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Post by horseman on Oct 2, 2017 11:37:59 GMT
Firstly Many Thanks to Eaststandboy for allowing The Service to be mentioned on here. if you like a bet and would like to receive Genuine Information Direct from Proven Sources involving on average 6/8 bets per month then LMR Racing Consultants are offering a 20% Discount "Exclusive" for Yellows Forum Members. lmrracingconsultants.co.uk/extra-special-membership/4 Winners from 7 in September including a 12/1 winner that had not run for over 450 Days and a 23 Lengths Debut Winner
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 2, 2017 15:10:39 GMT
that's not that great tbh.
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Post by horseman on Oct 2, 2017 17:28:31 GMT
that's not that great tbh. Interesting comment care to qualify? 2017 Roi is 66% You wont get that from the Banks
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 2, 2017 17:38:28 GMT
that's not that great tbh. Interesting comment care to qualify? 2017 Roi is 66% You wont get that from the Banks of 100 pound stakes you made 7k so basically for most normally people they would only be making 700 quid on 10 stakes its not very good and you charge people to join your scam. shameful.
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Post by horseman on Oct 2, 2017 18:26:34 GMT
Interesting comment care to qualify? 2017 Roi is 66% You wont get that from the Banks of 100 pound stakes you made 7k so basically for most normally people they would only be making 700 quid on 10 stakes its not very good and you charge people to join your scam. shameful. Oh Dear !!
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Post by stokeu on Oct 2, 2017 19:03:52 GMT
williammuir (banned) (or the OP) I'll bite then. I hardly ever gamble and never on horses PM me 3 tips, I'll stick a tenner on each and we'll see how good you are
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 2, 2017 19:13:34 GMT
williammuir (banned) (or the OP) I'll bite then. I hardly ever gamble and never on horses PM me 3 tips, I'll stick a tenner on each and we'll see how good you are i'll send you every time i'm backing something I'm not backing tomorrow as nothing is in my system.
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 2, 2017 19:18:38 GMT
williammuir (banned) (or the OP) I'll bite then. I hardly ever gamble and never on horses PM me 3 tips, I'll stick a tenner on each and we'll see how good you are two i'm interested in but not sure how they'll do tomorrow are: 17:25 Sky Of Stars 21:10 Missguided (each way) like i said only interest bet for me but look interesting and I'm going to be tracking that missguided
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Post by horseman on Oct 3, 2017 10:32:21 GMT
Just for clarification after the remarks made by a poster...Thankfully there are very stringent Rules and Guidelines in place for Racing Tipster Services...Selections have been sent to various companies, A well known Professional Punter, a Media Company and are independently verified with Email sent Daily whether a selection or not.
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Post by m on Oct 3, 2017 11:07:25 GMT
williammuir (banned) (or the OP) I'll bite then. I hardly ever gamble and never on horses PM me 3 tips, I'll stick a tenner on each and we'll see how good you are two i'm interested in but not sure how they'll do tomorrow are: 17:25 Sky Of Stars 21:10 Missguided (each way) like i said only interest bet for me but look interesting and I'm going to be tracking that missguided Just for interest....not so you can distance yourself from your tips or anything?
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Post by telforddave on Oct 3, 2017 11:50:50 GMT
I'd never pay (or recommend anyone else to pay) for tipping services. If you want to bet on horses you should watch races and form your own opinions using the wealth of free information available. No different to betting on football. Study the form, take various other relevant information in to account and bet on your own terms and take responsibility for your own bets.
Why pay people a fee for tips when you can study yourself and create your own systems if desired.
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Post by horseman on Oct 3, 2017 12:35:30 GMT
I'd never pay (or recommend anyone else to pay) for tipping services. If you want to bet on horses you should watch races and form your own opinions using the wealth of free information available. No different to betting on football. Study the form, take various other relevant information in to account and bet on your own terms and take responsibility for your own bets. Why pay people a fee for tips when you can study yourself and create your own systems if desired. Very Valid points and advice which i echo to a certain extent but what i would say is very few people have the time or knowledge required to do the job properly. it is no easy task returning a long term profit from betting in any form, how long does it take to test a system or method? most people by nature would give up after a losing run which no matter how good you are will always occur and you have to be able to treat each result with equanimity. if you can find a proven source of finding profitable Long Term Winners and have the time Patience, Discipline and Good Money Management then you have a chance.
