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Post by foley on Aug 17, 2017 14:46:59 GMT
Nelson is a very good player, I don't think anyone disputes that. He's looked solid in every game I've seen him play in, was probably still a 6/10 vs Cheltenhem when others let him down. He also looks extremely comfortable against class strikers, eg. Wood at Leeds in pre-season barely had a sniff of goal, handled Mitrovic well vs Newcastle. He will leave soon, but his quality (defensive+ball at feet) plus the fact he's currently captain makes me think we'd get a big fee for him, probably around the 5mil mark. Still got potential to improve, so a decent sell on percentage is also a must. I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility?
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Post by Kris Grebis on Aug 17, 2017 15:12:05 GMT
Nelson is a very good player, I don't think anyone disputes that. He's looked solid in every game I've seen him play in, was probably still a 6/10 vs Cheltenhem when others let him down. He also looks extremely comfortable against class strikers, eg. Wood at Leeds in pre-season barely had a sniff of goal, handled Mitrovic well vs Newcastle. He will leave soon, but his quality (defensive+ball at feet) plus the fact he's currently captain makes me think we'd get a big fee for him, probably around the 5mil mark. Still got potential to improve, so a decent sell on percentage is also a must. I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility? £5 Million for a centre half whose never played above League 1, absolute crazy talk
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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 17, 2017 15:25:04 GMT
I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility? £5 Million for a centre half whose never played above League 1, absolute crazy talk £198m for any player, absolutely crazy. Leeds wanting £20m for Chris Wood, Hull paying £7.5m for Kevin Stewart from Liverpool both absolutely crazy.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 17, 2017 15:36:54 GMT
Well he's ours if fishy Fleetwood want him have their owner got a minimum 3 million to be paid immediately they must always be close they breaching The ffp. There may have been interest in Nelson they've been told no and that's that. Now let's move on
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 17, 2017 15:38:10 GMT
I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility? £5 Million for a centre half whose never played above League 1, absolute crazy talk Did u miss the post where I said Swansea paid £5.5 million for Alfie Mawson, who played 4 games above l1 with less experience than Nelson. Not that crazy talk
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 17, 2017 16:01:37 GMT
I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility? £5 Million for a centre half whose never played above League 1, absolute crazy talk absolutely crazy? Yes but if you don't want to sell then ask for an absolute crazy price if the other club is willing to pay then I'm sure with 5 million we could get a quality defender and still have plenty of change
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Post by gingerox on Aug 17, 2017 16:31:14 GMT
Nelson is a very good player, I don't think anyone disputes that. He's looked solid in every game I've seen him play in, was probably still a 6/10 vs Cheltenhem when others let him down. He also looks extremely comfortable against class strikers, eg. Wood at Leeds in pre-season barely had a sniff of goal, handled Mitrovic well vs Newcastle. He will leave soon, but his quality (defensive+ball at feet) plus the fact he's currently captain makes me think we'd get a big fee for him, probably around the 5mil mark. Still got potential to improve, so a decent sell on percentage is also a must. I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility? I agree it's a lot, but I think we should try to get around the mark. Young enough to improve, English, currently captain as well as having filled the role at other clubs, market currently ridiculous, proven against quality opposition, under contract for a couple of years still. I don't think I'd be saying the same figure just a year ago, but we should try to take advantage.
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Post by ovaltoyou on Aug 17, 2017 16:38:18 GMT
Look out Mr Wilder is wanting another defender after Richard Stearman injury!
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Post by behindthegoal on Aug 17, 2017 16:39:20 GMT
I would think that he will probably stay for this season and then go (he is Captain and it will do him no harm playing a second year here hopefully in a promotion chasing team). When he does go he will be worth a fair amount I would think. Young with a wealth of experience, having been captain at 2 clubs and being a real footballing centre back. £5M would be an awful lot, and I certainly think that in the current market he has to be worth £3M plus a sell on clause as a minimum? Maybe £5M would be a possibility? £5 Million for a centre half whose never played above League 1, absolute crazy talk Crazy is what it is these days.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Aug 17, 2017 16:55:10 GMT
But regardless, we didn't pick them up for next to nothing.
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Post by osleroad on Aug 17, 2017 17:11:07 GMT
Look out Mr Wilder is wanting another defender after Richard Stearman injury! Why should he worry..he already has Jake Wright:-)
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Post by ttg17 on Aug 17, 2017 17:11:56 GMT
Nelson will learn so much playing alongside Williamson for a year. We also look, early doors, like one of the best teams in the division. Can't see him moving this summer - his stock will only go up over the next 12 months.
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Post by grenobleroad on Aug 17, 2017 17:16:45 GMT
Didn't ledson, lundstram and roofe turn down deals at their clubs to sign for us? All of them younger than 24 years old at the time we signed them. Yeah fair point, assume it was minimal as we didn't hear anything about a tribunal.
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Post by 06russ on Aug 17, 2017 17:30:20 GMT
All of them younger than 24 years old at the time we signed them. Yeah fair point, assume it was minimal as we didn't hear anything about a tribunal. Pretty sure we paid over £200,000 for Nelson.
