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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 10:14:33 GMT
Post by amarillo on Aug 21, 2014 10:14:33 GMT
Man Utds demise is topical. After 20 odd years of stability and success, football fans everywhere are enjoying watching it all collapse, nothing wrong with that.
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Post by Junior on Aug 21, 2014 10:17:57 GMT
Now doubt Manchester Utd is topical. That's what happens when you're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Poor form or not.
Would have though Oufc's form would have also been topical.
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 10:23:16 GMT
Post by amarillo on Aug 21, 2014 10:23:16 GMT
Do you really feel the need to big them up as one of the biggest clubs in the world?
Its OK, we know.
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 10:32:03 GMT
Post by sihath on Aug 21, 2014 10:32:03 GMT
Now doubt Manchester Utd is topical. That's what happens when you're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Poor form or not. Would have though Oufc's form would have also been topical. Indeed it is. That's why lots of people post about Oxford AND other things.
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Post by scotchegg on Aug 21, 2014 10:37:57 GMT
Now doubt Manchester Utd is topical. That's what happens when you're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Poor form or not. Would have though Oufc's form would have also been topical. Indeed it is. That's why lots of people post about Oxford AND other things. Careful, Junior will start stalking how many posts you've made in each section soon! Quick get a few posts in word association and start a thread about needing an experienced home grown 20 goal a season striker!!
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Post by Junior on Aug 21, 2014 11:21:41 GMT
Now doubt Manchester Utd is topical. That's what happens when you're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Poor form or not. Would have though Oufc's form would have also been topical. Indeed it is. That's why lots of people post about Oxford AND other things. Some more that others it would seem...
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 11:29:34 GMT
Post by sihath on Aug 21, 2014 11:29:34 GMT
Indeed it is. That's why lots of people post about Oxford AND other things. Some more that others it would seem... Of course some more than others. People have different posting habits. Do you want everyone to post exactly the same amount as everyone else?
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Post by amarillo on Aug 21, 2014 11:30:41 GMT
Some even have another team, which they defend passionately
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 11:41:12 GMT
Post by barmyarmy on Aug 21, 2014 11:41:12 GMT
Or they are not convinced of his long term fitness due to his bad knee injury. Was rushed back for the World Cup for Chile and has hardly kicked a ball in preseason. Anyhow, it surprises me how many people on this forum concern themselves with Manchester Utd's transfer business.. Would have thought they'd have got stuck into the numerous other topics on the forum.. So when the Mancs want him he is just what they need, when they are told to f*ck off he is a crock, is that what you are saying?
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Post by Junior on Aug 21, 2014 15:40:14 GMT
I'm saying they may not have bid ( have they bid btw ) due to concernes over his knee injury. Has he played in pre season yet?
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 16:04:56 GMT
Post by baldy on Aug 21, 2014 16:04:56 GMT
Man U have not submitted a bid for Vidal according to Juventus and, indeed, Man U themselves.
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 16:06:53 GMT
Post by baldy on Aug 21, 2014 16:06:53 GMT
I can see them signing Daley Blind. Barcelona want him but he's apparently favouring a move to Man U.
If Blind, Cuadrado and Benatia come in, along with Di Maria, then Ed Woodward will have done a great job.
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 16:27:15 GMT
Post by fistfullofdollars on Aug 21, 2014 16:27:15 GMT
I can see them signing Daley Blind. Barcelona want him but he's apparently favouring a move to Man U. If Blind, Cuadrado and Benatia come in, along with Di Maria, then Ed Woodward will have done a great job. Assuming you sign all these amazing players, where do you expect Man U to finish in the league this season?
