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Post by Yellow River on Jan 10, 2017 19:45:10 GMT
Could be more stewards than fans at the match tonight.😳 I demand that Oxvox do 'something'
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jan 10, 2017 20:09:50 GMT
Not about not asking questions Paul, but when ur asking questions that nobody on here can answer, isn't it better to ask them somewhere that can, and then post the answers ? If ur not asking them to the right person then they are not awkward at all are they? Not having a go at him was a serious comment, why not ask the man directly. Nothing to do with blind allegiance, but look where rumours and hear say got us with the Ian mixter situation in the first place Questions are not rumours, nor are they hear say. Posting them on here, although no-one may answer them registers the concern and helps dispel the warm and fuzzy feeling some of us seem to crave that the club are now doing all they can for us the supporters, which they clearly aren't, are they? I shouldn't have limited my comment to questions - "Missing from the Oxvox meeting minutes is ANY mention that the Club (OUFC) also wont tolerate (agency) Stewards threatening or intimidating any OUFC supporters, which I think is something the club, OUFC should have mentioned in that meeting. Otherwise cynical sceptics (such as me )will perceive that OUFC do not value their paying customers anywhere near as much as they should"
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 10, 2017 20:22:44 GMT
Well saying that people will perceive that oufc do not value their paying customers as much as they should is implying they are doing nothing or don't care, which if it isn't actually the case is going back mixter not doing his job isn't it. My point is why not ask him . In one email he can give sarge that warm fuzzy feeling back, and maybe answer all his questions about the use of the green guide guidelines which it does say in the notes they are following.
And while it doesn't specifically say the club won't tolerate abuse from agency it does say this
IM assured that all stewards were to be briefed by the Club later that day. SB & JF were invited to attend the first briefing at the conclusion of the meeting, which we both did. GBT also attended and addressed the stewards, as a one off, before IM took the briefing. Following the fixture, it had been apparent from feedback that most stewards had behaved in a very different manner to the previous fixtures. [This could be because a number of Boxing Day Staff had never previously attended the Kassam Stadium and were unaware of the high standards required]. Positive feedback about being helpful, polite and enhancing the matchday experience was obvious.
Wouldn't u say that shows the club is concerned about the way stewards treat fans and that it was addressed at the meeting ?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jan 10, 2017 20:35:44 GMT
Oh, it's like knitting sand, talking to you. Well saying that people will perceive that oufc do not value their paying customers as much as they should is implying they are doing nothing or don't care, which if it isn't actually the case is going back mixter not doing his job isn't it. Of course it isn't. IM assured that all stewards were to be briefed by the Club later that day. SB & JF were invited to attend the first briefing at the conclusion of the meeting, which we both did. GBT also attended and addressed the stewards, as a one off, before IM took the briefing. Following the fixture, it had been apparent from feedback that most stewards had behaved in a very different manner to the previous fixtures. [This could be because a number of Boxing Day Staff had never previously attended the Kassam Stadium and were unaware of the high standards required]. Positive feedback about being helpful, polite and enhancing the matchday experience was obvious. Wouldn't u say that shows the club is concerned about the way stewards treat fans and that it was addressed at the meeting ? No. It says the club addressed some of the issues, most of those that were raised at the meeting. You're a funny bloke. Master throws you a crumb and you think he's sharing his table with you.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 10, 2017 20:39:49 GMT
What's funnier is that all I've had for weeks is people saying I'm not backing de, and question the way the club are doing things in the press, as well as the handling of the stadium and contradicting what Oxvox have said, yet u still think all I do is back the club??? I've not one said the club have handled it correctly, I've not said that sarge should stop asking questions, what I said was he should ask the only person who has the answers, then we might get to find out the actual answers .
