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Post by rhinoyellow on Oct 11, 2014 13:06:46 GMT
Appleton must must go, what a embarrassing display we will go down playing this style of football
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Post by wandsworthyellow on Oct 11, 2014 13:14:24 GMT
Appleton must must go, what a embarrassing display we will go down playing this style of football Well we wanted Wilder out and we were top 7
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Post by rhinoyellow on Oct 11, 2014 13:18:52 GMT
Yep and never want him back, tbh I've been telling people that this is miles better.BUT appleton is just so arrogant and thinks he's way will win... in this league u need to mix it up and change we have plan A and plan A and plan A and it's fine we have good players and this will turn... i really don't think if will, far to easy to beat.
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Post by benox on Oct 11, 2014 13:19:08 GMT
Appleton must must go, what a embarrassing display we will go down playing this style of football Well we wanted Wilder out and we were top 7 Get over it, he's gone.
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Post by taffyewe on Oct 11, 2014 13:26:17 GMT
It's not the style of football that's the problem. It is the organisation. Shocking defensively, they had numbers over on far too many occasions. Where was the cover? So you assume that it is because we had committed too many players forward, but whenever the ball was played into the box only Hylton was in there. There was always about 3 players outside the edge, but nobody close enough to threaten anything.
Everyone was packed in the middle of the park. Not enough defensive mindedness, nor enough proper attacking intent from the middle. Only Danny Rose looked as if he was trying to make things happen. Brain Howard looks as if he just does nicey nicey stuff. Joe Riley needs to be dropped for Hunt as he far too often left the defence exposed. Callum was often surrounded by 3 players so there should have been space. The difference was that Cambridge were organised.
Appleton needs to seriously look at his decision to bring in Jakubiak over Roberts. Roberts would have been sniffing, which is what we need. I have questioned the Jakubiak signing as have many of us and I have a gut feeling that we would have been more dangerous with JR in/around the team. He may well regret ignoring the natural goalscoring of Roberts.
Shocking organisation. The manager has to take the responsibility. It is not the style of football (which was not that good today), remember Bury and Gateshead last yaer? They were superb at the passing game, but were also organised and structured. Their promise is now reaping dividends.
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Post by taffyewe on Oct 11, 2014 13:27:52 GMT
Well we wanted Wilder out and we were top 7 Get over it, he's gone. Wandsworth is making a good point. You are not!
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2014 13:31:34 GMT
Wandsworth is making a good point. You are not! It's not a good point though is it. Not everyone wanted him gone , he made that decision . 2/ we were never top 7. Hence why we never made the playoffs , great we were there in mid nov. Means fook all. Mapp may do what wilder never did and that's get us out of this league . Just looking like it may be the wrong way.
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Post by osleroad on Oct 11, 2014 13:32:54 GMT
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
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Post by oufcrealist on Oct 11, 2014 13:32:56 GMT
Appleton must must go, what a embarrassing display we will go down playing this style of football Well we wanted Wilder out and we were top 7 We may have wanted Wilder out. But I for one certainly didnt want Appleton either. His shite record wherever he has been speaks for itself. Quarter of the way through the season and we are in a perilous position. If Eales and co dont sack their mate now, then they deserve the consequences. This style of football is not suited to L2 I dont care what Appleton says. Cambridge showed how to play at this level. Two banks of four and two strikers combining and complementing each other. I felt really sorry for Hylton, completely isolated, crap tactics. Oh and go 3-1 down and bring Andy Whing on, that was a positive move if ever I saw one! Possession alone will get us nowhere and we are sleepwalking towards the conference unless Eales anc co do the right thing and get rid. I also know some of the players are doubting the tactics and the keep ball no matter what philosophy. He should be doing better with the players he has. Things have to change NOW!!
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Post by jez on Oct 11, 2014 13:48:54 GMT
Yep and never want him back, tbh I've been telling people that this is miles better.BUT appleton is just so arrogant and thinks he's way will win... in this league u need to mix it up and change we have plan A and plan A and plan A and it's fine we have good players and this will turn... i really don't think if will, far to easy to beat. "I said right from the start, I won't be taking a backwards step and I certainly won't be doing anything differently this coming week or the following week, or the following week after that.
