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Post by londonroader on Apr 30, 2017 17:58:45 GMT
Lets wait until we see if we have a new owner or manager before we raise or lower our expectations of players coming in, could be an interesting few months all round. I'm not in the know but I get the feeling that Appleton is putting a little bit of pressure Eales. Mapp is very diplomatic in his interviews but also quite clever. Budget, Pitch And Training Facilities are all very important to Appleton. Reference is often made to a competitive budget in what will be a very competitive league next season, probably more difficult than this season. As far as budgets go we'll be competing with Wigan, Rotherham and Birmingham/Blackburn as well as Plymouth, Portsmouth, B Rovers, MK Dons plus whoever doesn't get promoted from the play offs. A top ten budget is not guaranteed. Mapp is obviously not happy with the state of the pitch, it was mentioned again today. Decent training facilities are also high on Appleton's list of priorities, I'm not sure of the current situation but seem to remember that there is a period of time from when we leave BMW until Court Place Farm is ready, not Ideal. In my view if the club wish to retain Appleton all these issues need to be resolved to his liking. Yes all that makes sense and if we are to keep Michael let's hope Daryl or any new owners meet his expectations if we are to keep him.
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Post by ag on Apr 30, 2017 18:08:26 GMT
I'm not in the know but I get the feeling that Appleton is putting a little bit of pressure Eales. Mapp is very diplomatic in his interviews but also quite clever. Budget, Pitch And Training Facilities are all very important to Appleton. Reference is often made to a competitive budget in what will be a very competitive league next season, probably more difficult than this season. As far as budgets go we'll be competing with Wigan, Rotherham and Birmingham/Blackburn as well as Plymouth, Portsmouth, B Rovers, MK Dons plus whoever doesn't get promoted from the play offs. A top ten budget is not guaranteed. Mapp is obviously not happy with the state of the pitch, it was mentioned again today. Decent training facilities are also high on Appleton's list of priorities, I'm not sure of the current situation but seem to remember that there is a period of time from when we leave BMW until Court Place Farm is ready, not Ideal. In my view if the club wish to retain Appleton all these issues need to be resolved to his liking. Yes all that makes sense and if we are to keep Michael let's hope Daryl or any new owners meet his expectations if we are to keep him. Should no deal be done with our landlord re ownership of the stadium what plans if any exist to pressurise re the quality of the pitch.
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Post by lukehudson on Apr 30, 2017 18:11:41 GMT
Antonee Roibinson, Devante Cole, Conor McAleney, Rohan Ince, Reece Wabara, Aaron Pierre, Cameron McGheehan, Ryan Williams. All out of contract would not mind a few of those.
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 30, 2017 18:13:57 GMT
Yes all that makes sense and if we are to keep Michael let's hope Daryl or any new owners meet his expectations if we are to keep him. Should no deal be done with our landlord re ownership of the stadium what plans if any exist to pressurise re the quality of the pitch. Darryl said in the Facebook forum that the pitch is being relaid/reseeded in the summer, mistakes were made in the prep/maintenance last preseason and it wouldn't happen again
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Post by londonroader on Apr 30, 2017 19:21:24 GMT
Yes all that makes sense and if we are to keep Michael let's hope Daryl or any new owners meet his expectations if we are to keep him. Should no deal be done with our landlord re ownership of the stadium what plans if any exist to pressurise re the quality of the pitch. No idea, but one step at a time, who knows if any new prospective owner might be able to build a relationship with the stadium owner.
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Post by My Manor on Apr 30, 2017 19:50:52 GMT
Should no deal be done with our landlord re ownership of the stadium what plans if any exist to pressurise re the quality of the pitch. No idea, but one step at a time, who knows if any new prospective owner might be able to build a relationship with the stadium owner. We'll see? He's far more slippery than are current owner!!
