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Post by tatabanya on Jan 29, 2011 18:01:31 GMT
Clarke 8 Batt 9 Worley 9 Wright 5 Tonks 8 Hall 6 Maclaren 7 Clist 6 Maclean 7 Beano 7 Craddock 7
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Post by oxfordboy on Jan 29, 2011 18:04:04 GMT
Wright wasn't that bad, Beano and Craddock deserve 8's as well.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 29, 2011 18:03:56 GMT
Clarke 8 Batt 9 Worley 9 Wright 5 Tonks 8 Hall 6 Maclaren 7 Clist 6 Maclean 7 Beano 7 Craddock 7 Largely agree but two main problems: I thought Hall was 7, maybe even 7.5. Others seem to disagree but I thought he did a lot for us, particularly coming forwards today and a couple of Josh Payne-esque raking crossfield balls. I also thought Maclean deserved no more than 6, not a great game by anyone's standards let alone his. Too many fancy tricks, not doing enough of what he usually does, holding the ball up and bringing others into play.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Jan 29, 2011 18:05:02 GMT
Clarke-8 Saved the penalty! Batt-8 Really on form worley-8 Solid and stormed forward well at times Wright- 7 solid for most of game but was at fault for goal (needs a hair cut) Tonkin-9 Brilliant today what an outlet on the left Hall-7 Got from box to box well, ball got caught in feet a couple of times Clist-6 At times looks good but the ball got caught in his feet to much, did not move it quick enough at times but one great block in the area Maclaren-8 Solid, simple and slowed their attacks down well Beano-8 Worked his socks off and has clearly been working on his left foot with a couple of great crosses Maclean-7 Not his best game but still had brilliant moments and everything goes through him Craddock-7 Looks really composed and another goal
Subs Potter-7 couple of driving runs Heslop-6 really like him but did not move ball quick enough
All in all good performance but we need to get the ball in the box more and move it quicker at times. However, we are really trying to play the right stuff and it is a joy to watch. Not sure why their keeper time wasted so much when the rest of his team did not.
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Post by tatabanya on Jan 29, 2011 18:19:25 GMT
Maclean deserves a 7 for his part in our goal. Wright a 5 for his part in theirs; if he heads that ball we probably win the game.
Craddock did play well and tested the keeper 3 times but really should have scored again.
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Post by unification on Jan 29, 2011 18:20:06 GMT
Clarke 8 - Penalty save hero. Batt 8 - Got forward really well, some outrageous bits of skill and didn't lose the ball at all. McLaren gets the best out of him. Wright 6 - To blame for the goal and sloppy at times with his passing. Nearly always followed the mistake up with a crunching tackle or a sensible pass though. Worley 9 - Looked really assured out there today. Held the defence together well. MOTM. Tonkin 8 - Loses a point for the penalty. Otherwise, excellent. Seems to have found an extra gear in recent weeks and he should rightfully be one of the first names on the teamsheet now he's got his form back. Hall 8 - Thought he was excellent, but I know others on here will knock him. We looked a worse team without him and his general mopping up and nicking the ball off the opposition gave space for McLaren to play in. McLaren 7 - Tidy performance. Cheltenham looked to stop him playing it around in the early stages, but as soon as the pressure was off he really helped out. Clist 7 - Hardly lost the ball all game, but went missing when he was supposed to be playing at left midfield. Would love to see him really have a go at goal when well positioned because we know he can play. Maclean 7 - Not his best game today. Caught in possession a few too many times and his decision making at times wasn't great. Still the man to make our front line tick regardless. Constable 8 - Usual hustle and bustle and was the main man looking to shoot whereas the rest of the team weren't. Craddock 7 - Quiet first half, but capped it with a goal. Harsh to be subbed so early.
SUBS Heslop 6 - Actually thought Hall put himself around more. Heslop's movement wasn't good enough. Potter 6 - Decision making let him down, but had a few good runs to make the Cheltenham defenders sh*t themselves.
My only gripe today is that the subs didn't allow us to keep the pressure on Cheltenham. Wilder may have taken Hall and Craddock off with Southend in mind on Tuesday night, but I still felt we could have killed off Cheltenham had we gone at them with the starting XI. Heslop is no doubt an excellent player, but he couldn't do the grafting and tidying job that Hall can do so it was little wonder that Cheltenham had the gall to have a go near the end. Clist isn't a left midfielder either and was caught out of position a few times near the end.
Nevertheless, another good performance. Wes Thomas is clearly a talent for them and I wouldn't be surprised if another club came in for him. The rest of them were no better than average League 2 fodder.
