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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jan 15, 2014 15:16:01 GMT
Of course, the club can decide what it charges. And in the great scheme of things, £10 or £19.50, it isn't a huge amount of difference.
BUT -
It rings very hollow after the original tie was £10.
And as the recent home performances have been so abject, it might have been a better idea to reduce the price to try and attract a few more people than to charge the maximum possible - which seems very much like extracting as much money as possible from the most die-hard supporters. It all just leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth.
I went to Gateshead at home, but I can't see myself turning up on Tuesday.
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Post by John Lennon on Jan 15, 2014 15:17:05 GMT
The football club feel that we shouldn't lower the prices against a team from the Championship. It's a fair point.
Last night, it was Championship v League 2, and the decision to lower the prices were because the bigger team were at home. Now we are at home, the situation is different.
Reducing the price could also cost us money if a bigger crowd doesn't turn up, so it's a sensible decision.
I'd love to see cheaper tickets, but this probably isn't the game to offer it. It's against decent opposition, and I'm sure we will get a good, noisy crowd.
I hope that has helped explain the reasons.
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Post by Long John Silver on Jan 15, 2014 15:20:04 GMT
Of course, the club can decide what it charges. And in the great scheme of things, £10 or £19.50, it isn't a huge amount of difference. BUT - It rings very hollow after the original tie was £10. And as the recent home performances have been so abject, it might have been a better idea to reduce the price to try and attract a few more people than to charge the maximum possible - which seems very much like extracting as much money as possible from the most die-hard supporters. It all just leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth. I went to Gateshead at home, but I can't see myself turning up on Tuesday.So did me and my lad... and we arent going Tuesday. I can only just about muster the energy to go for league games at the moment, for which we have ST's.
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Post by iambungle on Jan 15, 2014 15:25:10 GMT
If the club dropped the "on the day" price hike, that would at least be a gesture of goodwill.
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Post by Mark on Jan 15, 2014 15:29:50 GMT
Anyone else notice the Bristol Rovers ticket sale has been put back until Wednesday morning after the FA Cup replay, previously were going on sale on Monday?
OK it means the ticket office on Tuesday night isn't rammed with people trying to be Rovers tickets, but for me it's another book via internet with ticket fee and postage. That £2 could buy a half a pint of beer!
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Post by essexyellows on Jan 15, 2014 15:41:09 GMT
Of course, the club can decide what it charges. And in the great scheme of things, £10 or £19.50, it isn't a huge amount of difference. BUT - It rings very hollow after the original tie was £10. And as the recent home performances have been so abject, it might have been a better idea to reduce the price to try and attract a few more people than to charge the maximum possible - which seems very much like extracting as much money as possible from the most die-hard supporters. It all just leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth. I went to Gateshead at home, but I can't see myself turning up on Tuesday. What has been said here. If your product is looking a bit dull & jaded (like our home form) then it is sensible to put a bit of sparkle back into it.... that is commercial accumen. Rinsing the diehards for every last penny is in my humble very bad PR..... its Charlton....a poor Championship side...who charged £10 for the original fixture and , despite everything, couldn`t break 6,000 at home. A little bit of give by the club would have been nice & would have put more backsides on seats....maybe even encouraged those "day trippers" and people who are finding better things to do with their money to come back? Nice to see that the "communication & negotiation" was along the lines of "Tough shit...pay up". Hope they retain that attitude when my ST renewal drops through the door.........
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Post by southstandyellow on Jan 15, 2014 15:53:10 GMT
Tickets to watch MK Dons v Wigan Athletic were £12 last night. OUFC have left a bad taste in my mouth with their stance over this...
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Post by McVicar on Jan 15, 2014 16:10:29 GMT
The other thing is if we should get through then we have a trip to Huddersfield to face just 4 days later!! Do we have any ticket details for that yet, ie how much?