As for your post above saying they have addressed some of the issues raised at the meeting, isn't that the issue that he's asking a question about ?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jan 10, 2017 20:50:54 GMT
What's funnier is that all I've had for weeks is people saying I'm not backing de, and question the way the club are doing things in the press, as well as the handling of the stadium and contradicting what Oxvox have said, yet u still think all I do is back the club??? I'm shocked. How dare they question your loyalty? The fools. As for your post above saying they have addressed some of the issues raised at the meeting, isn't that the issue that he's asking a question about ? You know sarge, he's asked loads. They certainly haven't addressed the AGM one, or the stewards intimidating kids one. Please stop replying.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jan 10, 2017 20:55:57 GMT
I'm not doubting anyone's loyalty and I've always been a rabid OxVox enthusiast. I also think it's good to have people like Sarge challenging the status quo (no Parfitt jokes, please) and asking questions of everyone and everything. In true dog-with-bone style he won't give up, and should be applauded for it.
I believe we're winning a football match tonight, by the way. Crowd apparently 1,383. I've seen in-game photos on Twitter. 1,000 of them must be in the bogs.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 10, 2017 20:56:26 GMT
I like replying, ur like the annoying granny that I dread coming round, but you will still get a cuddle and a kiss. I think the stewards intimidating kids with balloons was addressed in there as well I think u have taken my initial post the wrong way, I don't know sarge but do know he loves a green guide, my point is/was that there are some very important questions in there, relating to the guide as well the agm, and with a new slo being announced today, and Ian mixter being given a direct email address, maybe asking those questions direct will get him and us the important answers.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jan 10, 2017 21:09:39 GMT
I believe we're winning a football match tonight, by the way. Crowd apparently 1,383. I've seen in-game photos on Twitter. 1,000 of them must be in the bogs. I hope the stewards aren't letting them smoke.
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Post by sarge on Jan 10, 2017 21:44:58 GMT
Not about not asking questions Paul, but when ur asking questions that nobody on here can answer, isn't it better to ask them somewhere that can, and then post the answers ? If ur not asking them to the right person then they are not awkward at all are they? Not having a go at him was a serious comment, why not ask the man directly. Nothing to do with blind allegiance, but look where rumours and hear say got us with the Ian mixter situation in the first place Rumours and hearsay? or facts that some of us could see? whatever they are perceived as, they have resulted in the oxvox meeting meeting with DE, GBT and IM minuted at the start of this thread, plus an oxvox meeting with IM as guest speaker on the horizon too, thats where its got us. Ive got 'a few' questions to ask at the Oxvox meeting with the interim chief safety officer as guest speaker, when it is eventually scheduled! Questions above were for Sihath who , as I answered a few he asked me, Im sure will respond after tonights game. I may be wrong here, but, the minutes at the start of the thread, to ( cynical and sceptical) me, with minutes being true record of what was said, shamefully on the part of the club, do not, at any point, state that the club, OUFC, equally deplore any bad behavior (or mistreatment) towards OUFC supporters, (the club, OUFCs paying customers) .....which when all is said and done was actually what has bought this whole debacle to the point we are currently at. Flag gate! Some posters on this forum, as is their right, appear to believe all is shiny and good now. Me,I have added up the facts that since the interim chief safety officer has been appointed,and ground regulations have apparently been reinterpreted from what was custom and practice for some years, there have been a series of incidents that have involved agency stewards acting in an intimidatory manner towards OUFC fans at different recent home matches. As yet, the club, OUFC, have still not accepted responsibility for the deplorable actions of people they have employed as stewards, despite having had the perfect oppertunity to both do and say so, at the minuted meeting between Oxvox and club representatives. That to me is both a shame, and shameful for the club, OUFC, to treat their paying customers, their own supporters, in such a contemptuous manner. All that would have been needed was someone, on behalf of OUFC at the minuted meeting, either DE or GBT, to have stated after saying the club would not tolerate any bad behavior against stewards or staff that equally the club would not tolerate any bad behavior against their own (or visiting) supporters, however neither DE or GBT did choose state that at the meeting. Shame on the both of them I say! OUFC supporters were here before the current owners and OUFC supporters will continue to support OUFC long after the current set up have gone, that isnt rumours or hearsay that is an absolute fact!
