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Post by sarge on May 7, 2014 11:51:38 GMT
Memory not being my strongest point at times I admit, that aside....OUFC accounts are usually distributed sometime in June I seem to recall?
Said accounts, when issued and distributed cover the time span of around 18 months previous to when they are issued
I know the actual 'deal' regarding the 12th man/ supporters/ mystery percentage bar been a contentious issue almost all season, however, as Oxvox are the only elected fans group, would it be possible to petition OUFC to include the actual total amount that OUFC received, in cash terms, from the aforementioned bar for the season just ended as a footnote to the (18 month old) accounts when they are issued?
Personally Im still not happy that the very people encouraged to patronise the 12man/supporters/mystery percentage bar,... with its rubbish facilities, over priced- minimal choice- low quality drinks on offer,... are still being treated like mushrooms ( kept in the dark & fed shit) regarding what the percentage split /deal that OUFC apparently benefit from. So the chosen few who are party to the deal cant or wont divulge the deal weve been told, and reluctantly it seems 'we' to have to accept that.... Asking for the total amount that OUFC received in bar take doesnt breach any blood oaths secret handshakes etc on the subject IMO
So, on behalf of many OUFC supporters, can Oxvox request the revenue raised in total from 12th man/supporters/ mystery percentage bar for the 2013-2014 season be added as a footnote to the imminent (?) OUFC accounts -( for the 2012-2013 season) ....or alternatively, be issued/ announced seperately perhaps, at the yet to be arranged, but very much needed ASAP Fans Forum???
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Post by Mark on May 7, 2014 11:55:56 GMT
The accounts to June 2013 were filed at Companies House in January 2014. There is no legal requirement to disclose the things you want to see, so highly unlikely they will be included in the 2014 accounts either.
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Post by Mark Sennett on May 7, 2014 12:19:34 GMT
Sarge Ian Lenagan said publically on Sunday night that the club makes circa £4k per game from the bar.
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Post by SteMerritt on May 7, 2014 12:38:10 GMT
I read that comment Mark, and there was a post on here somewhere (can't find it now) questioning that figure. Would it be possible to ask whoever would know the average 'attendance' for the bar per game? How much of the £4K per game is from entry fees?
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Post by sarge on May 7, 2014 12:52:46 GMT
Sarge Ian Lenagan said publically on Sunday night that the club makes circa £4k per game from the bar. Cheers for that Mark, would it be possible to get that in a written statement or press release from the club? After all, if OUFC do receive £4000 per game from 'the bar' Id think that would be an excellent 'good news' PR story to circulate via local media especially given the catastrophic end to the season on field!!
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Post by Mark on May 7, 2014 12:53:25 GMT
I read that comment Mark, and there was a post on here somewhere (can't find it now) questioning that figure. Would it be possible to ask whoever would know the average 'attendance' for the bar per game? How much of the £4K per game is from entry fees? yellowsforum.co.uk/post/367583/threadapparently capacity of the bar is around 346. Even allowing for people leaving and more coming in, I doubt much more than two hundred is from the entrance £1, as I suspect a lot of people are ST holders anyway.
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Post by Mark Sennett on May 7, 2014 15:53:13 GMT
None of it's gained from entry fees that goes to Yellow Army. Capacity is indeed circa 350 per game. AS mentioned on a previous thread we will be holding an OxVox meeting with Ian Lenagan in the summer and this will be a question and the answer will be written down and published as always.
As for the amount paid on average for the door it's roughly £100 per game.
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Post by Junior on May 7, 2014 16:06:31 GMT
I read that comment Mark, and there was a post on here somewhere (can't find it now) questioning that figure. Would it be possible to ask whoever would know the average 'attendance' for the bar per game? How much of the £4K per game is from entry fees? yellowsforum.co.uk/post/367583/threadapparently capacity of the bar is around 346. Even allowing for people leaving and more coming in, I doubt much more than two hundred is from the entrance £1, as I suspect a lot of people are ST holders anyway. You a regular, Slappy?
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Post by Mark on May 8, 2014 8:06:51 GMT
I've found it's cheaper for me to get the train to Oxford than drive, but if I do drive I will go there. Normally has football on tv, guest speaker, london pride in bottles, good mix of people, stalls selling programmes and souvenirs, sometimes hot beef or pork rolls.
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Post by essexyellows on May 8, 2014 14:53:35 GMT
Sarge Ian Lenagan said publically on Sunday night that the club makes circa £4k per game from the bar. And nobody laughed at him ?? If the club make £4k from ALL the stadium "catering" I would be pleasantly suprised...and thats including the box hospitality, the food bars as well as the bar. if 300 folk are able to get 2 drinks each, unlikely with the quality of service, thats 600 drinks at (vague average) £4.... £2,400..... and I doubt FK is giving them 100% ! Hence the reticence to tell us the true figures.