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 21, 2014 16:40:07 GMT
I can see them signing Daley Blind. Barcelona want him but he's apparently favouring a move to Man U. If Blind, Cuadrado and Benatia come in, along with Di Maria, then Ed Woodward will have done a great job. Replace those 4 with ronaldo , bale, fabregas and Kroos and u have ur exact post from this time last year
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 16:40:52 GMT
Post by baldy on Aug 21, 2014 16:40:52 GMT
I can see them signing Daley Blind. Barcelona want him but he's apparently favouring a move to Man U. If Blind, Cuadrado and Benatia come in, along with Di Maria, then Ed Woodward will have done a great job. Assuming you sign all these amazing players, where do you expect Man U to finish in the league this season? I'll make a prediction at the end of the window. If four come in of the required quality between now and 1st September then they can win the league. No doubt about it.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 21, 2014 16:44:13 GMT
Assuming you sign all these amazing players, where do you expect Man U to finish in the league this season? I'll make a prediction at the end of the window. If four come in of the required quality between now and 1st September then they can win the league. No doubt about it. Some nice wriggle room in that statement , if they don't finish first u will just say 1 was not quite the standard
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 17:50:40 GMT
Post by fistfullofdollars on Aug 21, 2014 17:50:40 GMT
Assuming you sign all these amazing players, where do you expect Man U to finish in the league this season? I'll make a prediction at the end of the window. If four come in of the required quality between now and 1st September then they can win the league. No doubt about it. Bold The problem as I see it is that they could be exceptional players and you might sign them, but the squad still looks thin (even with these 4 potential signings) and they won't necessarily settle in straight away, differant situations but look at spurs last year who signed a host of players and only 1 or 2 really settled, I could see Man U being a real threat if they signed those players, but still not enough to win the league. Anyway, all speculation because they haven't signed them yet!
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 17:59:37 GMT
Post by amarillo on Aug 21, 2014 17:59:37 GMT
Lets come back to these predictions at the end of the window.
Because right now the idea of Man Utd finishing top 4 is pure fantasy let alone winning the league.
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 18:08:06 GMT
Post by baldy on Aug 21, 2014 18:08:06 GMT
I'll make a prediction at the end of the window. If four come in of the required quality between now and 1st September then they can win the league. No doubt about it. Bold The problem as I see it is that they could be exceptional players and you might sign them, but the squad still looks thin (even with these 4 potential signings) and they won't necessarily settle in straight away, differant situations but look at spurs last year who signed a host of players and only 1 or 2 really settled, I could see Man U being a real threat if they signed those players, but still not enough to win the league. Anyway, all speculation because they haven't signed them yet! I think you're under estimating the squad a bit. Aside of the three defenders only Nani has gone. Evra has been replaced numerically by Shaw as has one of Vidic or Ferdinand by Rojo so, yes, they're a defender light but it's odds on that will be rectified. May even be added to. They did last season sign a young Uruguayan but not sure he's ready, also Keane and Blackett have since gained first team experience.So that will be the same numbers that one the title just over twelve months ago and they won that - by ten points was it - with Vidic on one leg for virtually the entire season and Ferdinand missing every other game with a niggle. Numbers wise the outfield has been topped up by Herrera and a fit again Fletcher. That apart it's virtually the same as the title winning squad. If you stick four quality players on top of that lot then it's a great squad.
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Rojo
Aug 21, 2014 18:26:24 GMT
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Post by SteMerritt on Aug 21, 2014 18:26:24 GMT
Is it not also the same squad that finished mid table last season? Or did last season not happen in Baldyland?
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Rojo
Aug 22, 2014 4:18:48 GMT
Post by bicesteryellow on Aug 22, 2014 4:18:48 GMT
Manchester United's recent signings from Portugal:
Bébé - Never got going, and never a player of Premier League quality Nani - Good winger, but never got close to fulfilling his potential, partly because he was being constantly compared to someone else Anderson - Inconsistent, and not a league winning footballer either. Combined with Nani cost £41,000,000 Cristiano Ronaldo - Success in every sense of the word. Best footballer of his generation and sold on for a large profit, costing just £12.3m initially
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Post by sihath on Aug 22, 2014 6:01:55 GMT
Manchester United's recent signings from Portugal: Anderson - Inconsistent, and not a league winning footballer either. Combined with Nani cost £41,000,000 Surely he won a league medal while he's been there? Baldy, Junior?
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Rojo
Aug 22, 2014 7:02:30 GMT
Post by baldy on Aug 22, 2014 7:02:30 GMT
Manchester United's recent signings from Portugal: Anderson - Inconsistent, and not a league winning footballer either. Combined with Nani cost £41,000,000 Surely he won a league medal while he's been there? Baldy, Junior? Anderson scored a crucial penalty to help win the CL (That's that big cup with the jug ears for those in north London just wondering) in Moscow as did Nani. Nani, in particular, has made some vital contributions to League and cup success. I'd agree he hasn't fulfilled his potential but he's played a reasonable part in success. Anderson less so but it's not like he's contributed nothing. What's a CL win worth ? Let's be honest their combined £29m (god knows where you get £41m from) cost has easily been repaid. Bebe was a flop but so what, shit happens. Ronaldo won everything at Man U and they then made £70m on him. Portugal has been a happy hunting ground for Man U, no doubt about it.