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Post by MJB on Apr 30, 2017 20:51:29 GMT
Should no deal be done with our landlord re ownership of the stadium what plans if any exist to pressurise re the quality of the pitch. No idea, but one step at a time, who knows if any new prospective owner might be able to build a relationship with the stadium owner. Do you know something, or just hypothesising? The ownership rumours have gone very cold (although that's often a signal of calm before the storm of course!)
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Post by socrates on Apr 30, 2017 22:45:38 GMT
Lets wait until we see if we have a new owner or manager before we raise or lower our expectations of players coming in, could be an interesting few months all round. I'm not in the know but I get the feeling that Appleton is putting a little bit of pressure Eales. Mapp is very diplomatic in his interviews but also quite clever. Budget, Pitch And Training Facilities are all very important to Appleton. Reference is often made to a competitive budget in what will be a very competitive league next season, probably more difficult than this season. As far as budgets go we'll be competing with Wigan, Rotherham and Birmingham/Blackburn as well as Plymouth, Portsmouth, B Rovers, MK Dons plus whoever doesn't get promoted from the play offs. A top ten budget is not guaranteed. Mapp is obviously not happy with the state of the pitch, it was mentioned again today. Decent training facilities are also high on Appleton's list of priorities, I'm not sure of the current situation but seem to remember that there is a period of time from when we leave BMW until Court Place Farm is ready, not Ideal. In my view if the club wish to retain Appleton all these issues need to be resolved to his liking. Said it before, but I wonder if Mapp was to do his due diligence on our club now, whether he would come at all. No ground, no training ground, poor pitch, owner who has personal issues From his interviews since the Jan window he had been uncharacteristically doubtful aboiut next season's budget. I think he even said 'well, we'll wait and see' after being asked about DE saying he'd increase it. I'm not having a pop at DE but it must be hugeley frustrating for Mapp that we were so close to the play-offs. Had we kept Taylor and Macca in Jan AND signed Martinez and McAleny I do not doubt we would have made it. Not because Taylor and Macca were great players - this isn't a 'we should never have let them go' arguement - but because they would have given players a breather when we were really struggling. If I was to have a guess at his private thoughts I'd say Mapp might think he's taken us as far as he can...
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Post by lukehudson on Apr 30, 2017 23:09:54 GMT
I'm not in the know but I get the feeling that Appleton is putting a little bit of pressure Eales. Mapp is very diplomatic in his interviews but also quite clever. Budget, Pitch And Training Facilities are all very important to Appleton. Reference is often made to a competitive budget in what will be a very competitive league next season, probably more difficult than this season. As far as budgets go we'll be competing with Wigan, Rotherham and Birmingham/Blackburn as well as Plymouth, Portsmouth, B Rovers, MK Dons plus whoever doesn't get promoted from the play offs. A top ten budget is not guaranteed. Mapp is obviously not happy with the state of the pitch, it was mentioned again today. Decent training facilities are also high on Appleton's list of priorities, I'm not sure of the current situation but seem to remember that there is a period of time from when we leave BMW until Court Place Farm is ready, not Ideal. In my view if the club wish to retain Appleton all these issues need to be resolved to his liking. Said it before, but I wonder if Mapp was to do his due diligence on our club now, whether he would come at all. No ground, no training ground, poor pitch, owner who has personal issues From his interviews since the Jan window he had been uncharacteristically doubtful aboiut next season's budget. I think he even said 'well, we'll wait and see' after being asked about DE saying he'd increase it. I'm not having a pop at DE but it must be hugeley frustrating for Mapp that we were so close to the play-offs. Had we kept Taylor and Macca in Jan AND signed Martinez and McAleny I do not doubt we would have made it. Not because Taylor and Macca were great players - this isn't a 'we should never have let them go' arguement - but because they would have given players a breather when we were really struggling. If I was to have a guess at his private thoughts I'd say Mapp might think he's taken us as far as he can... What a load of sh!te
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Post by androidyellow2 on May 1, 2017 1:48:43 GMT
I just have this sneaking sneaking feeling Maguire and Johnson will stay
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Post by neville60 on May 1, 2017 3:20:16 GMT
Antonee Roibinson, Devante Cole, Conor McAleney, Rohan Ince, Reece Wabara, Aaron Pierre, Cameron McGheehan, Ryan Williams. All out of contract would not mind a few of those. Stuff it if you have the money, buy the lot. Can never be too greedy where OUFC is concerned 😊
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Post by outsidethebox on May 1, 2017 7:16:43 GMT
The South Stand Lower rumour mill was going strong yesterday. Some of it was a bit too disrespectful for my liking. However, the gist was that we will start next season with either a new owner or a new manager.