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 10, 2017 22:04:40 GMT
I wasn't implying what u we're saying is rumour or hearsay , I was saying that's what u end up with when things go round and round in circles on a fans forum with out info from the people that actually have the details. A lot of people on here were itk that it was all Ian's fault and he was the devil, while Neil was the good guy and shouldn't have been replaced, actual facts since have shown that probably isn't the case . I do not believe everything is shiny and good by a long shot, I think the issue has been addressed, the way I read it gbt and IM laid it out plain and simple in the stewards meeting that what had gone on is unacceptable and this is how U are going to behave from now on, leading to much better comments on stewards the following match( or is that coincidence?) your right though the statement that they will not tolerate abuse could have been included both ways. My point was and still is ur questions are important and by emailing them to the person that has been put in place to deal with them you might get the answers, why wait till a fans forum? Others on twitter have had responses from him and gbt. I think the agm question could have much more concerning issues and probably more far reaching than the stewarding, if it's being ignored for a reason rather than just forgotten .
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Post by sarge on Jan 10, 2017 22:44:08 GMT
Forum is a place to discuss (different) views on a number of subjects I believe? Blimey! you agree with my point re not tolerating abuse couldve, and maybe shouldve been in the meeting minutes as a two way statement!!!! Im nearly 'speech'less Iam, as MApp said on rad ox, keeping my powder dry re.asking my questions at an oxvox meeting to the person concerned, so then others, not just me get the replies from the horses mouth (so to speak) and can draw their own conclusions. Emails unless shared in their entirety aint worth the paper they're written on in my opinion Im glad you think the steward/agency issue has been adressed, me I think its been raised but is still very, very much a work in progress issue, still one of us is happy The real facts regarding Neil H 'leaving' and Iam M being appointed interim chief safety officer have for me not yet been established satisfactorily, nor has why coincidentaly with Ian M's appointment, agency 'stewards' declared open season on OUFC supporters over the following home games, ditto reinterpretation of ground regs 7 & 8 as quoted at the Ultras during flag gate, saw custom and practice disguarded and binned in one hit on that one!'Someone' instructed the agency stewards to use hammer to crack a walnut tactics, question is who? My calculated guess is it may well be the same person who decided, for the first time in as long as I can remember, not to hold a shareholders meeting in 2016! But then Im a cynic and a sceptic
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Post by yelnah on Jan 10, 2017 23:21:13 GMT
#GBTOUT. too many lies. Wont take responsibility for his actions . The club would save a lot more money by sacking him not the assets the club HAD.
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Post by oxfordyankee on Jan 11, 2017 7:00:54 GMT
#GBTOUT. too many lies. Wont take responsibility for his actions . The club would save a lot more money by sacking him not the assets the club HAD. Go on, substantiate your accusations. What has he lied about? Who has he sacked and for what reasons?
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Post by sihath on Jan 11, 2017 8:02:59 GMT
Missing from the Oxvox meeting minutes is ANY mention that the Club (OUFC) also wont tolerate (agency) Stewards threatening or intimidating any OUFC supporters, which I think is something the club, OUFC should have mentioned in that meeting. Otherwise cynical sceptics (such as me )will perceive that OUFC do not value their paying customers anywhere near as much as they should! while we're doing a mini Q& A Sihath, whats your thoughts on agency stewards intimidating OUFC fans? Totally wrong and it should stop. This was mentioned in the meeting notes and hopefully at the next home game an improvement will be clear: Both OxVox and Club had received recent complaints about these agencies. Some of their staff had been difficult to engage with, had stood deliberately in front of spectators during games – refusing to move when asked, had been enforcing checks on tickets and confiscating items. IM noted the use of agency was not ideal and that he had been in discussions with both in recent days.