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Post by grumpygit on Jan 15, 2014 16:19:02 GMT
If me and my thirteen year old attend, it's going to cost us getting on for £50 to see a crap Championship side that we might be playing next year.
Not for me.
A lot will still be paying for Xmas. Most paydays will be 10 days later, Charlton aren't a big draw, we have been playing dire footy at home.
So offer people an incentive.
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Post by reedie8610 on Jan 15, 2014 17:04:45 GMT
Living in the north east I won't be making the trip. I paid less to watch Chelsea at Sunderland in the league cup
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Post by witneywannabe on Jan 15, 2014 17:25:35 GMT
The football club feel that we shouldn't lower the prices against a team from the Championship. It's a fair point. Last night, it was Championship v League 2, and the decision to lower the prices were because the bigger team were at home. Now we are at home, the situation is different. Reducing the price could also cost us money if a bigger crowd doesn't turn up, so it's a sensible decision. I'd love to see cheaper tickets, but this probably isn't the game to offer it. It's against decent opposition, and I'm sure we will get a good, noisy crowd. I hope that has helped explain the reasons. Good to see the voice of the fans of Oxford United have sided with the club on trying to rip off the fans! They should be enticing fans back to the club instead of driving them away with their shocking decision to stick with the normal price structure! Well done Oxford united on trying to drive away fans!
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Post by stebbesyellows on Jan 15, 2014 17:51:21 GMT
Completely agree WW.
Not charging a tenner is simply taking the p*ss out of the fans, whichever team they support, especially as that's the price I paid to get into the Valley last night, despite being a Championship side. Sure it's a commercial decision but a shortsighted one IMHO. Also, as has often been suggested, our Club might do as at - say Bradford - and have one match a season where it's pay what you want or a fiver, seems to work elsewhere and is a good gesture.
St Ebbes Yellow
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 17:51:39 GMT
The football club feel that we shouldn't lower the prices against a team from the Championship. It's a fair point. Last night, it was Championship v League 2, and the decision to lower the prices were because the bigger team were at home. Now we are at home, the situation is different. Reducing the price could also cost us money if a bigger crowd doesn't turn up, so it's a sensible decision. I'd love to see cheaper tickets, but this probably isn't the game to offer it. It's against decent opposition, and I'm sure we will get a good, noisy crowd. I hope that has helped explain the reasons. JL - Just for clarity, when you say "the football club", which individual are we talking about? Initials MB perhaps? I sort of understand the principle that if we play a higher league club it's reasonable to charge more, but just read this thread! Few seem to agree, including me. Can't see this being overturned as tickets have already been sold, but it was always going to be the most dedicated fans who turn out for this one, and you can't help feeling they're getting a roasting. What price loyalty? The club could have offered a few crumbs.
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Post by loveandpride on Jan 15, 2014 17:53:59 GMT
The football club feel that we shouldn't lower the prices against a team from the Championship. It's a fair point. Last night, it was Championship v League 2, and the decision to lower the prices were because the bigger team were at home. Now we are at home, the situation is different. Reducing the price could also cost us money if a bigger crowd doesn't turn up, so it's a sensible decision. I'd love to see cheaper tickets, but this probably isn't the game to offer it. It's against decent opposition, and I'm sure we will get a good, noisy crowd. I hope that has helped explain the reasons. Are you quoting someone from the club there JL? you need to explain
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Post by scotters on Jan 15, 2014 18:02:58 GMT
Not really fair to compare what we are charging to what Charlton were charging, IMO. Charlton had an unfashionable draw against a team well below them in the league, and one that had already visited earlier that season. And maybe they can afford it more easily than us. If they'd had a premiership team dropping in I bet they wouldn't have been so keen to slash the prices.
I'd love it as much as the next man to get a cheapo ticket for a game. And you can call it a goodwill gesture if you want - but what exactly does the club get out of subsidising games like this? It's got to make a living. You're never going to get much of a crowd for a game like this, are people saying that the club should make a loss on top?
