more but due to ill health of a family member it wasn't possible. A trip back to Oxford from Durham takes around 5 hours with a couple of stops, and anyone of a certain age will know what it's like physically- cramped up that long in a motor. Plus, add on expenses like fuel,food and drink etc it all also adds up financially. Is that 'hardly at all' in your world? **Several versions online, depends which one 'you' think applicable. Lets just say I think you frequent this forum for reasons other than to debate or concur over all things that involve OUFC, unless you see the opportunity to flex your cyber bully muscles. Not looking for 'adulation' or respect for that matter, just enjoy supporting 'my' team, all ways have and will always do so, OTID and all that.
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 23, 2017 8:54:14 GMT
I am going to stick up for mcf86 - he ( I believe now lives in the North East) does get to some away games and I am sure attends a handful of home games each season as he has family in Oxford. He is a long standing supporter, still calls in to Radio Oxford now and again, Oxford Mail correspondent for many years and been on the OxVox committee etc etc. It’s a great thing that he buys a season ticket and puts his hard earned into his home town club. He’s a fan, a supporter and a good bloke! Cheers mate, as agreed, I'll get the beers in if in the unlikelihood I'm next at a Yellows match!!
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Post by bigronaldo on Oct 23, 2017 10:04:59 GMT
Ffs, get a room you two. I love the football we are serving up. Clotet must feel he has landed right on his feet here and we are unquestionably a better side than last year. As for winning, that must be factored in to the fabric of it, or the whole ethos will fall apart. Goals = success.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 23, 2017 10:07:15 GMT
Quite. Myself and mcf86 have actually corresponded and made the (rather mature, I hope) decision to bury the hatchet. And not in each other's heads, before you ask.
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Post by paulbeasley on Oct 23, 2017 12:01:32 GMT
Quite. Myself and mcf86 have actually corresponded and made the (rather mature, I hope) decision to bury the hatchet. And not in each other's heads, before you ask. Pleased to hear that.
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