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Post by mcf86 on Dec 27, 2016 9:56:31 GMT
Jem, I'd just like to know your view and that of the group's view as a whole on the way stewards are conducting themselves regarding flags, and now balloons, and their general overzealous stance?
If not already, will the club be approached regarding this issue? There's little doubt the whole atmosphere has been negatively affected and in turn impacted on the players as well.
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Post by sarge on Dec 27, 2016 10:42:42 GMT
what he said ^^^ (plus, add flasks into the equation too!!!)
and, would it be possible to find out why agency 'stewards' employed by OUFC are NOT complying with the duties and requirements of section 4 (Stewards) as set out in the Green Guide, ( the 'bible'for safety in sports grounds in England and Wales) ?
Maybe Box Turnbull can answer that one?
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Post by Colin B on Dec 27, 2016 11:24:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure that if people get in touch with us, with specific instances, then we'll look at it. It is quite important, though, to have specifics rather than generalisations.
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Post by Jem on Dec 27, 2016 15:59:04 GMT
Hi all.
I've been speaking to GBT on this subject today and everyone is keen to get to the bottom of what's going on!
Can anyone with info and specific instances please drop me a line on here or in a direct message.
We'll do all we can to make the club aware of issues. It's Important to note that GBT is just as keen to get things resolved.
Cheers
Jem
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Post by Denissmithswig on Dec 27, 2016 22:56:24 GMT
Hi all. I've been speaking to GBT on this subject today and everyone is keen to get to the bottom of what's going on! Can anyone with info and specific instances please drop me a line on here or in a direct message. We'll do all we can to make the club aware of issues. It's Important to note that GBT is just as keen to get things resolved. Cheers Jed With all due respect to you Jem, I will (and I think a fair few others) will believe that when we see it. Any way, keep up the good work you are doing. Certainly notice OxVox making excellent progress under your leadership.
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Post by outsidethebox on Dec 28, 2016 9:54:41 GMT
Midway through first half a female steward walked about one third of the way up the first gangway to the right of the dug-outs and demanded that balloons be passed to her. Area in question around row E/F seat 135/140 at a guess. Several other posters have recounted this incident on other threads.
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Post by classonewhistle on Dec 28, 2016 17:09:23 GMT
Midway through first half a female steward walked about one third of the way up the first gangway to the right of the dug-outs and demanded that balloons be passed to her. Area in question around row E/F seat 135/140 at a guess. Several other posters have recounted this incident on other threads. I witnessed this incident the balloons were taken off a child. Shame on the people who make up these rules they are not encouraging people to come and enjoy themselves .
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Post by wallop on Dec 28, 2016 18:12:42 GMT
Midway through first half a female steward walked about one third of the way up the first gangway to the right of the dug-outs and demanded that balloons be passed to her. Area in question around row E/F seat 135/140 at a guess. Several other posters have recounted this incident on other threads. I witnessed this incident the balloons were taken off a child. Shame on the people who make up these rules they are not encouraging people to come and enjoy themselves . Wow - if that's true, it's pathetic and outrageous. What on earth could the rationale for that be and to take them from a child......
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Post by hades on Dec 28, 2016 18:14:18 GMT
Jem my brother has photos of this happening and I saw it too. I'll see if he'll send them over to you via pm. The only one I got was of the baloon confiscated.
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Post by londonroader on Dec 28, 2016 19:32:42 GMT
One simple thing to do is if anyone notices an incident with stewards etc, either take pics or better still video the incident. It would be good to build up a portfolio of the problem stewards and there actions, because they are accountable for their actions and I wonder if our friendly TVP would be interested in the actions of incidents against football fans.
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Post by plonker on Dec 28, 2016 23:41:41 GMT
Smoking in the toilets is a definite concern for me personally. I saw a steward go into the toilet and catch fans smoking. Fans made a quip about "cindering not smoking". He had a laugh and left. Then when I left the toilet, he was leaning against the wall yawning!
This was in the toilets opposite the catering section in block 25. The guy was wearing 074 on a yellow high-vis jacket. In his twenties, dark hair and about 6'2". Could be a bit off with the height - with his leaning and all!
I realise smoking is an issue that will divide fans, but not only is it illegal (which I'm sure must make the club liable), it's a health risk.
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Post by yelnah on Dec 28, 2016 23:56:27 GMT
Smoking in the toilets is a definite concern for me personally. I saw a steward go into the toilet and catch fans smoking. Fans made a quip about "cindering not smoking". He had a laugh and left. Then when I left the toilet, he was leaning against the wall yawning! This was in the toilets opposite the catering section in block 25. The guy was wearing 074 on a yellow high-vis jacket. In his twenties, dark hair and about 6'2". Could be a bit off with the height - with his leaning and all! I realise smoking is an issue that will divide fans, but not only is it illegal (which I'm sure must make the club liable), it's a health risk. i thought they.let fans out for a cigerette like they do in east stand and south stands
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Post by Maurice Earp on Jan 2, 2017 18:39:05 GMT
At the end of the match against Walsall, a female calmly lit a cigarette at the front of the East Stand. Nothing was said to this woman Join OxVox www.oxvox.org.uk/join-oxvox/
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 2, 2017 18:58:36 GMT
At the end of the match against Walsall, a female calmly lit a cigarette at the front of the East Stand. Nothing was said to this woman Join OxVox www.oxvox.org.uk/join-oxvox/She must have enjoyed the climax more than I did
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Post by Bue Guado on Jan 3, 2017 22:25:22 GMT
Hi all. I've been speaking to GBT on this subject today and everyone is keen to get to the bottom of what's going on! Can anyone with info and specific instances please drop me a line on here or in a direct message. We'll do all we can to make the club aware of issues. It's Important to note that GBT is just as keen to get things resolved.Cheers Jem Couldn't agree more. I corresponded with him over the last few days, and was left surprisingly impressed by his commitment to this whole issue. If there's one person at the club not taking this lightly, it's GBT.