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Post by tonyw on Jan 29, 2011 18:20:11 GMT
Though I still find it almost impossible to tell him apart from Wright (one needs to get a haircut!), it was Tonks who gave away the penalty wasn't it? Regardless of whether he did get a touch on the ball - it was a stupid challenge on a player going away from goal, and should rule him out from MoM!
I thought Worley was excellent, but would probably give MoM to Batt. Made the goal, constantly dangerous going forward and defended pretty well too, including a goal-saving tackle first half. Top performance.
Whilst McClean wasn't at his best - that ball out to Batt which led to the goal was still genius....
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Jan 29, 2011 18:22:33 GMT
Clarke 8 - Penalty save hero. Batt 8 - Got forward really well, some outrageous bits of skill and didn't lose the ball at all. McLaren gets the best out of him. Wright 6 - To blame for the goal and sloppy at times with his passing. Nearly always followed the mistake up with a crunching tackle or a sensible pass though. Worley 9 - Looked really assured out there today. Held the defence together well. MOTM. Tonkin 8 - Loses a point for the penalty. Otherwise, excellent. Seems to have found an extra gear in recent weeks and he should rightfully be one of the first names on the teamsheet now he's got his form back. Hall 8 - Thought he was excellent, but I know others on here will knock him. We looked a worse team without him and his general mopping up and nicking the ball off the opposition gave space for McLaren to play in. McLaren 7 - Tidy performance. Cheltenham looked to stop him playing it around in the early stages, but as soon as the pressure was off he really helped out. Clist 7 - Hardly lost the ball all game, but went missing when he was supposed to be playing at left midfield. Would love to see him really have a go at goal when well positioned because we know he can play. Maclean 7 - Not his best game today. Caught in possession a few too many times and his decision making at times wasn't great. Still the man to make our front line tick regardless. Constable 8 - Usual hustle and bustle and was the main man looking to shoot whereas the rest of the team weren't. Craddock 7 - Quiet first half, but capped it with a goal. Harsh to be subbed so early. SUBS Heslop 6 - Actually thought Hall put himself around more. Heslop's movement wasn't good enough. Potter 6 - Decision making let him down, but had a few good runs to make the Cheltenham defenders sh*t themselves. My only gripe today is that the subs didn't allow us to keep the pressure on Cheltenham. Wilder may have taken Hall and Craddock off with Southend in mind on Tuesday night, but I still felt we could have killed off Cheltenham had we gone at them with the starting XI. Heslop is no doubt an excellent player, but he couldn't do the grafting and tidying job that Hall can do so it was little wonder that Cheltenham had the gall to have a go near the end. Clist isn't a left midfielder either and was caught out of position a few times near the end. Nevertheless, another good performance. Wes Thomas is clearly a talent for them and I wouldn't be surprised if another club came in for him. The rest of them were no better than average League 2 fodder. Clist lost the ball quite a bit, more so in the first half. He finds himself in great positions but often is not creative enough or he does not move the ball quick enough.
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Post by baldy on Jan 29, 2011 18:31:01 GMT
Clarke 6 - Mixed bag. Hesitated for their goal but great penalty save. Batt 8 - He gets into some great areas going forward and defended well too. Worley 7 - No nonsense defending and brought the ball out of defence well. Wright 5 - Unusually poor game. Seemed very casual on the ball. Tonkin 7 - Bombed forward, crossing was a mixture of good and bad. McLaren 8 - He's equally as crucial to us as McLean is. Oozes quality. Clist 7 - Continued his good form. I'd like to see him shoot a bit more though. Hall 7 - Good but he never really grabs the game and dominates the midfield. Craddock 7 - Needs to be more direct, good on the ball but guilty of over playing it. Constable 6 - Like Craddock one pass too many in good positions. McLean 6 - Poor first half but got better as game went on.
Potter 5 - Never got on the ball and had a go at them. Heslop 5 - Spurned a great opportunity inside the box late on.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Jan 29, 2011 18:35:29 GMT
Clarke 6 - Mixed bag. Hesitated for their goal but great penalty save. Batt 8 - He gets into some great areas going forward and defended well too. Worley 7 - No nonsense defending and brought the ball out of defence well. Wright 5 - Unusually poor game. Seemed very casual on the ball. Tonkin 7 - Bombed forward, crossing was a mixture of good and bad. McLaren 8 - He's equally as crucial to us as McLean is. Oozes quality. Clist 7 - Continued his good form. I'd like to see him shoot a bit more though. Hall 7 - Good but he never really grabs the game and dominates the midfield. Craddock 7 - Needs to be more direct, good on the ball but guilty of over playing it. Constable 6 - Like Craddock one pass too many in good positions. McLean 6 - Poor first half but got better as game went on. Potter 5 - Never got on the ball and had a go at them. Heslop 5 - Spurned a great opportunity inside the box late on. Clarke IMO was not at fault in any way for their goal and Clist lost the ball to many times and got caught falt footed. I agree he does need to shoot more.