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Post by joey on Oct 3, 2017 14:27:58 GMT
I'd never pay (or recommend anyone else to pay) for tipping services. If you want to bet on horses you should watch races and form your own opinions using the wealth of free information available. No different to betting on football. Study the form, take various other relevant information in to account and bet on your own terms and take responsibility for your own bets. Why pay people a fee for tips when you can study yourself and create your own systems if desired. Interesting topic this. In an ideal world I would agree with you but I think time is the issue for most people with that. To have long term success you must have to sink a lot of time into it studying form, watching races, working out a system and attending meetings etc which most people can't do. I've actually just started paying for tips which is something I haven't done before and never thought I would but it's going pretty well. Started off quite poorly but anyone who gambles knows there will be losing runs, overall in the 2 weeks I've been doing it the winnings have more than covered the amount I paid for tips and I get them for another two and a half months. I work full time as I suspect most do and wouldn't have the time to find these myself, it takes about 5 minutes in the evening before or morning of the racing to stick the bets on and then I'm done, if it continues to make money I won't be complaining! Just had the winner at Southwell that went off at 10/1, that alone would cover the rest of my bets for the day so I think there is value in it if you find the right tipster for you.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 3, 2017 14:47:04 GMT
To have long term success you must have to sink a lot of time into it studying form, watching races, working out a system and attending meetings etc which most people can't do. This caught my attention. One of my brothers-in-law has always been into horse racing, and betting on it. A couple of years ago he decided to try to become a professional gambler, giving up the insurance brokerage he owned and spending many, many hours at the British Library (I think it was) reading past issues of the Racing Post, researching the form of hundreds of horses over many years and compiling complicated spreadsheets and algorithms. He then started betting based on his research. I can't remember exactly HOW he bet - I'm not interested in the subject - but it wasn't conventional, i.e. betting to win. He was reasonably successful, winning more cash than he lost, but couldn't build up a big enough pot of cash to put on the 'big bets' that would give him the chance to win significant amounts to give him a comfortable income. Some people say you can't beat the bookies, and I suppose he didn't at the end of the day as he's now back in other employment, but he was ahead of the game for a while, albeit not at the heights he wanted.
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Post by joey on Oct 3, 2017 15:00:40 GMT
To have long term success you must have to sink a lot of time into it studying form, watching races, working out a system and attending meetings etc which most people can't do. This caught my attention. One of my brothers-in-law has always been into horse racing, and betting on it. A couple of years ago he decided to try to become a professional gambler, giving up the insurance brokerage he owned and spending many, many hours at the British Library (I think it was) reading past issues of the Racing Post, researching the form of hundreds of horses over many years and compiling complicated spreadsheets and algorithms. He then started betting based on his research. I can't remember exactly HOW he bet - I'm not interested in the subject - but it wasn't conventional, i.e. betting to win. He was reasonably successful, winning more cash than he lost, but couldn't build up a big enough pot of cash to put on the 'big bets' that would give him the chance to win significant amounts to give him a comfortable income. Some people say you can't beat the bookies, and I suppose he didn't at the end of the day as he's now back in other employment, but he was ahead of the game for a while, albeit not at the heights he wanted. I think doing it full time is probably pretty tricky. It's not happened to me but bookies have the right to close your account/not take bets from you/only offer you reduced stakes. Once this has happened in a few places it must make it even harder to make money, either put on a portion of what you wanted to or accept worse odds elsewhere and eat into your profit if it's a winner. I've got about 15 accounts with online bookies so I can spread them around a bit but the best odds tend to come from just four or five of them, I'm hoping they won't be too concerned with seeing me betting £10/15 per horse although if this week goes well I'm planning on increasing my stake size next week.