As for this season I think we have done well. The late departure of COD and Taylor going back on the gentleman's handshake put us in a difficult position early on. MApp has done well with what was a larger rebuild than I guess he anticipated.
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Post by uptheus on May 1, 2017 7:35:33 GMT
I just have this sneaking sneaking feeling Maguire and Johnson will stay Maguire might, but Johnson no, especially the way he played yesterday, hardly broke sweat.
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Post by Marked Ox on May 1, 2017 8:24:43 GMT
Lets wait until we see if we have a new owner or manager before we raise or lower our expectations of players coming in, could be an interesting few months all round. I'm not in the know but I get the feeling that Appleton is putting a little bit of pressure Eales. Mapp is very diplomatic in his interviews but also quite clever. Budget, Pitch And Training Facilities are all very important to Appleton. Reference is often made to a competitive budget in what will be a very competitive league next season, probably more difficult than this season. As far as budgets go we'll be competing with Wigan, Rotherham and Birmingham/Blackburn as well as Plymouth, Portsmouth, B Rovers, MK Dons plus whoever doesn't get promoted from the play offs. A top ten budget is not guaranteed. Mapp is obviously not happy with the state of the pitch, it was mentioned again today. Decent training facilities are also high on Appleton's list of priorities, I'm not sure of the current situation but seem to remember that there is a period of time from when we leave BMW until Court Place Farm is ready, not Ideal. In my view if the club wish to retain Appleton all these issues need to be resolved to his liking. I'm sure I've read somewhere DE is trying to negotiate with BMW to extend the time at the current site to cover the gap to moving to Court Place Farm (assuming that is confirmed).
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Post by RCYellowRC on May 1, 2017 9:23:48 GMT
I just have this sneaking sneaking feeling Maguire and Johnson will stay Maguire might, but Johnson no, especially the way he played yesterday, hardly broke sweat. It's interesting i think Maguire wants to stay but also wants to be with Family more. So maybe thats something he was indicating through his interview yesterday because we all knew the reason it took him so long last year was family. As for Johnson i think he's gone unfortunately we know teams higher up want him and there were scouts there yesterday looking at him and i think that showed in his performance. He seemed a bit self centered yesterday trying to be skillfull and shoot from silly areas. Don't get me wrong if we keep both it will be a great foundation for our attack to be built on but i can't see it happening.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 1, 2017 11:44:59 GMT
Charlie raglan was released yesterday. Give him a pen
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Post by tatabanya on May 1, 2017 12:10:48 GMT
I'm not in the know but I get the feeling that Appleton is putting a little bit of pressure Eales. Mapp is very diplomatic in his interviews but also quite clever. Budget, Pitch And Training Facilities are all very important to Appleton. Reference is often made to a competitive budget in what will be a very competitive league next season, probably more difficult than this season. As far as budgets go we'll be competing with Wigan, Rotherham and Birmingham/Blackburn as well as Plymouth, Portsmouth, B Rovers, MK Dons plus whoever doesn't get promoted from the play offs. A top ten budget is not guaranteed. Mapp is obviously not happy with the state of the pitch, it was mentioned again today. Decent training facilities are also high on Appleton's list of priorities, I'm not sure of the current situation but seem to remember that there is a period of time from when we leave BMW until Court Place Farm is ready, not Ideal. In my view if the club wish to retain Appleton all these issues need to be resolved to his liking. Said it before, but I wonder if Mapp was to do his due diligence on our club now, whether he would come at all. No ground, no training ground, poor pitch, owner who has personal issues From his interviews since the Jan window he had been uncharacteristically doubtful aboiut next season's budget. I think he even said 'well, we'll wait and see' after being asked about DE saying he'd increase it. I'm not having a pop at DE but it must be hugeley frustrating for Mapp that we were so close to the play-offs. Had we kept Taylor and Macca in Jan AND signed Martinez and McAleny I do not doubt we would have made it. Not because Taylor and Macca were great players - this isn't a 'we should never have let them go' arguement - but because they would have given players a breather when we were really struggling. If I was to have a guess at his private thoughts I'd say Mapp might think he's taken us as far as he can... No surprise he has been doubtful about the budget when he has no idea who will be his boss.