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Post by oldman159 on Jan 4, 2017 7:35:49 GMT
Now, OXVOX if I were to have a body worn camera on for my own security, (you know, pre-empting the risk of being intimidated by 'whoever') would it be confiscated?
Just askin!
Could be a double edged sword, I guess.😉
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Post by essexyellows on Jan 4, 2017 7:49:57 GMT
Hi all. I've been speaking to GBT on this subject today and everyone is keen to get to the bottom of what's going on! Can anyone with info and specific instances please drop me a line on here or in a direct message. We'll do all we can to make the club aware of issues. It's Important to note that GBT is just as keen to get things resolved.Cheers Jem Couldn't agree more. I corresponded with him over the last few days, and was left surprisingly impressed by his commitment to this whole issue. If there's one person at the club not taking this lightly, it's GBT. His many years in PR & as a "communications professional" suggests that he is very likely to tell you what you want to hear..... judge by his actions not his words.
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Post by yelnah on Jan 4, 2017 7:55:19 GMT
Managed to blag his way out of phone hacking.... he seems legit to me.... NOT
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Post by MJB on Jan 5, 2017 15:40:34 GMT
Have just read the OxVox minutes of their meeting with Ian Mixter, DE and GBT.
Firstly can I say thank you as ever to the guys at OxVox for your continued professionalism, advocacy and general common sense in dealing with this type of scenario.
I think the notes are very helpful in clarifying some of the issues which have been raised of late. I genuinely think the club and its staff are seeking to address some ongoing problems which includes protecting fan interests from external bodies.
Everything stated in the minutes seems entirely sensible and reasonable to me and I hope there is continued progress on the actions highlighted.
On a personal level, I would also be keen to see less of a witch-hunt against those who work for the club and frequently seem to be vilified on here, often perhaps based on rumours and conjecture. I'm sure all will know which two individuals I'm particularly referring to and although no one should be above constructive criticism, I feel a line has often been crossed.
Unity and cooperation is so important to relatively small organisations with large public profiles such as OUFC and a bit more of a considered approach by all is probably something to be encouraged generally.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jan 5, 2017 15:46:22 GMT
I'm still digesting the minutes, so won't comment just yet. OxVox committee: Would it be possible for the minutes to be re-produced on here? I've tried to do so, but the presentation is lousy. I realise all OxVox members will receive the minutes (and that non-members shouldn't moan about not having sight of them ), but stewarding issues affect everyone's match day. Cheers.
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Post by sihath on Jan 5, 2017 16:07:30 GMT
Have just read the OxVox minutes of their meeting with Ian Mixter, DE and GBT. Firstly can I say thank you as ever to the guys at OxVox for your continued professionalism, advocacy and general common sense in dealing with this type of scenario. I think the notes are very helpful in clarifying some of the issues which have been raised of late. I genuinely think the club and its staff are seeking to address some ongoing problems which includes protecting fan interests from external bodies. Everything stated in the minutes seems entirely sensible and reasonable to me and I hope there is continued progress on the actions highlighted. On a personal level, I would also be keen to see less of a witch-hunt against those who work for the club and frequently seem to be vilified on here, often perhaps based on rumours and conjecture. I'm sure all will know which two individuals I'm particularly referring to and although no one should be above constructive criticism, I feel a line has often been crossed. Unity and cooperation is so important to relatively small organisations with large public profiles such as OUFC and a bit more of a considered approach by all is probably something to be encouraged generally. I've only had time to speed read the minutes, but echo what you've written. Regarding the part of your post that I've highlighted, I think it'll be a bit like the tabloids who will splash front page lies about someone, then issue a 1 paragraph apology on page 58 when the truth comes out.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jan 5, 2017 16:16:19 GMT
I'm still digesting the minutes, so won't comment just yet. OxVox committee: Would it be possible for the minutes to be re-produced on here? I've tried to do so, but the presentation is lousy. I realise all OxVox members will receive the minutes (and that non-members shouldn't moan about not having sight of them ), but stewarding issues affect everyone's match day. Cheers. They always do anyway, but give members a few hours/days first, otherwise junior has no reason to join up
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Post by oxvox on Jan 5, 2017 17:21:28 GMT
I'm still digesting the minutes, so won't comment just yet. OxVox committee: Would it be possible for the minutes to be re-produced on here? I've tried to do so, but the presentation is lousy. I realise all OxVox members will receive the minutes (and that non-members shouldn't moan about not having sight of them ), but stewarding issues affect everyone's match day. Cheers. Hi Pete
The notes will be posted up on here on Friday!
Cheers
Jem
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