Read more: yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/19156/insanity#ixzz3FqMh06su
For crying out loud, how about changing something!!!! That was embarrassing. pretty sideways possession, no end product and f*cking SHIT defending. How much longer can we say 'don't panic, he's doing brilliantly, all will be well'. This crap about MAPP taking us to the Championship is a joke- unless its the bloody conker championships.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 13:52:38 GMT
Two of my concerns about the appointment of Appleton that I raised a couple of months ago, nice chap though he seems, is
1. Where was the proper interview process?
2. Why so many short term loans? We know that doesn't work and now we have a set of very unenthusiastic unmotivated looking players which osmoticsk my will impact the rest of the team. If you look around and see others not working for you, eventually it will grind you down.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2014 13:54:29 GMT
He's told the truth though we didn't do any thing different that week the week after or the week after. We continuously got found out week after week by poorer sides.
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Post by taffyewe on Oct 11, 2014 13:56:53 GMT
Wandsworth is making a good point. You are not! It's not a good point though is it. Not everyone wanted him gone , he made that decision . 2/ we were never top 7. Hence why we never made the playoffs , great we were there in mid nov. Means fook all. Mapp may do what wilder never did and that's get us out of this league . Just looking like it may be the wrong way. It is a good point. I did not want him gone, but it was a dig at the muppets who have wished this on us by being greedy, ungrateful jerks. They made Wilder feel unwanted, and seemed to think that his record was shiite. Well this is what I had feared, three managers on and their record is not even worth comparing. We are are now in danger of going backwards, which we never did under Wilder. Incidentally we were comfortably top 7 when Wilder left. It was Mickey who began the decline. Happy 'Wilder out' folks???
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Post by Oxford Nondie on Oct 11, 2014 13:57:39 GMT
Its not the style BUT he must start picking the right players
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Post by oufcrealist on Oct 11, 2014 13:59:26 GMT
Two of my concerns about the appointment of Appleton that I raised a couple of months ago, nice chap though he seems, is 1. Where was the proper interview process? 2. Why so many short term loans? We know that doesn't work and now we have a set of very unenthusiastic unmotivated looking players which osmoticsk my will impact the rest of the team. If you look around and see others not working for you, eventually it will grind you down. Only 1 loan signing started. Thats not the problem. My thoughts are above. I agree that the appointment of Appleton was rash. But obvious as he's a mate of theirs. A decision that will bite them on the arse if they dont do something about it Now.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2014 14:00:02 GMT
We need a manager that knows how to get out of league 2. Mapp is not looking like he does and wilder never did in 4 seasons either. We may have been top 7 when he left but we all know that does not mean that's where we would have stayed. Gw knew how to get out of l2 and the only player he had the chance to sign is the 1 doing the best in this team by a mile !!
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 11, 2014 14:18:39 GMT
I have been annoyingly optimistic up until now but perhaps it's time for someone to have a word about where things are going wrong.
I would be amazed if those behind the scenes haven't got concerns, and Appleton himself must be having doubts. It feels to me that everyone has been scared of making knee jerk reactions, and that it has become safe to stick to the party line despite mounting pressure to change.
But it is clear that Appleton is struggling and he needs to admit this. I don't see him being sacked but things have to change and quickly. Plan B, C or Z needs to appear for next week or even my optimism might go.
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Post by anotherdevonyellow on Oct 11, 2014 14:22:06 GMT
I think Wilder did. Compare our league position this year and last year. Some of us were hoping, perhaps expecting to go from League 2 to League 1 more quickly than it took us to get out of the Conference. That was never going to happen.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 11, 2014 14:25:18 GMT
In all honesty, he looked pretty lost today when the cameras were on him. Looked as though he had no idea what was happening or how to fix it. To be totally honest, he reminded me of Mickey Lewis and Andy Melville.
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Post by chinny on Oct 11, 2014 14:36:40 GMT
WHAT I WITNESSED TODAY ON THE BOX WAS f*cking SHITE FOOTBALL! DEFENCE ABSOLUTELY APPALLING! MIDFIELD GUTLESS!!! EMBARESSING....AND YES I'M SHOUTING!!!!!!!!