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Post by Denissmithswig on May 1, 2017 12:16:59 GMT
Rumour from the awards night...Lunny's mum told someone him and Maguire were getting a house together next season.
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Post by RCYellowRC on May 1, 2017 12:26:37 GMT
Charlie raglan was released yesterday. Give him a pen Hopefully it's something that has already been sorted, it would be Appletons best and safest bet to have a partnership who have played together going into next season.
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Post by tatabanya on May 1, 2017 12:41:52 GMT
Charlie raglan was released yesterday. Give him a pen Hopefully it's something that has already been sorted, it would be Appletons best and safest bet to have a partnership who have played together going into next season. I'm fairly sure we will be looking to bring it a left footed cb as well
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Post by oufcyellows on May 1, 2017 13:02:26 GMT
Hopefully it's something that has already been sorted, it would be Appletons best and safest bet to have a partnership who have played together going into next season. I'm fairly sure we will be looking to bring it a left footed cb as well Don't think it's as important as some make out. Especially if u have a player who is comfortable there. Raglan has looked no worse a player at all on the left and formed a good partnership with Nelson, that I would think is more important than which is his preferred foot. More important will be a faster decent lb who can cover and assist the cb on that side
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Post by foley on May 1, 2017 13:18:37 GMT
Charlie raglan was released yesterday. Give him a pen I still don't quite get how Raglan was not good enough for a team that finished bottom of our league ....
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Post by MJB on May 1, 2017 13:23:52 GMT
Rumour from the awards night...Lunny's mum told someone him and Maguire were getting a house together next season. Very sweet - hope they don't turn into the Odd Couple.
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Post by dabigfella on May 1, 2017 13:25:25 GMT
Right now we have Nelson, Dunkley and Martin as centre backs (all right footed of course) and we have a couple who can play there if required (Long and Skarz). What we don't have is a left footed centre back. If Appleton decided to bring one in then Raglan will be surplus to requirements. The only way I see him staying is if Appleton gets rid of one of the others (Dunkley maybe?).
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Post by oufcyellows on May 1, 2017 13:27:30 GMT
At the min we don't have dunkley for next season. So a case of offering him or raglan a deal really
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Post by ryaniobirdio on May 1, 2017 13:44:59 GMT
"But how is there room for all these defenders? Where will Dunkley play?!"
Never gets old seeing this type of thing!
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Post by gilgy on May 1, 2017 14:11:41 GMT
"But how is there room for all these defenders? Where will Dunkley play?!" Never gets old seeing this type of thing! Rotherham
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Post by gilgy on May 1, 2017 14:20:05 GMT
So just watched Mapp's post match interview on YP...
"the meetings will start really soon. ...really big May for the football club... then hopefully I'll be able to go away for a few weeks over June just really looking forward to next season"....
Wonder if we can infer from this that he's optimistic about most of the business being completed early doors?
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Post by lukehudson on May 1, 2017 16:05:58 GMT
Rumour from the awards night...Lunny's mum told someone him and Maguire were getting a house together next season. Ooooh please be true.
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Post by gilgy on May 1, 2017 16:09:18 GMT
Rumour from the awards night...Lunny's mum told someone him and Maguire were getting a house together next season. Ooooh please be true. Depends where the house is...
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