IM assured that all stewards were to be briefed by the Club later that day. SB & JF were invited to attend the first briefing at the conclusion of the meeting, which we both did. GBT also attended and addressed the stewards, as a one off, before IM took the briefing. Following the fixture, it had been apparent from feedback that most stewards had behaved in a very different manner to the previous fixtures. [This could be because a number of Boxing Day Staff had never previously attended the Kassam Stadium and were unaware of the high standards required]. Positive feedback about being helpful, polite and enhancing the matchday experience was obvious.whats your thoughts on agency stewards from Sw*nd*n, being employed by OUFC, & aforementioned stewards posting inflamatory images, and comments, on social media actually during the time they are employed and paid to act as stewards by OUFC? Also totally wrong. I would hope that the stewards and agencies involved will be investigated. I believe this came to light after the OxVox meeting so wasn't covered? and what are your thoughts on 2016 being the first year in a very long time that OUFC chose not to hold a shareholders AGM ? Perhaps they're aware that you'd be going and are frightened? Seriously though it's sad if they're not going to have one. Am I right in remembering you asking Ian Lenegan about an AGM a few years ago and he told you that they weren't compelled to have one?Now I think we are pretty much aligned with our thoughts on the issues. Where we differ is the reasons behind it. You seem to think it's a conspiracy from some shady people in power who are determined to p*ss off all the OUFC fans and the club are complicit in this. Why they'd want to do this is unclear and other than some evil plans that you seem to think is intention of people at the club.... Here's what I wrote back on 14th December about flaggate: Here's a theory.
The Ultras have been putting up flags, doing the displays etc for a number of years without much interference from the stewards. This might be in contravention of some of the safety certificate 'regulations' (when the flags can be waved/poles being weapons, that kind of thing) but those have not been enforced as it's not seen as a big problem and we're otherwise pretty well behaved as fans.
Then, over the last couple of years we've got ourselves to the top of the "letting off smoke bombs at games" League, despite plenty of appeals form the club that we could be fined and potentially docked points. That seemed to die down a bit at the start of this season, but then Millwall and Port Vale games both had smoke bombs.
Club find that they are under much closer scrutiny from the authorities and with the new steward feeling he has to enforce things to the letter, the Ultras are asked not to wave the flags at certain times during the game, fire safety certificates are being asked for, and we find ourselves in the situation we are now in.
As I say it's just a theory, but it could explain a change in stance from Stadco/Club/Stewards etc.
Let's hope the Ultras/OxVox and the club can come to an agreement. It might need some compromise though.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 11, 2017 8:08:19 GMT
Forum is a place to discuss (different) views on a number of subjects I believe? Blimey! you agree with my point re not tolerating abuse couldve, and maybe shouldve been in the meeting minutes as a two way statement!!!! Im nearly 'speech'less Iam, as MApp said on rad ox, keeping my powder dry re.asking my questions at an oxvox meeting to the person concerned, so then others, not just me get the replies from the horses mouth (so to speak) and can draw their own conclusions. Emails unless shared in their entirety aint worth the paper they're written on in my opinion Im glad you think the steward/agency issue has been adressed, me I think its been raised but is still very, very much a work in progress issue, still one of us is happy The real facts regarding Neil H 'leaving' and Iam M being appointed interim chief safety officer have for me not yet been established satisfactorily, nor has why coincidentaly with Ian M's appointment, agency 'stewards' declared open season on OUFC supporters over the following home games, ditto reinterpretation of ground regs 7 & 8 as quoted at the Ultras during flag gate, saw custom and practice disguarded and binned in one hit on that one!'Someone' instructed the agency stewards to use hammer to crack a walnut tactics, question is who? My calculated guess is it may well be the same person who decided, for the first time in as long as I can remember, not to hold a shareholders meeting in 2016! But then Im a cynic and a sceptic See I don't think we're actually talking much difference sarge, you take me saying it's been addressed as I think it's solved, by addressed I mean spoken about not cleared up like u say a work in progress, but much better than saying they haven't even addressed it . Yes there are a few more questions that could be answered, I just feel u will probably get more answers directly than at a fans forum where it's all a bit more rushed, people don't have facts and figures with them and they will look to quickly move on if a difficult question is asked. With no home games for a few weeks, a few hard questions to the bloke in charge may prompt some changes . Seems things are moving in a better direction though, the appointment of a much missed supporter liaison officer for one. On a side note what's your best guess as to why no agm?