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Post by horseman on Oct 3, 2017 15:11:27 GMT
This caught my attention. One of my brothers-in-law has always been into horse racing, and betting on it. A couple of years ago he decided to try to become a professional gambler, giving up the insurance brokerage he owned and spending many, many hours at the British Library (I think it was) reading past issues of the Racing Post, researching the form of hundreds of horses over many years and compiling complicated spreadsheets and algorithms. He then started betting based on his research. I can't remember exactly HOW he bet - I'm not interested in the subject - but it wasn't conventional, i.e. betting to win. He was reasonably successful, winning more cash than he lost, but couldn't build up a big enough pot of cash to put on the 'big bets' that would give him the chance to win significant amounts to give him a comfortable income. Some people say you can't beat the bookies, and I suppose he didn't at the end of the day as he's now back in other employment, but he was ahead of the game for a while, albeit not at the heights he wanted. I think doing it full time is probably pretty tricky. It's not happened to me but bookies have the right to close your account/not take bets from you/only offer you reduced stakes. Once this has happened in a few places it must make it even harder to make money, either put on a portion of what you wanted to or accept worse odds elsewhere and eat into your profit if it's a winner. I've got about 15 accounts with online bookies so I can spread them around a bit but the best odds tend to come from just four or five of them, I'm hoping they won't be too concerned with seeing me betting £10/15 per horse although if this week goes well I'm planning on increasing my stake size next week. With the greatest of respect that is a very dangerous game after such a small sample of bets
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Post by joey on Oct 3, 2017 15:22:53 GMT
I think doing it full time is probably pretty tricky. It's not happened to me but bookies have the right to close your account/not take bets from you/only offer you reduced stakes. Once this has happened in a few places it must make it even harder to make money, either put on a portion of what you wanted to or accept worse odds elsewhere and eat into your profit if it's a winner. I've got about 15 accounts with online bookies so I can spread them around a bit but the best odds tend to come from just four or five of them, I'm hoping they won't be too concerned with seeing me betting £10/15 per horse although if this week goes well I'm planning on increasing my stake size next week. With the greatest of respect that is a very dangerous game after such a small sample of bets I'm only talking a few quid extra, I certainly won't be doubling it or anything like that. Similar to LMR these tips have been proofed over a decent period of time and shown to be profitable. No guarantees of course but my betting bank was set up to cover big losses, even at higher stakes I'd be betting just under 1% of the bank per tip which I'm comfortable with.
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 3, 2017 15:29:01 GMT
Horseman stop acting like your Harry Findlay
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Post by horseman on Oct 3, 2017 16:07:10 GMT
Horseman stop acting like your Harry Findlay It's a forum where opinions will differ, i pointed out the dangers of increasing stakes after a small sample of bets, Joey "Politely" informed how his betting Bank is well protected so he and i are on the same page..if i was new to the sport i would have found that useful and some might say helpful. You have stated you don't agree with people paying for tips and your opinion is respected, don't see the need to keep making it personal.
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 3, 2017 16:13:19 GMT
Horseman stop acting like your Harry Findlay It's a forum where opinions will differ, i pointed out the dangers of increasing stakes after a small sample of bets, Joey "Politely" informed how his betting Bank is well protected so he and i are on the same page..if i was new to the sport i would have found that useful and some might say helpful. You have stated you don't agree with people paying for tips and your opinion is respected, don't see the need to keep making it personal. do you know who harry findlay is?
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 3, 2017 16:32:50 GMT
unlucky came 3rd.
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Post by horseman on Oct 5, 2017 7:10:16 GMT
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Post by stokeu on Oct 13, 2017 19:06:00 GMT
williammuir (banned) (or the OP) I'll bite then. I hardly ever gamble and never on horses PM me 3 tips, I'll stick a tenner on each and we'll see how good you are i'll send you every time i'm backing something I'm not backing tomorrow as nothing is in my system. Heard nothing yet
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Post by williammuir (banned) on Oct 13, 2017 19:12:29 GMT
i'll send you every time i'm backing something I'm not backing tomorrow as nothing is in my system. Heard nothing yet yes i haven't had anything yet in my system i'll let you know when i do.
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Post by horseman on Oct 27, 2017 10:21:08 GMT
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