To say that the club is taking the p*ss or roasting the fans etc by charging the same for an FA Cup game against a Championship team as for a league 2 game is a bit OTT if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 18:06:40 GMT
Not really fair to compare what we are charging to what Charlton were charging, IMO. Charlton had an unfashionable draw against a team well below them in the league, and one that had already visited earlier that season. And maybe they can afford it more easily than us. If they'd had a premiership team dropping in I bet they wouldn't have been so keen to slash the prices. I'd love it as much as the next man to get a cheapo ticket for a game. And you can call it a goodwill gesture if you want - but what exactly does the club get out of subsidising games like this? It's got to make a living. You're never going to get much of a crowd for a game like this, are people saying that the club should make a loss on top? To say that the club is taking the p*ss or roasting the fans etc by charging the same for an FA Cup game against a Championship team as for a league 2 game is a bit OTT if you ask me. Depends whether you believe the club could achieve the same revenue by attracting more fans at a lower price. Not looking for charity, just not convinced this pricing structure will deliver higher revenues.
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Post by scotters on Jan 15, 2014 18:13:05 GMT
Not really fair to compare what we are charging to what Charlton were charging, IMO. Charlton had an unfashionable draw against a team well below them in the league, and one that had already visited earlier that season. And maybe they can afford it more easily than us. If they'd had a premiership team dropping in I bet they wouldn't have been so keen to slash the prices. I'd love it as much as the next man to get a cheapo ticket for a game. And you can call it a goodwill gesture if you want - but what exactly does the club get out of subsidising games like this? It's got to make a living. You're never going to get much of a crowd for a game like this, are people saying that the club should make a loss on top? To say that the club is taking the p*ss or roasting the fans etc by charging the same for an FA Cup game against a Championship team as for a league 2 game is a bit OTT if you ask me. Depends whether you believe the club could achieve the same revenue by attracting more fans at a lower price. Not looking for charity, just not convinced this pricing structure will deliver higher revenues. Fair point, but given that their costs stay the same, chopping half off the price of a ticket is likely to wipe out the majority of the club's profit, I would have thought. You'd have to have a hell of a lot of extra people turning up to make it pay. I'm not convinced that you can attract that many new people to an evening replay in winter during the school term time. But I'm not an expert on pricing structure, so could be wrong.
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Post by rollsy on Jan 15, 2014 18:13:23 GMT
Shocking decision by the club. Home games are not very tempting as it is. We get poor crowds for midweeks games in the league, so I can see a crowd of 2,000. Tenner adults and fiver concessions would of been fine. And would of got a crowd of at least 5k imo. Everyone I've spoke to about the prices today are not going to go now. And some of them are casual fans, the sort we need to attract back!!
What's the view like of the pitch from the grass bank at the fence end?
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Post by mcf86 on Jan 15, 2014 18:17:23 GMT
Shocking decision by the club. Home games are not very tempting as it is. We get poor crowds for midweeks games in the league, so I can see a crowd of 2,000. Tenner adults and fiver concessions would of been fine. And would of got a crowd of at least 5k imo. Everyone I've spoke to about the prices today are not going to go now. And some of them are casual fans, the sort we need to attract back!! What's the view like of the pitch from the grass bank at the fence end?[/quote] Dunno, but it will still be CW's team playing on it.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jan 15, 2014 18:18:40 GMT
A reasonable argument Scotters, but we don't actually know what costs are incurred by the club in putting on an extra fixture - so we don't know what would constitute a loss.
I am not convinced that Charlton are a fashionable draw as far as we are concerned, whether they are a championship club or not. We have to presume that the financial side of the club has calculated that fewer people paying more money will earn them more in the short, medium and long term than reducing the prices and getting more bums on seats. The attendance figure on Tuesday will be very interesting, and I hope those that stump up get good value for money.