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 11, 2014 14:37:15 GMT
Wasn't concerned at all, until today . And losing in the way we did has to be of serious concern. I did doubt how a close friendship between Chairman and manager could cope in a crisis (Which this is) -and it appears to be, not very well, not very well at all. It's all gone quiet over there.
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Post by jez on Oct 11, 2014 15:04:42 GMT
Oh my God!! Just seen MApp interview- going to keep playing the same way......
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Post by victor1986 on Oct 11, 2014 15:17:02 GMT
Two of my concerns about the appointment of Appleton that I raised a couple of months ago, nice chap though he seems, is 1. Where was the proper interview process? 2. Why so many short term loans? We know that doesn't work and now we have a set of very unenthusiastic unmotivated looking players which osmoticsk my will impact the rest of the team. If you look around and see others not working for you, eventually it will grind you down. Spot on Ricky - loans do NOT work (very rarely anyway). It's no coincidence that our current 'best' player (Hylton) is not a loan. Appleton was literally handed the job on a plate - would Eales, Ashton & Co have recruited someone in their other businesses with no experience at a specific level? All of our current loanees are just "playing" for their wages - no real motivation to do well for Oxford United.
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Post by victor1986 on Oct 11, 2014 15:20:36 GMT
Oh my God!! Just seen MApp interview- going to keep playing the same way...... OMG indeed - he's either incredibly optimistic or stupid!!
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Post by barmyarmy on Oct 11, 2014 15:32:56 GMT
Two of my concerns about the appointment of Appleton that I raised a couple of months ago, nice chap though he seems, is 1. Where was the proper interview process? 2. Why so many short term loans? We know that doesn't work and now we have a set of very unenthusiastic unmotivated looking players which osmoticsk my will impact the rest of the team. If you look around and see others not working for you, eventually it will grind you down. Spot on Ricky - loans do NOT work (very rarely anyway). It's no coincidence that our current 'best' player (Hylton) is not a loan. Appleton was literally handed the job on a plate - would Eales, Ashton & Co have recruited someone in their other businesses with no experience at a specific level? All of our current loanees are just "playing" for their wages - no real motivation to do well for Oxford United. Isnt Appiah on loan to cambridge?
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Post by jez on Oct 11, 2014 15:39:12 GMT
Slightly better than our loan players. Was embarrassing watching their fans laughing at one of our loans- Riley. Not sure what he did to deserve that-or didn't. Maybe they were just happy he can't defend! Push him forward one to put crosses in and stick someone who can defend behind him.
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Post by m on Oct 11, 2014 15:49:58 GMT
I also know some of the players are doubting the tactics and the keep ball no matter what philosophy. Would these be the same players who doubted Wilder's methods? Maybe they should shut the fu can up and concentrate on playing the game?! Not arguing with your point though, Appleton should be - and must start -getting better from these players.
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Post by dartfordox (RIP) on Oct 11, 2014 15:53:10 GMT
Slightly better than our loan players. Was embarrassing watching their fans laughing at one of our loans- Riley. Not sure what he did to deserve that-or didn't. Maybe they were just happy he can't defend! Push him forward one to put crosses in and stick someone who can defend behind him. Probably because he was putting his 'crosses' into Row Z behind the goal.
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Post by jez on Oct 11, 2014 16:06:14 GMT
Well he can't defend, so if he has lost the ability to cross as well what the hell does he actually offer?
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Post by barmyarmy on Oct 11, 2014 16:09:41 GMT
It's not a good point though is it. Not everyone wanted him gone , he made that decision . 2/ we were never top 7. Hence why we never made the playoffs , great we were there in mid nov. Means fook all. Mapp may do what wilder never did and that's get us out of this league . Just looking like it may be the wrong way. It is a good point. I did not want him gone, but it was a dig at the muppets who have wished this on us by being greedy, ungrateful jerks. They made Wilder feel unwanted, and seemed to think that his record was shiite. Well this is what I had feared, three managers on and their record is not even worth comparing. We are are now in danger of going backwards, which we never did under Wilder. Incidentally we were comfortably top 7 when Wilder left. It was Mickey who began the decline. Happy 'Wilder out' folks??? Incidentally Wilder never had us in the league two top 7 when it mattered. While he was here last season we had dropped from top to 6th, his annual decline had begun.
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