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Post by Beav on Jan 29, 2011 18:37:58 GMT
Clarke 6 - Mixed bag. Hesitated for their goal but great penalty save. Batt 8 - He gets into some great areas going forward and defended well too. Worley 7 - No nonsense defending and brought the ball out of defence well. Wright 5 - Unusually poor game. Seemed very casual on the ball. Tonkin 7 - Bombed forward, crossing was a mixture of good and bad. McLaren 8 - He's equally as crucial to us as McLean is. Oozes quality. Clist 7 - Continued his good form. I'd like to see him shoot a bit more though. Hall 7 - Good but he never really grabs the game and dominates the midfield. Craddock 7 - Needs to be more direct, good on the ball but guilty of over playing it. Constable 6 - Like Craddock one pass too many in good positions. McLean 6 - Poor first half but got better as game went on. Potter 5 - Never got on the ball and had a go at them. Heslop 5 - Spurned a great opportunity inside the box late on. Clarke IMO was not at fault in any way for their goal. I need to see a replay. In my mind I can see him coming for it. Then hesitating then he's in the world place possible giving the striker an opportunity to lob him. Gotta see replay but he should have either come out or stay on his line seeing as how far to the left it was. He did neither really. I do have to see the replay (dunno if I've said that enough) to confirm my thoughts on this.
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Post by tatabanya on Jan 29, 2011 18:42:03 GMT
Looked as if he didn't come until Wright left it. If Wright hadn't heard a shout then he shouldn't have left it.
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Post by londonroader on Jan 29, 2011 18:46:43 GMT
Clarke 8 - Penalty save hero. Batt 8 - Got forward really well, some outrageous bits of skill and didn't lose the ball at all. McLaren gets the best out of him. Wright 6 - To blame for the goal and sloppy at times with his passing. Nearly always followed the mistake up with a crunching tackle or a sensible pass though. Worley 9 - Looked really assured out there today. Held the defence together well. MOTM. Tonkin 8 - Loses a point for the penalty. Otherwise, excellent. Seems to have found an extra gear in recent weeks and he should rightfully be one of the first names on the teamsheet now he's got his form back. Hall 8 - Thought he was excellent, but I know others on here will knock him. We looked a worse team without him and his general mopping up and nicking the ball off the opposition gave space for McLaren to play in. McLaren 7 - Tidy performance. Cheltenham looked to stop him playing it around in the early stages, but as soon as the pressure was off he really helped out. Clist 7 - Hardly lost the ball all game, but went missing when he was supposed to be playing at left midfield. Would love to see him really have a go at goal when well positioned because we know he can play. Maclean 7 - Not his best game today. Caught in possession a few too many times and his decision making at times wasn't great. Still the man to make our front line tick regardless. Constable 8 - Usual hustle and bustle and was the main man looking to shoot whereas the rest of the team weren't. Craddock 7 - Quiet first half, but capped it with a goal. Harsh to be subbed so early. SUBS Heslop 6 - Actually thought Hall put himself around more. Heslop's movement wasn't good enough. Potter 6 - Decision making let him down, but had a few good runs to make the Cheltenham defenders sh*t themselves. [ font=Verdana]My only gripe today is that the subs didn't allow us to keep the pressure on Cheltenham. Wilder may have taken Hall and Craddock off with Southend in mind on Tuesday night, but I still felt we could have killed off Cheltenham had we gone at them with the starting XI. Heslop is no doubt an excellent player, but he couldn't do the grafting and tidying job that Hall can do so it was little wonder that Cheltenham had the gall to have a go near the end. Clist isn't a left midfielder either and was caught out of position a few times near the end.[/font]Nevertheless, another good performance. Wes Thomas is clearly a talent for them and I wouldn't be surprised if another club came in for him. The rest of them were no better than average League 2 fodder. CW subs Today lost us momentum, Heslop never picked up the pace of Hall, and why CW took Craddock off is baffling, you could have taken Mclean off even Constable didn't look like scoring either, and by taking Craddock off that opened our left hand side up because Mclean was not working back, this gave Cheltnumb the impetus to attack us as we lost our way in the last 20 minutes.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Jan 29, 2011 18:54:49 GMT