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Post by oxfordboy on Aug 17, 2017 17:33:41 GMT
Nelson will learn so much playing alongside Williamson for a year. We also look, early doors, like one of the best teams in the division. Can't see him moving this summer - his stock will only go up over the next 12 months. Only slightly related but having just watched Williamson on Ifollow I cannot believe it's the same bloke who's marshalling the defence and giving everyone an earfull, very well spoken and has a really soft voice
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 17, 2017 17:33:54 GMT
All of them younger than 24 years old at the time we signed them. Yeah fair point, assume it was minimal as we didn't hear anything about a tribunal. Doesn't mean it's minimal not to go to tribunal, just mean both clubs agreed a fee they were happy with. The money wba got for roofe was agreed up front, rothwell and lego were both offered deals meaning that they are entitled to compo, both were agreed without having to go to tribunal. Lunny I'm not sure, I don't think Everton offered him a new deal, so wouldn't be entitled to compo.
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Post by grenobleroad on Aug 17, 2017 17:34:33 GMT
Yeah fair point, assume it was minimal as we didn't hear anything about a tribunal. Pretty sure we paid over £200,000 for Nelson. We did, was referring too ledson, roofe & lundstram.
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Post by grenobleroad on Aug 17, 2017 17:35:39 GMT
Yeah fair point, assume it was minimal as we didn't hear anything about a tribunal. Doesn't mean it's minimal not to go to tribunal, just mean both clubs agreed a fee they were happy with. The money wba got for roofe was agreed up front, rothwell and lego were both offered deals meaning that they are entitled to compo, both were agreed without having to go to tribunal. Lunny I'm not sure, I don't think Everton offered him a new deal, so wouldn't be entitled to compo. Well less then 200k then. Nelson was a bargin considering the amount of games he had played before joining us at that age.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 17, 2017 17:38:19 GMT
Doesn't mean it's minimal not to go to tribunal, just mean both clubs agreed a fee they were happy with. The money wba got for roofe was agreed up front, rothwell and lego were both offered deals meaning that they are entitled to compo, both were agreed without having to go to tribunal. Lunny I'm not sure, I don't think Everton offered him a new deal, so wouldn't be entitled to compo. Well less then 200k then. Nelson was a bargin considering the amount of games he had played before joining us at that age. Totally, and by all account wanted by clubs at a higher level at the same time. Great we could attract him. Like I said I think we could look for similar to Mawson, only 1 year difference in age, but Mawson does seem to have a habit of scoring more
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Post by taffyewe on Aug 17, 2017 20:06:56 GMT
Yeah fair point, assume it was minimal as we didn't hear anything about a tribunal. Pretty sure we paid over £200,000 for Nelson. With a sell on clause I am sure.
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Post by yellowsubmarine on Aug 17, 2017 20:48:36 GMT
Can't remember what we paid for Nelson but Eales definitely came out and said the price set by the tribunal was more than he was expecting. Looks like a bargain now though!
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Post by lukehudson on Aug 17, 2017 20:50:43 GMT
280,000 with Plymouth getting 20% sell on fee
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Post by Cardiff Yellow on Aug 18, 2017 10:52:16 GMT
Lundstram was a free agent.
Roofe was becoming a free agent but was under 24 so we "agreed a fee" with West Brom in advanced of his contract expiry to beat others to his signing.
Ledson was an undisclosed fee, probably 200k or so.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Aug 18, 2017 10:55:15 GMT
Lundstram was a free agent. Roofe was becoming a free agent but was under 24 so we "agreed a fee" with West Brom in advanced of his contract expiry to beat others to his signing. Ledson was an undisclosed fee, probably 200k or so. Hi, just out of interest, is the 200k for Ledson a guess or is it based on inside knowledge?
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Post by Cardiff Yellow on Aug 18, 2017 11:29:37 GMT
Lundstram was a free agent. Roofe was becoming a free agent but was under 24 so we "agreed a fee" with West Brom in advanced of his contract expiry to beat others to his signing. Ledson was an undisclosed fee, probably 200k or so. Hi, just out of interest, is the 200k for Ledson a guess or is it based on inside knowledge? Educated estimate, based on the fact that Everton had no need or particular desire to sell, and the player was still under contract with them. Plus a sell-on % and possible add-ons like promotion I guess.
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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 18, 2017 11:40:34 GMT
Lundstram was a free agent. Roofe was becoming a free agent but was under 24 so we "agreed a fee" with West Brom in advanced of his contract expiry to beat others to his signing. Ledson was an undisclosed fee, probably 200k or so. Didn't West Brom have a year option on Roofe which is why we agreed a fee so wouldn't have been a free agent until the following season?
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 18, 2017 21:33:32 GMT
I thought Ledson was a 5 figure sum because Everton wanted rid of him?
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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 20, 2017 12:31:09 GMT
I thought Ledson was a 5 figure sum because Everton wanted rid of him? I thought he asked to leave Everton because he wanted 1st team Football permanently rather than a loan.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 20, 2017 12:47:30 GMT
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Post by brassmonkey on Sept 2, 2017 21:14:49 GMT
Did Blackburn put in a bid for nelson on deadline day?
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