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Post by Mark on Mar 3, 2016 18:01:00 GMT
Your excited Slappy? I`m still waiting for Charlie`s "list of things he thinks the committee should have done in the last year". Sadly Jem`s interjection that Oxvox will be updating what they have done probably cooled the water a bit. Or he has me on ignore. I said I got a bit excited thinking we were appearing in an official BMW 100th birthday blog.
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Post by charliesghost on Mar 3, 2016 22:07:40 GMT
some interesting things said and some good candidates be good if squabbling could stop for once I agree with charliesghost supporters groups should be independent and have lots of different views getting our hands on the kas stad or anywhere else is so important if we want money to keep pushing up the leagues. good luck to all involved Tut tut Stooping a bit low using a multi account to back up your view point. Ha! Have just been pointed in the direction of this post. May I please just deny that I am 'Steve Williams' and, if necessary, call on the administrator to back me up?! I have spotted some other multis on this thread, but I've never used one myself, nor sought to disguise my identity by using a disguised handle. Easy to hand out abuse when u think people don't know who you are, eh londonroader?
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Post by charliesghost on Mar 3, 2016 22:24:17 GMT
Your excited Slappy? I`m still waiting for Charlie`s "list of things he thinks the committee should have done in the last year". Sadly Jem`s interjection that Oxvox will be updating what they have done probably cooled the water a bit. Or he has me on ignore. Oh, if you must! I'd like to see a more active attempt to fund-raise, and organise events. I have the OxVox 6-a-side trophy sat on my side-board; not sure why no-one bothered to organise that this year. The charity walks that helped raise money and bring people together? That seems to have bitten the dust too. I've made no secret of my belief, and expressed it to the committee, that I believe that as a true Supporters Trust OxVox should also be looking formally at the options around the stadium situation. Because that is the biggest issue threatening the sustainability of the club and that is what Trusts should be concerned about. You will, or may, note that none of the above is critical, or even questioning, of the club or its management. It's just the stuff that was going on before but seems to have stopped, for no obvious reason. I don't believe that pursuing membership numbers is an end unto itself. For the record, I'm not sure that the current level is a membership record (though I'm happy to stand corrected). As far as I'm aware membership reached a peak of just over 650, dropped to something like 540 and then has increased again to over 600. All good stuff, but the bottom line is that - in the big scheme of things - membership has been in the 500 to 600 range for a long while now. Whether it's 520 or 570 isn't what lights my fire, anymore than it'll help Labour that Corbyn has increased its membership, but the idea that there has been a huge surge in membership to never seen before levels is not quite true, I think? Hope that helps. Of course the stuff outlined above - football tournaments; fund-raisers; charity walks - is all 'old hat'. I'd be delighted to see bright NEW ideas if they are better than the old ones.
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Post by sm86 on Mar 4, 2016 8:04:23 GMT
Hi Charlie - fund raising is a great idea that everyone can get involved in, why don't we (me and you) get the 6 a-side tournement planned. It shouldnt just be left to the board members, as a member of Oxvox I would be happy to get involved to help support the committee and do something positive.
The offer is on the table, let me know if your in...
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Post by londonroader on Mar 4, 2016 8:05:38 GMT
Tut tut Stooping a bit low using a multi account to back up your view point. Ha! Have just been pointed in the direction of this post. May I please just deny that I am 'Steve Williams' and, if necessary, call on the administrator to back me up?! I have spotted some other multis on this thread, but I've never used one myself, nor sought to disguise my identity by using a disguised handle. Easy to hand out abuse when u think people don't know who you are, eh londonroader? very good. What on earth makes makes anyone think I was talking about you...
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Post by Paul Cannell on Mar 4, 2016 8:05:59 GMT
I have actually worked around some countries where there is no debate before 'people have a vote", because "everything's great as it is". Apologies if this is straying from the gravimum, but: Was it really scary? Could you not have rented a one of them Segways or got a piggy-back from one of the down-trodden? Any bars you'd recommend?
