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Post by barmyarmy on May 14, 2015 7:33:39 GMT
Stuart Broad may not be everyones cup of tea but his career revolves around playing for England, im not sure anyone can question his commitment. Comments that certainly do not apply to KP
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 14, 2015 12:59:20 GMT
It's more to do with consistency of dealing with players, especially with "trust" issues. But that is the issue with dynamics in teams and cliques forming.
Bell has done a very pragmatic interview re KP. Can't say I disagree with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 16:28:02 GMT
Stuart Broad may not be everyones cup of tea but his career revolves around playing for England, im not sure anyone can question his commitment. Comments that certainly do not apply to KP Come off it. You can hardly say he's not committed to England, it's what he loves the most. Surprised no one has mentioned Broad and Swan and the twitter account. How's that worse then the text thing?
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Post by barmyarmy on May 15, 2015 12:11:30 GMT
Stuart Broad may not be everyones cup of tea but his career revolves around playing for England, im not sure anyone can question his commitment. Comments that certainly do not apply to KP Come off it. You can hardly say he's not committed to England, it's what he loves the most. Surprised no one has mentioned Broad and Swan and the twitter account. How's that worse then the text thing? Really, why did he retire from one day international cricket?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 12:24:51 GMT
Come off it. You can hardly say he's not committed to England, it's what he loves the most. Surprised no one has mentioned Broad and Swan and the twitter account. How's that worse then the text thing? Really, why did he retire from one day international cricket? Has he retired from one day international's?
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 15, 2015 12:34:22 GMT
As I guessed, it seems that Cook was the person that said no to KP. Quite why he won't say it, I don't know. The ECB just keep on ballsing this situation up. It's like they've been reading the Nick Merry book of managing a sport.
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Post by Boogaloo on May 15, 2015 15:32:52 GMT
As I guessed, it seems that Cook was the person that said no to KP. Quite why he won't say it, I don't know. The ECB just keep on ballsing this situation up. It's like they've been reading the Nick Merry book of managing a sport. I remember reading about month ago, Boycott not being happy about Strauss being touted for the job of director because he is too close to the players - he often refers to Cook and Bell as 'Cookie' and 'Bellie'. And this is a classic example of why that is the case. I think Strauss is maybe a bit too young and a bit too close to some of the more senior players. And to think, some people in the media were saying that Strauss was being bold and strong minded in his decision making, even if we didn't agree with it. That's not strong minded - allowing yourself to be dictated to by the captain. The last captain to dictate to the ECB how things should be ironically enough was KP himself - and it cost him his job as captain.
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Post by barmyarmy on May 15, 2015 20:51:25 GMT
Really, why did he retire from one day international cricket? Has he retired from one day international's? I think so, although glad to be corrected if im wrong. Dominic Cork said it how it was earlier today, nice to see someone stick their head above the parapet instead of sitting on the fence.
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Post by SteMerritt on May 15, 2015 21:00:55 GMT
What did Cork say?
Been avoiding cricket today, Middx starting their T20 campaign - that never goes well...
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 15, 2015 21:04:09 GMT
Well, Mr Drinks Carrier, Definitely Not Better Than Ballance from the World Cup just hit 6 Sixes off of 6 balls. What's he doing? He needs to block more to get into team. When will he learn!
The acquiescence to Cook amazes me. No player is bigger than the team. It's not like he's a great Captain and has been in great form.
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Post by barmyarmy on May 15, 2015 21:15:32 GMT
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Post by SteMerritt on May 15, 2015 21:18:49 GMT
He is spot on as well. Well said.
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Post by saddletramp on May 20, 2015 20:13:49 GMT
I see the Ego was interviewed on the golf course today. Cant swing a cricket bat because of an injury,but alright to swing a golf club !
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 10:50:03 GMT
And so starts what I fear will be another embarrassing summer for English cricket.
25 for 3 Lyth, Ballance and Cooke all out.
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Post by nige01ox on May 21, 2015 10:56:20 GMT
start as we mean to go on...
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Post by East Challow Yellow on May 21, 2015 11:01:58 GMT
KP anyone...? ?
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 11:04:59 GMT
And Bell...