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Post by sihath on Jan 11, 2017 8:13:15 GMT
Forum is a place to discuss (different) views on a number of subjects I believe? Blimey! you agree with my point re not tolerating abuse couldve, and maybe shouldve been in the meeting minutes as a two way statement!!!! Im nearly 'speech'less Iam, as MApp said on rad ox, keeping my powder dry re.asking my questions at an oxvox meeting to the person concerned, so then others, not just me get the replies from the horses mouth (so to speak) and can draw their own conclusions. Emails unless shared in their entirety aint worth the paper they're written on in my opinion Im glad you think the steward/agency issue has been adressed, me I think its been raised but is still very, very much a work in progress issue, still one of us is happy The real facts regarding Neil H 'leaving' and Iam M being appointed interim chief safety officer have for me not yet been established satisfactorily, nor has why coincidentaly with Ian M's appointment, agency 'stewards' declared open season on OUFC supporters over the following home games, ditto reinterpretation of ground regs 7 & 8 as quoted at the Ultras during flag gate, saw custom and practice disguarded and binned in one hit on that one!'Someone' instructed the agency stewards to use hammer to crack a walnut tactics, question is who? My calculated guess is it may well be the same person who decided, for the first time in as long as I can remember, not to hold a shareholders meeting in 2016! But then Im a cynic and a sceptic See I don't think we're actually talking much difference sarge, you take me saying it's been addressed as I think it's solved, by addressed I mean spoken about not cleared up like u say a work in progress, but much better than saying they haven't even addressed it . Yes there are a few more questions that could be answered, I just feel u will probably get more answers directly than at a fans forum where it's all a bit more rushed, people don't have facts and figures with them and they will look to quickly move on if a difficult question is asked. With no home games for a few weeks, a few hard questions to the bloke in charge may prompt some changes . Seems things are moving in a better direction though, the appointment of a much missed supporter liaison officer for one. On a side note what's your best guess as to why no agm? www.companylawclub.co.uk/must-a-company-hold-general-meetingsThere is now no statutory requirement for a private company to hold any general meetings, not even an Annual General Meeting. This change was introduced when Part 13 (sec281 - sec361) of the Companies Act 2006 came into effect on 1st. October 2007. Before that, all companies were required to hold an Annual general Meeting, though since the 1989 Act came into effect it has been possible for private companies to opt out if holding AGMs, by passing a (now defunct) elective resolution.
Some companies' articles will require them to hold an AGM and any such provision will continue to be binding on the company until the articles are amended. A company may hold an AGM even though not bound to by the Act or its articles. The former statutory requirement to lay accounts before the general meeting has been replaced by a provision requiring them to be sent to the members: CA 2006, sec423 - sec425.
Incorporation Services Limited provides an expert service for all your company law requirements, including the calling and conduct of general meetings. Company Articles: Don't have this information to hand. But there's no legal obligation to hold and AGM. Perhaps nothing sinister in this, just how DE wants to run things?
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jan 11, 2017 9:08:20 GMT
I did assume that with DE and his other board members owning so many of the clubs shares, that an AGM is a slightly moot point for them. It also means that awkward conversations can be avoided as well.