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Post by essexyellows on Mar 4, 2016 10:53:09 GMT
Your excited Slappy? I`m still waiting for Charlie`s "list of things he thinks the committee should have done in the last year". Sadly Jem`s interjection that Oxvox will be updating what they have done probably cooled the water a bit. Or he has me on ignore. Oh, if you must! I'd like to see a more active attempt to fund-raise, and organise events. I have the OxVox 6-a-side trophy sat on my side-board; not sure why no-one bothered to organise that this year. The charity walks that helped raise money and bring people together? That seems to have bitten the dust too. I've made no secret of my belief, and expressed it to the committee, that I believe that as a true Supporters Trust OxVox should also be looking formally at the options around the stadium situation. Because that is the biggest issue threatening the sustainability of the club and that is what Trusts should be concerned about. You will, or may, note that none of the above is critical, or even questioning, of the club or its management. It's just the stuff that was going on before but seems to have stopped, for no obvious reason. I don't believe that pursuing membership numbers is an end unto itself. For the record, I'm not sure that the current level is a membership record (though I'm happy to stand corrected). As far as I'm aware membership reached a peak of just over 650, dropped to something like 540 and then has increased again to over 600. All good stuff, but the bottom line is that - in the big scheme of things - membership has been in the 500 to 600 range for a long while now. Whether it's 520 or 570 isn't what lights my fire, anymore than it'll help Labour that Corbyn has increased its membership, but the idea that there has been a huge surge in membership to never seen before levels is not quite true, I think? Hope that helps. Of course the stuff outlined above - football tournaments; fund-raisers; charity walks - is all 'old hat'. I'd be delighted to see bright NEW ideas if they are better than the old ones. Fair points well put. In terms of membership it has to remain a priority as a Trust with (wild wish time) 5-6,000 members will have far more leverage, commercially or otherwise, than one of 5-600 so bigger is better. 100% agree around ownership and understand the influences & issues around that, however I don`t personally see WE as a solution ....mostly because I am an "old style" supporter who likes grounds in/near their town/city where much of their "soul" & support is based. Six a side, fund raisers, charity walks etc certainly has its place. I`m fairly hopeful the new committee members will bring their own ideas. There we are almost on the same page.
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Post by Long John Silver on Mar 5, 2016 8:32:50 GMT
Surely if all the loyal supporters in the East stand would actually join their clubs supporters trust, then membership numbers would rise quite a bit...
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 5, 2016 9:56:38 GMT
Surely if all the loyal supporters in the East stand would actually join their clubs supporters trust, then membership numbers would rise quite a bit... They can't, they are to busy singing and checking details of people leaving early
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Post by sm86 on Mar 7, 2016 11:55:27 GMT
Are any of you going along on Saturday before the game? Be good to have a beer and put faces to names/usernames.
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Post by mcf86 on Mar 7, 2016 12:55:59 GMT
Surely if all the loyal supporters in the East stand would actually join their clubs supporters trust, then membership numbers would rise quite a bit... Some are loyal-er than others though, and even so loyalty to the Club is one thing - to actually go a step further and join an organisation whose sole purpose is to get Supporters together, United as one, to Support the Club in anyway they can, is possibly asking too much. As it stands, I don't think the majority of the Support see the need for a Supporters trust, everything seems tikkety boo, and unless there's a crisis, such as the price of a pie going up or whatever, then peeps are happy.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Mar 7, 2016 13:22:07 GMT
Surely if all the loyal supporters in the East stand would actually join their clubs supporters trust, then membership numbers would rise quite a bit... Some are loyal-er than others though, and even so loyalty to the Club is one thing - to actually go a step further and join an organisation whose sole purpose is to get Supporters together, United as one, to Support the Club in anyway they can, is possibly asking too much. As it stands, I don't think the majority of the Support see the need for a Supporters trust, everything seems tikkety boo, and unless there's a crisis, such as the price of a pie going up or whatever, then peeps are happy. Quite. People will join OxVox in their hundreds if a major crisis loomed, like Mr Eales selling out to Kassam, for example. It's a bit like this board; after a comfortable win there's a trickle of posts, but should we lose ....
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Post by pottersrightboot on Mar 8, 2016 8:39:57 GMT
Don't necessarily agree, by all accounts Oxvox has had a bit of a membership surge over the last year.
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