Clarke 8 - Penalty save hero. Batt 8 - Got forward really well, some outrageous bits of skill and didn't lose the ball at all. McLaren gets the best out of him. Wright 6 - To blame for the goal and sloppy at times with his passing. Nearly always followed the mistake up with a crunching tackle or a sensible pass though. Worley 9 - Looked really assured out there today. Held the defence together well. MOTM. Tonkin 8 - Loses a point for the penalty. Otherwise, excellent. Seems to have found an extra gear in recent weeks and he should rightfully be one of the first names on the teamsheet now he's got his form back. Hall 8 - Thought he was excellent, but I know others on here will knock him. We looked a worse team without him and his general mopping up and nicking the ball off the opposition gave space for McLaren to play in. McLaren 7 - Tidy performance. Cheltenham looked to stop him playing it around in the early stages, but as soon as the pressure was off he really helped out. Clist 7 - Hardly lost the ball all game, but went missing when he was supposed to be playing at left midfield. Would love to see him really have a go at goal when well positioned because we know he can play. Maclean 7 - Not his best game today. Caught in possession a few too many times and his decision making at times wasn't great. Still the man to make our front line tick regardless. Constable 8 - Usual hustle and bustle and was the main man looking to shoot whereas the rest of the team weren't. Craddock 7 - Quiet first half, but capped it with a goal. Harsh to be subbed so early. SUBS Heslop 6 - Actually thought Hall put himself around more. Heslop's movement wasn't good enough. Potter 6 - Decision making let him down, but had a few good runs to make the Cheltenham defenders sh*t themselves. [ font=Verdana]My only gripe today is that the subs didn't allow us to keep the pressure on Cheltenham. Wilder may have taken Hall and Craddock off with Southend in mind on Tuesday night, but I still felt we could have killed off Cheltenham had we gone at them with the starting XI. Heslop is no doubt an excellent player, but he couldn't do the grafting and tidying job that Hall can do so it was little wonder that Cheltenham had the gall to have a go near the end. Clist isn't a left midfielder either and was caught out of position a few times near the end.[/font]Nevertheless, another good performance. Wes Thomas is clearly a talent for them and I wouldn't be surprised if another club came in for him. The rest of them were no better than average League 2 fodder. CW subs Today lost us momentum, Heslop never picked up the pace of Hall, and why CW took Craddock off is baffling, you could have taken Mclean off even Constable didn't look like scoring either, and by taking Craddock off that opened our left hand side up because Mclean was not working back, this gave Cheltnumb the impetus to attack us as we lost our way in the last 20 minutes. Agree about the subs. I would have taken Clist off for Heslop.
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Post by yellowdog on Jan 29, 2011 19:13:47 GMT
Clarke 8 7 Batt 9 9 Worley 9 8 Wright 5 5 Tonks 8 9 Hall 6 7 Maclaren 7 7 Clist 6 6 Maclean 7 7 Beano 7 8 Craddock 7 7 apart from Potter I thought that the subs did not improve things I can understand why he made the subs but I agree with the other comments that we lost a bit of momentum
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 19:24:48 GMT
Can't see how Potter improved things from what Craddock was doing. Batt had the beating of their full back all day and Potter should have too, but he never really ran at him instead cutting inside onto his (virtually useless) left-foot slowing things down.
I can see the reasoning behind the subs, they just didn't work today.
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Post by nottsyellow on Jan 29, 2011 20:05:34 GMT
There's quite a few 6s and 7s there. A very good team performance, entertaining game, enjoyable to watch 8 and 9s for all the players. When we were in the conference that was 5, 6 or 7s but not today. Appreciate a good team perfomane when you see one.
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Post by oldman159 on Jan 29, 2011 22:44:17 GMT
There's quite a few 6s and 7s there. A very good team performance, entertaining game, enjoyable to watch 8 and 9s for all the players. When we were in the conference that was 5, 6 or 7s but not today. Appreciate a good team perfomane when you see one. What he said!
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Jan 29, 2011 23:18:17 GMT
There's quite a few 6s and 7s there. A very good team performance, entertaining game, enjoyable to watch 8 and 9s for all the players. When we were in the conference that was 5, 6 or 7s but not today. Appreciate a good team perfomane when you see one. I'm not sure how you equate giving a score of six to people not appreciating a good performance! Not sure you understand how player ratings work! Most people have scored the players 6 or above with most players scoring 7 or above, that demonstrates that most people thought we played well but that we were not perfect!