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Post by Mark Sennett on May 8, 2014 18:49:36 GMT
I'd imagine it covers the boxes and upstairs bar alcohol reeme too. OUFC get no cut of the concourse revenue
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Post by barmyarmy on May 8, 2014 19:35:32 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true!
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 8, 2014 20:22:40 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! You have a point a good pint I might add.
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Post by essexyellows on May 9, 2014 11:42:47 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! An answer? I would beg to differ that it was an off the cuff remark with no substance. Why the initial secrecy about the deal if it is so good? If the club are earning £4k a match then shout it from the rooftops & INCREASE it!!
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Post by sihath on May 9, 2014 12:04:47 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! An answer? I would beg to differ that it was an off the cuff remark with no substance. Why the initial secrecy about the deal if it is so good? If the club are earning £4k a match then shout it from the rooftops & INCREASE it!! No Substance? It was the Chairman of the club that made the "off the cuff remark". People were quite happy to believe posters who claimed we'd get nothing until a certain level of sales was reached. I'm sure I remember someone saying it would be less than £100 per game. For whatever reason the details of the revenue split were never going to be made public. But it appears that a large chunk of money is going to the club, which is good news surely? Original Club Statement on the deal...It's up to the fans to improve the atmosphere in the 12th Man bar. WE make the atmosphere. I'd love the Priory to re-open, but it doesn't look likely, and (some of) the money the 12th Man Bar is going to the club
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Post by Paul Cannell on May 9, 2014 12:44:59 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! Nice try, but the reason people don't believe it (£4k a match) is because it's incredible; as has been demonstrated - "if 300 folk are able to get 2 drinks each, unlikely with the quality of service, thats 600 drinks at (vague average) £4.... £2,400..... and I doubt FK is giving them 100% !". The share OUFC gets won't be on revenue, because that would be fu cking idiotic given that the cost of beer and the alleged serving staff has to be met, plus overheads. It'll be based on the profit. I'm not in the industry but my understanding is the margin on a pint is under 10%, and on soft drinks it's higher. Let's play a game. 600 sales at £4 is £2,400. The margin's 25%. Whooo! £600. I'd be seriously surprised if the club is banking more than £200 per match from the revenue share on the No Chance Saloon.
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Post by sihath on May 9, 2014 12:49:48 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! Nice try, but the reason people don't believe it (£4k a match) is because it's incredible; as has been demonstrated - "if 300 folk are able to get 2 drinks each, unlikely with the quality of service, thats 600 drinks at (vague average) £4.... £2,400..... and I doubt FK is giving them 100% !". The share OUFC gets won't be on revenue, because that would be fu cking idiotic given that the cost of beer and the alleged serving staff has to be met, plus overheads. It'll be based on the profit. I'm not in the industry but my understanding is the margin on a pint is under 10%, and on soft drinks it's higher. Let's play a game. 600 sales at £4 is £2,400. The margin's 25%. Whooo! £600. I'd be seriously surprised if the club is banking more than £200 per match from the revenue share on the No Chance Saloon. There's also the lounges and hospitality drinks to include. I think it's a question for the AGM
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Post by Paul Cannell on May 9, 2014 12:56:58 GMT
I'd forgotten that. I'd still be amazed if we're banking a grand per match.
And, yeah; it's a question for the AGM. The answer will be along the lines of "We're very pleased with the contribution the revenue share is making to the club's finances, it's in 5 figures each match." Look after the pennies....
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Post by barmyarmy on May 9, 2014 14:47:54 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! Nice try, but the reason people don't believe it (£4k a match) is because it's incredible; as has been demonstrated - "if 300 folk are able to get 2 drinks each, unlikely with the quality of service, thats 600 drinks at (vague average) £4.... £2,400..... and I doubt FK is giving them 100% !". The share OUFC gets won't be on revenue, because that would be fu cking idiotic given that the cost of beer and the alleged serving staff has to be met, plus overheads. It'll be based on the profit. I'm not in the industry but my understanding is the margin on a pint is under 10%, and on soft drinks it's higher. Let's play a game. 600 sales at £4 is £2,400. The margin's 25%. Whooo! £600. I'd be seriously surprised if the club is banking more than £200 per match from the revenue share on the No Chance Saloon. Im not "trying" anything PC, as Sihath says there are others potential areas of income other than the bar. I'm sure those that are questioning if its £4k or not will want to know what he is spending it on next.......
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Post by barmyarmy on May 9, 2014 14:52:12 GMT
Isnt it strange that someone asks a question, an answer is given but because its good news the answer cant be true! An answer? I would beg to differ that it was an off the cuff remark with no substance. Why the initial secrecy about the deal if it is so good? If the club are earning £4k a match then shout it from the rooftops & INCREASE it!! I think you have just prooved my point, if its an off the cuff meaningless remark with no substance why are you hanging onto it so much? The secrecy is because Kassam is involved and he will have had that in the contract. Because the club is crap at PR!
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