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Post by sarge on Jan 11, 2017 12:59:30 GMT
Forum is a place to discuss (different) views on a number of subjects I believe? Blimey! you agree with my point re not tolerating abuse couldve, and maybe shouldve been in the meeting minutes as a two way statement!!!! Im nearly 'speech'less Iam, as MApp said on rad ox, keeping my powder dry re.asking my questions at an oxvox meeting to the person concerned, so then others, not just me get the replies from the horses mouth (so to speak) and can draw their own conclusions. Emails unless shared in their entirety aint worth the paper they're written on in my opinion Im glad you think the steward/agency issue has been adressed, me I think its been raised but is still very, very much a work in progress issue, still one of us is happy The real facts regarding Neil H 'leaving' and Iam M being appointed interim chief safety officer have for me not yet been established satisfactorily, nor has why coincidentaly with Ian M's appointment, agency 'stewards' declared open season on OUFC supporters over the following home games, ditto reinterpretation of ground regs 7 & 8 as quoted at the Ultras during flag gate, saw custom and practice disguarded and binned in one hit on that one!'Someone' instructed the agency stewards to use hammer to crack a walnut tactics, question is who? My calculated guess is it may well be the same person who decided, for the first time in as long as I can remember, not to hold a shareholders meeting in 2016! But then Im a cynic and a sceptic See I don't think we're actually talking much difference sarge, you take me saying it's been addressed as I think it's solved, by addressed I mean spoken about not cleared up like u say a work in progress, but much better than saying they haven't even addressed it . Yes there are a few more questions that could be answered, I just feel u will probably get more answers directly than at a fans forum where it's all a bit more rushed, people don't have facts and figures with them and they will look to quickly move on if a difficult question is asked. With no home games for a few weeks, a few hard questions to the bloke in charge may prompt some changes . Seems things are moving in a better direction though, the appointment of a much missed supporter liaison officer for one. On a side note what's your best guess as to why no agm? the club arent legally required to hold an agm, nonetheless 2016 was the first year since Ive been a shareholder ( during the 80s)without there being an AGM - which is where minority shareholders of OUFC get to have their say to the powers that be. Maybe its a cost cutting excersise, as a couple of hours plus tea n biscuits is too much of a burden of clubs finances? Maybe theres someone in a posisition of power, who is perhaps a recentish appointee who is playing a double game, as in publically saying one thing, but actually working to a or several hidden agenda(s)? though I am cynically sceptical me
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Post by oxfordyankee on Jan 11, 2017 13:01:53 GMT
Or you could just book an appointment with Eales or GBT and ask them what it is you want to. It really is as easy as that.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 11, 2017 13:01:56 GMT
Was the first agm under eales the one that was chaired by lenagan? Or am I getting that confused with something else.
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Post by sihath on Jan 11, 2017 13:07:09 GMT
See I don't think we're actually talking much difference sarge, you take me saying it's been addressed as I think it's solved, by addressed I mean spoken about not cleared up like u say a work in progress, but much better than saying they haven't even addressed it . Yes there are a few more questions that could be answered, I just feel u will probably get more answers directly than at a fans forum where it's all a bit more rushed, people don't have facts and figures with them and they will look to quickly move on if a difficult question is asked. With no home games for a few weeks, a few hard questions to the bloke in charge may prompt some changes . Seems things are moving in a better direction though, the appointment of a much missed supporter liaison officer for one. On a side note what's your best guess as to why no agm? the club arent legally required to hold an agm, nonetheless 2016 was the first year since Ive been a shareholder ( during the 80s)without there being an AGM - which is where minority shareholders of OUFC get to have their say to the powers that be. Maybe its a cost cutting excersise, as a couple of hours plus tea n biscuits is too much of a burden of clubs finances? Maybe theres someone in a posisition of power, who is perhaps a recentish appointee who is playing a double game, as in publically saying one thing, but actually working to a or several hidden agenda(s)? though I am cynically sceptical me Perhaps he doesn't want us there during the week as he's building a massive lair under the pitch, like a cross between Tracey Island and Blofeld's Volcano in You Only Live Twice. Then he's going to use nuclear weapons against Swindon Town and The flag waving Ultras, what with all his duplicitous hidden agendas and stuff. Someone told me they saw him buying a white cat in a petshop last week.