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Post by jimmycarterxi on Jan 30, 2011 2:15:22 GMT
Cheltenham did their homework, their little black no 11 was basically man marking maclaren in the first half which stopped us playing from the back, think this shows the respect they and teams in future have for us, very good all round performance again, we made a decent cheltenham team with good away record look very ordinary
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Post by longliveclarkey on Jan 30, 2011 8:31:37 GMT
Clarke IMO was not at fault in any way for their goal. I need to see a replay. In my mind I can see him coming for it. Then hesitating then he's in the world place possible giving the striker an opportunity to lob him. Gotta see replay but he should have either come out or stay on his line seeing as how far to the left it was. He did neither really. I do have to see the replay (dunno if I've said that enough) to confirm my thoughts on this. The question is really why Wright left it. If it's because he heard a shout from Clarke, then it's both of their faults. However, it looked to me like Clarke was expecting Wright to pass/head it back to him, that's why he was stood still off his line, otherwise I don't see why he wouldn't have just ran straight for the ball. I can see us ending up disagreeing on this again though He did have a flap just after the penalty save, completely miscued a punch, but I thought that was the only thing he got wrong all afternoon.
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Post by yelloexile on Jan 30, 2011 9:17:15 GMT
Batt my MOTM yesterday. Absolutely worked his socks off, his crossing at times was brilliant and his defensive game has really improved.
Overall though, a very good game against a good side and it was nice to hear some of the more objective comments on radox.
Mind you, there was a bloke near me in the OM with serious anger management issues - to hear him you'd think we were playing like relegation material.
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Post by Godders on Jan 30, 2011 10:02:35 GMT
I thought Batt was MOTM as well, excellent game yesterday.
Wright the biggest concern, not sure where that performance came from given he was excellent at N'ton.
Subs make sense, those lads have played a lot of footie recently.
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Post by dabigfella on Jan 30, 2011 10:05:56 GMT
Clarke IMO was not at fault in any way for their goal. I need to see a replay. In my mind I can see him coming for it. Then hesitating then he's in the world place possible giving the striker an opportunity to lob him. Gotta see replay but he should have either come out or stay on his line seeing as how far to the left it was. He did neither really. I do have to see the replay (dunno if I've said that enough) to confirm my thoughts on this. I agree. As I remember it Clarke came, stopped and then half-heartedly came again, leaving Wright totally unsure what to do. The result we all know.
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Post by oxyellow on Jan 30, 2011 12:00:05 GMT
Wright is usually top class, but had a poor game yesturday, his passing out of defence was sloppy, and made a couple of mistakes. Agree with the comments about Batt, he was excellent, got forward extremely well down the right, and put in some great crosses, also as has been mentioned already, his defensive work has improved immensely, like that tackle he made yesturday which stopped what would have probably been a goal.
Thought both Batt and Tonkin played very well, and really helped us going forward, Tonkin also was excellent making some really good runs down the left hand side, and also played in some decent crosses, also have noticed the last couple of games, he has been going forward enough to attempt a few shots aswell. Thought either him or Batt deserved man of the match yesturday.
Don't understand why Craddock was taken off, he looked the most likely to score out of our strikers on the pitch, and had a great game, was unlucky to have not scored twice. Potter came on and added nothing for us, kept bringing the ball inside, when he should have been varying his runs.
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Post by irishterrier on Jan 30, 2011 12:18:14 GMT
i dont post normally when i dont go ,,but i have to ask why midson wasnt given some time late on? afterall hes scored 3 goals against them this season? But it sounded good on the radio .
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Post by Marked Ox on Jan 30, 2011 13:03:19 GMT
I need to see a replay. In my mind I can see him coming for it. Then hesitating then he's in the world place possible giving the striker an opportunity to lob him. Gotta see replay but he should have either come out or stay on his line seeing as how far to the left it was. He did neither really. I do have to see the replay (dunno if I've said that enough) to confirm my thoughts on this. I agree. As I remember it Clarke came, stopped and then half-heartedly came again, leaving Wright totally unsure what to do. The result we all know. I don't see how Clarkey is at fault in anyway as he was left utterly exposed. Tonks left it to Wright who then did nothing but leave the ball to go through which he should never have done. I can only think that Jake didn't realise Wes Thomas was by him at the time. The error was by Jake Wright and partially Tonks for not communicating he was leaving the ball which is highlighted by the discussion that starts between them if you see the TV highlights or when at the game. Wrighty and Tonks both had some excellent moments yesterday mixed in with the occasional nightmare moment like the goal. Credit goes to both him though for getting their heads up afterwards and helping the team battle back quickly. Harry Worley was excellent yesterday, imo. A number of excellent challenges on the ground and in the air coupled with some good runs forward.
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