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Post by mcf86 on Feb 6, 2016 14:57:19 GMT
Just sat and watched that TVP could learn a bit there, they just provoke it then use video against you, Yorkshire contained it mostly by segregation, dispersed them, slowly, and got millwall away. Wonder if 'Millwall' was there, all his crap about cowards walk, they stayed in the ground long enough When Wiltshire announced we'd be kept in one night we just took the gates down lol Millwall were kept in the ground at Elland road by Yorkshire Police for their own safety and to try and prevent things escalating. TVP decided to let Millwall out at the final whistle at Grenoble road because - (1) They have to justify their existence and need. (2) TVP The Robo cops enjoy a good old ruck, and Football fans are perfect targets as we're all hooligans so nobody bats an eye lid, except if you're a victim! (3) Their dogs were hungry and blood thirsty. I remember U's fans 'Gate crashing' a match at Brisband road after arriving late to find the turnstiles closed, purely by accident, the gates were actually crashed. Much to the surprise of those already in the ground!
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Post by ox11yellow on Feb 7, 2016 9:48:19 GMT
Their have been long cues since before Xmas at games on the right side of the east stand, for the first couple of games it was because a turnstile had broken down and it was then fixed minutes before, now its that people are not turning up. It always seems to be the right side as well, even on lesser attented games. The new card system seems to have made things worse on this front. The queues on the right side of the East Stand do seem to be longer so we just move to the left side. It doesn't matter which side you use, the tickets are still successfully scanned
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 7, 2016 13:40:50 GMT
Always go in on the left side and never have an issue queuing. But I suppose it's also on people not to rock up at 10 minutes before kick off and expect to get in now.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Feb 7, 2016 14:04:43 GMT
But I suppose it's also on people not to rock up at 10 minutes before kick off and expect to get in now. That's fair, but against Millwall the queues had built up hugely way before 10 minutes before kickoff.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 7, 2016 14:14:44 GMT
But I suppose it's also on people not to rock up at 10 minutes before kick off and expect to get in now. That's fair, but against Millwall the queues had built up hugely way before 10 minutes before kickoff. Bigger games make it worse for sure. Blackburn had bad queuing as well. I don't think it will be a problem on Tuesday though!
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Post by Long John Silver on Feb 7, 2016 17:10:55 GMT
Always go in on the left side and never have an issue queuing. But I suppose it's also on people not to rock up at 10 minutes before kick off and expect to get in now. Irrelevant of when people do rock up, having all the turnstiles open if the game is a sellout just seems like basic organisation to me. I can't believe that half the turnstile operators employed decided not to bother turning up.
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Post by Mark on Feb 7, 2016 17:48:42 GMT
Once the east stand agreed that it didn't matter if you come in from the south or north entrances, I thought the scanners got people through quicker than the old tear and rip out tickets. No flicking through to find the right ticket, folding to get a decent tear, stashing the ticket in a box for who knows what reason
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 7, 2016 22:00:50 GMT
Always go in on the left side and never have an issue queuing. But I suppose it's also on people not to rock up at 10 minutes before kick off and expect to get in now. Irrelevant of when people do rock up, having all the turnstiles open if the game is a sellout just seems like basic organisation to me. I can't believe that half the turnstile operators employed decided not to bother turning up. It isn't irrelevant if 500 people all choose to rock up 10-15 mins before kick off. I get that have 2 turnstiles open drastically slows down people getting in, but equally on a sell out you can't expect to turn up last minute. Even 1 turnstile extra open may not get everyone in on time. The club should have a back up plan in place, but fans need to leave more leeway in when they get to the ground as well!