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Post by sihath on Jan 11, 2017 13:08:15 GMT
Was the first agm under eagles the one that was chaired by lenagan? Or am I getting that confused with something else. No confusion, that was the one.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 11, 2017 13:09:08 GMT
Read de program notes in the eales thread and it says again that he fully supports what Oxvox are doing, it's more the speed that concerns him not the final outcome
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Post by sarge on Jan 11, 2017 13:21:40 GMT
I did assume that with DE and his other board members owning so many of the clubs shares, that an AGM is a slightly moot point for them. It also means that awkward conversations can be avoided as well. there are a number of 'minority' share holders, who for the first time since Ive been a shareholder, have not had thier chance to have a say at an AGM, granted the club dont legally have to hold an AGM, what I find strange, given some of the chairmen OUFC have had ( inc Fat Bob, Ka$$am & Ian Lenegan amongst them, some of who held the AGM at awkward times!), is that 2016 IS the first year with no AGM DE portrays himself as accessible, yet with no AGM he and the board have been the exact opposite towards minority shareholders Is it a coincidence that droves of OUFC employees have 'left' since the 2015 AGM, all manner of issues have arisen including where OUFC supporters have been subjected to 'bad behavior' from (agency) stewards at home games on the say so and instruction of someone 'upstairs' (apparently not Ian Mixter), and that a then new appointee voted AGAINST the wishes of the board re including prem b teams in the checkatrade/boycott trophy competition, someone it appears is operating a hidden agenda, coincidentally all this has taken place under the MD's watch, do 2 and 2 add up to make 4 here I wonder?
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Post by sarge on Jan 11, 2017 13:24:33 GMT
Was the first agm under eagles the one that was chaired by lenagan? Or am I getting that confused with something else. No confusion, that was the one. indeed it was ...and both Sihath and I were there
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 11, 2017 13:25:49 GMT
Have u read his program notes sarge . I think he's referring to your hints about gbt It is still therefore a little disappointing to learn that elements of the supporter group are seemingly seeking to undermine what has been achieved and constantly seem to try to find fault and criticise. This will always be easy to do as no one is perfect and identifying problems rather than deliverable solutions is a much more straight forward task. And However, personal criticism, aimed at any club employee, is not acceptable, especially when conducted through social media rather than face to face as part of a constructive dialogue
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 11, 2017 13:26:26 GMT
No confusion, that was the one. indeed it was ...and both Sihath and I were there I wanna buy a share so I can come. How much ?
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Post by sihath on Jan 11, 2017 13:27:06 GMT
I did assume that with DE and his other board members owning so many of the clubs shares, that an AGM is a slightly moot point for them. It also means that awkward conversations can be avoided as well. there are a number of 'minority' share holders, who for the first time since Ive been a shareholder, have not had thier chance to have a say at an AGM, granted the club dont legally have to hold an AGM, what I find strange, given some of the chairmen OUFC have had ( inc Fat Bob, Ka$$am & Ian Lenegan amongst them, some of who held the AGM at awkward times!), is that 2016 IS the first year with no AGM DE portrays himself as accessible, yet with no AGM he and the board have been the exact opposite towards minority shareholders Is it a coincidence that droves of OUFC employees have 'left' since the 2015 AGM, all manner of issues have arisen including where OUFC supporters have been subjected to 'bad behavior' from (agency) stewards at home games on the say so and instruction of someone 'upstairs' (apparently not Ian Mixter), and that a then new appointee voted AGAINST the wishes of the board re including prem b teams in the checkatrade/boycott trophy competition, someone it appears is operating a hidden agenda, coincidentally all this has taken place under the MD's watch, do 2 and 2 add up to make 4 here I wonder? Have you contacted GBT or DE or the club and asked about the AGM?
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Post by sarge on Jan 11, 2017 13:29:32 GMT
the club arent legally required to hold an agm, nonetheless 2016 was the first year since Ive been a shareholder ( during the 80s)without there being an AGM - which is where minority shareholders of OUFC get to have their say to the powers that be. Maybe its a cost cutting excersise, as a couple of hours plus tea n biscuits is too much of a burden of clubs finances? Maybe theres someone in a posisition of power, who is perhaps a recentish appointee who is playing a double game, as in publically saying one thing, but actually working to a or several hidden agenda(s)? though I am cynically sceptical me Perhaps he doesn't want us there during the week as he's building a massive lair under the pitch, like a cross between Tracey Island and Blofeld's Volcano in You Only Live Twice. Then he's going to use nuclear weapons against Swindon Town and The flag waving Ultras, what with all his duplicitous hidden agendas and stuff.
wasnt that what Ka$$am had installed under the Priory car park while building his hotel next to the bowlplex ? Someone told me they saw him buying a white cat in a petshop last week. I heard it was GBT who was spotted buying a white cat
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