31 for 4
When does the football season start again?!
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Post by SteMerritt on May 21, 2015 11:22:48 GMT
Cricinfo says the ball that got Bell was a "brute", anyone actually watching the game care to comment?
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Post by nige01ox on May 21, 2015 12:04:17 GMT
Really good counter-attacking play from Root & Stokes means the situation is not looking quite so perilous. Although of course Stokes wasn't meant to be batting - Ali was over in the nets and such was the speed of the collapse that he didn't get over to the changing room to get his whites on in time.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 12:16:37 GMT
The old adage (well, Boycott's old adage anyway) is to add two wickets onto the score and that will give you a truer picture of the score.
We've just got over 100. If we get to tea and are 220-5 then that would be a fine recovery. Quickly lose either/both of these two and/or Ali and we are stuffed.
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Post by barmyarmy on May 21, 2015 12:35:44 GMT
Cricinfo says the ball that got Bell was a "brute", anyone actually watching the game care to comment? Yep, unplayable. Still not sure Lyth was out.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 12:49:43 GMT
Cricinfo says the ball that got Bell was a "brute", anyone actually watching the game care to comment? Yep, unplayable. Still not sure Lyth was out. He had the chance to review it and didn't. Also 'snicko' showed a definite noise and all the slips/keeper went up as one. It was just a tickle but I think it was out - Lyth certainly did. It was an excellent ball that got Bell out.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 14:05:43 GMT
191 - 5 as Ben Stokes completely misjudges a slow one, leaves it alone and watches in horrified slow motion as it bowls him. Oops.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 14:42:47 GMT
The old adage (well, Boycott's old adage anyway) is to add two wickets onto the score and that will give you a truer picture of the score. We've just got over 100. If we get to tea and are 220-5 then that would be a fine recovery. Quickly lose either/both of these two and/or Ali and we are stuffed. Well 219 -5 at tea so I was one run out! A good session from England there.
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Post by foley on May 21, 2015 14:44:28 GMT
I am going to Lords on Saturday and was pretty concerned at 30 for 4 that it could be all over by then!
Stokes innings was apparently quite something. If he can be more consistent could be a really good cricketer in the future for England.
Just need a quality spin bowler and an imaginative Captain (plus replacements for Anderson and Broad in time). Not much then ...
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 21, 2015 14:55:42 GMT
The early wickets were largely good bowling. Cook's eye lit up at a short ball and he gloved it to the keeper. Bell got a good ball, so did Ballance and Lyth The ball was swinging a lot this morning on a green wicket. Now it seems a lot more easier to bat on.
But at the moment, Joe Root makes batting look easy whatever the wicket is.
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Post by Junior on May 21, 2015 15:26:23 GMT
Will argue about Ballance. He was stuck deep on the crease and didn't now his feet. Poor shot.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 21, 2015 15:31:41 GMT
And I'll argue about Cook. It was a ball he didn't have to play and was too close to him for what he was trying to do. In short form cricket, you'd go for it - in test cricket, not until you've got a lot more than 16 runs especially when your fellow opener and the next man are already out.
Oh and Root is out for 98. 251 - 6
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 21:52:02 GMT
Nice to see some grit today. That batting line up is good enough if they can all find form. Cook Bell Root Ballance are more than capable of pummeling runs if they feel confident. It needs three of them to hit form at once to release the pressure valves on everyone and it will all come together.
My worry is that our bowling is not up to taking 20 wickets.
Ali and Stokes make up the numbers. Broad is bang out of form. Anderson is aging but could do a job if the other end is kept right. Root is our little surprise nugget. We need to hope this new lad is find of the century to win the Ashes really.the Aussies will smash Ali out of series contention in his first ten overs and Cook will bottle using him again
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 22, 2015 20:59:42 GMT
Poor day from England. Didn't take the chances, and didn't score enough runs. Broad needs to bat at 11 as he looks to be a busted flush when he comes to the wicket. NZ did well to capitalise on the errors, something England did not do. It seems our bowlers need a friendly pitch to take 10 wickets.
At least the ECB are talking to prospective coaches. At times it was listless today.
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