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Post by rollsy on Feb 8, 2016 18:54:45 GMT
Irrelevant of when people do rock up, having all the turnstiles open if the game is a sellout just seems like basic organisation to me. I can't believe that half the turnstile operators employed decided not to bother turning up. It isn't irrelevant if 500 people all choose to rock up 10-15 mins before kick off. I get that have 2 turnstiles open drastically slows down people getting in, but equally on a sell out you can't expect to turn up last minute. Even 1 turnstile extra open may not get everyone in on time. The club should have a back up plan in place, but fans need to leave more leeway in when they get to the ground as well! About 400 of us didn't have a choice but to turn up 10 min before kick off when TVP decided to lock us in the Blackbird pub till 7:30, then march us slowly and make us all go through the 1 person gate at the top of the field behind the North stand. Then to have 1/2 the turnstiles open was just a joke.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Feb 8, 2016 21:15:38 GMT
It isn't irrelevant if 500 people all choose to rock up 10-15 mins before kick off. I get that have 2 turnstiles open drastically slows down people getting in, but equally on a sell out you can't expect to turn up last minute. Even 1 turnstile extra open may not get everyone in on time. The club should have a back up plan in place, but fans need to leave more leeway in when they get to the ground as well! About 400 of us didn't have a choice but to turn up 10 min before kick off when TVP decided to lock us in the Blackbird pub till 7:30, then march us slowly and make us all go through the 1 person gate at the top of the field behind the North stand. Then to have 1/2 the turnstiles open was just a joke. Absolutely. Didn't stop plenty of others not rocking up on time at that and other more recent games. Can the blackbird get 400 people in it? It's never seemed that big from the outside!
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Post by Colin B on Feb 9, 2016 7:55:48 GMT
No, people were FORCED to stay in the pub by TVP, it wasn't by choice!
It was just after seven o'clock, if I remember correctly, and the police (in what I thought was an act of provocation) marched the Millwall fans past the Blackbird Leys shops and down Knights Road, knowing full well that the Bird was rammed with Oxford fans, most of whom were stood outside. They could have marched them a couple of other routes to avoid this potential flashpoint, but chose not to. Instead they then surrounded the Bird with dogs and horses and wouldn't let anyone leave for quite a while. To make matters worse they blocked off the bottom of Knights Road and made several hundred people go through the one person gate onto the grassed area behind the NE corner of the stadium, which added at least another 10/15 minutes to the journey. Once we got to the stadium we were greeted by long queues to get in and I personally missed the first ten minutes of the game.
I hate missing the start and never usually do, and left to my own devices I'd have been in the ground before 7:30 but thanks to TVP's ineptitude it was nearer eight o'clock. All totally avoidable, if TVP used a bit of initiative and "managed" the crowd rather than imprison, manhandle and generally treat it with contempt.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Feb 9, 2016 8:26:45 GMT
Can the blackbird get 400 people in it? It's never seemed that big from the outside! Well, the world record for people in a Mini is 28 There were probably more than 200 people outside before the incident and it was utterly rammed inside so I don't think 400 is much off, could have been more even. And yes, we were forced to wait and forced to go through the mini gate.
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Post by southstandyellow on Feb 9, 2016 9:43:31 GMT
More importantly Paul an Eric, how did the pre match food go down in the Bird? I heard it was pie and mash,served with copious amounts of jellied eels?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Feb 9, 2016 11:02:36 GMT
I'm afraid you were misinformed, there was no point in doing ethnic food as there were never going to be any Millwall there, so it was just the normal buffet, with Beef Wellington, Chicken Marengo and Porc a la Normande for the irregulars.
Apparently a group of Millwall did come early, waving their Groupon receipts but they were directed away by the TVP, who had their piggy eyes on the buffet; Sup't Blunt was most complimentary about the 'Pate Des Leys', btw, which surprised chef as he didn't serve any.
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Post by scotters on Feb 9, 2016 11:43:35 GMT
I'm afraid you were misinformed, there was no point in doing ethnic food as there were never going to be any Millwall there, so it was just the normal buffet, with Beef Wellington, Chicken Marengo and Porc a la Normande for the irregulars. Apparently a group of Millwall did come early, waving their Groupon receipts but they were directed away by the TVP, who had their piggy eyes on the buffet; Sup't Blunt was most complimentary about the 'Pate Des Leys', btw, which surprised chef as he didn't serve any. Beef Wellington and Chicken Marengo together? No surprise the constabulary got involved with that kind of provocative approach.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Feb 9, 2016 15:45:27 GMT
Pfft. The Blackbird Buffet is a broad church.
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