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Rojo
Aug 22, 2014 7:16:01 GMT
Post by sihath on Aug 22, 2014 7:16:01 GMT
Surely he won a league medal while he's been there? Baldy, Junior? Anderson scored a crucial penalty to help win the CL (That's that big cup with the jug ears for those in north London just wondering) in Moscow as did Nani. Nani, in particular, has made some vital contributions to League and cup success. I'd agree he hasn't fulfilled his potential but he's played a reasonable part in success. Anderson less so but it's not like he's contributed nothing. What's a CL win worth ? Let's be honest their combined £29m (god knows where you get £41m from) cost has easily been repaid. Bebe was a flop but so what, shit happens. Ronaldo won everything at Man U and they then made £70m on him. Portugal has been a happy hunting ground for Man U, no doubt about it. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2730648/Nani-Anderson-failed-live-billing-new-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Paul-Scholes-really-flops.html£42m according to the Daily Mail. Crap Paper? Wiki say £20m for Anderson and €25.5 for Nani (£17m approx), so around £37m. Still, big clubs need to spend to get success, so £29m/£37m/£41m/£42m... it's irrelevant really.
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Post by Junior on Aug 22, 2014 7:23:58 GMT
Nani did a very decent job for Manchester Utd. Got 41 goals in 230 games. If hazard a guess he got around 50 assists as well. So near on 100 goals for Manchester Utd came from Nani.
Anderson has been a disappointment but still made vital contributions at times.
Bebe ( beer before edited! ). We all know about him.
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Rojo
Aug 22, 2014 7:24:47 GMT
Post by sihath on Aug 22, 2014 7:24:47 GMT
Nani did a very decent enough for Manchester Utd. Got 41 goals in 230 games. If hazard a guess he got around 50 assists as well. So near on 100 goals for Manchester Utd came from Nani. Anderson has been a disappointment but still made vital contributions at times. Beer. We all know about him. Mmmmmmmm... beeeeeer....
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Rojo
Aug 22, 2014 8:49:55 GMT
Post by amarillo on Aug 22, 2014 8:49:55 GMT
That apart it's virtually the same as the title winning squad. If you stick four quality players on top of that lot then it's a great squad. Except that was one of the poorest title winning squads in recent memory and that squad is now 2 years older while the rest have strengthened considerably. I'm sure you'll dispute that statement, but as I remember it that was an exceptionally poor year in the PL and Man Utd won it more by default than by being particularly impressive. This is one of the things that is causing people to have such doubts about Man Utd. Its a realisation that this decline didn't suddenly happen due to a disastrous managerial appointment, the cracks were appearing in the last couple of years of Fergies reign, but due to a combination of his brilliance and the confidence oozing from the squad as a result, those cracks were papered over. Its been more like 4 or 5 years since Man Utd had a great squad, NOT just since their last title win. That squad wouldn't win the league in the current season and might not even get top 4. Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have all improved hugely since then.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 23, 2014 10:10:45 GMT
Bet he has a good game and shows the prem what a true world class defender he is, oh no wait they forget to get him a work permit
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Rojo
Aug 23, 2014 10:13:38 GMT
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Post by stevegilbert on Aug 23, 2014 10:13:38 GMT
Bet he has a good game and shows the prem what a true world class defender he is, oh no wait they forget to get him a work permit Could it be a Liam Walker saga all over again?
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Rojo
Aug 23, 2014 11:18:30 GMT
Post by gofish on Aug 23, 2014 11:18:30 GMT
Assuming you sign all these amazing players, where do you expect Man U to finish in the league this season? I'll make a prediction at the end of the window. If four come in of the required quality between now and 1st September then they can win the league. No doubt about it. Except LVG has stated that it could take 3 years before Man Utd win the premiership. He, of course knows what's going on, you don't.
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