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Post by Mark on Jan 15, 2014 18:28:29 GMT
As pointed out elsewhere, people will pay full price to watch teams like Newport on a Tuesday night, or Accrington on the last home game of the season.
Why should a championship club like Charlton be cheaper?
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Post by mcf86 on Jan 15, 2014 18:28:29 GMT
The football club feel that we shouldn't lower the prices against a team from the Championship. It's a fair point. Last night, it was Championship v League 2, and the decision to lower the prices were because the bigger team were at home. Now we are at home, the situation is different. Reducing the price could also cost us money if a bigger crowd doesn't turn up, so it's a sensible decision. I'd love to see cheaper tickets, but this probably isn't the game to offer it. It's against decent opposition, and I'm sure we will get a good, noisy crowd. I hope that has helped explain the reasons. Why shouldn't 'we' lower the prices just because it's a Championship team?? It's not a 'fair point' to me. It says to me the Club are thinking more about how much they can make -than thinking about the life blood of the Club, its Supporters. Yes reducing the cost would represent a gamble, but so does charging the full amount- and i'd wager they will lose out this time, And, 'lose' more than kerching- a lot more in the League matches to come. Might be right about getting a good noisy crowd- empty stands tend to echo.
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Post by m on Jan 15, 2014 19:23:05 GMT
As pointed out elsewhere, people will pay full price to watch teams like Newport on a Tuesday night, or Accrington on the last home game of the season. Why should a championship club like Charlton be cheaper? I don't use this board to knock the club and I'm not about to start now. That said, it's very unlikely that I will go to the Charlton game. There's no sensible answer to your question. From my point of view; it's January and I'm skint. Were it Newport I would be going, simply because I have a season ticket. I went to the Gateshead game, and, sad to say, had the prices been reduced for this game, I would have been more inclined to make the effort to go. I understand the clubs reasoning, it's not a charity, and I'm not writing to complain - just stating the fact that I'm unlikely to go. I'd be very surprised if I were the only one feeling this way.
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Post by johnox37en on Jan 15, 2014 19:29:29 GMT
No one has mentioned TVP in this, as its pretty sure that they would take a large chunk of the gate money.
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Post by egox on Jan 15, 2014 19:29:41 GMT
The football club feel that we shouldn't lower the prices against a team from the Championship. It's a fair point. Last night, it was Championship v League 2, and the decision to lower the prices were because the bigger team were at home. Now we are at home, the situation is different. Reducing the price could also cost us money if a bigger crowd doesn't turn up, so it's a sensible decision. I'd love to see cheaper tickets, but this probably isn't the game to offer it. It's against decent opposition, and I'm sure we will get a good, noisy crowd. I hope that has helped explain the reasons. You sound like a politician. Be careful....you could alienate a few fans with your sympathy vote on this subject. I appreciate all you do in the name of Oufc but are you being true to yourself with those comments in respect of the Oufc stance on this matter. Just think of the goodwill gesture to the fans if the club said that to 'reward their loyalty' they decided to offer £10 a ticket for all parts of the game. I was looking forward to a change of scenario and sitting in the north stand ( I am a ST holder in SSL).
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Post by John Lennon on Jan 15, 2014 19:40:13 GMT
I can see how my comments have looked. I was busy at work and wanted to try and get some information out. I do understand why the club have made the decision, and I think it's sensible one financially.
But I am a supporter of this football club, and I can understand why fellow fans are not happy. Just because I think the club are being sensible, it doesn't mean I haven't given my opinion and expressed how fans feel, because I have and will continue to do so.
I love our football club, and want the best for it. I am a fan, and if it gets to the point that I'm not being true to myself or fellow supporters, then I will walk away from the Yellow Army.
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Post by Mark on Jan 15, 2014 19:40:37 GMT
So the relevant points would seem to be:- Season ticket holders resent having to pay full ticket price when their average match day ticket price is more like £13, because they've already paid for the season ticket and it's a sunk cost, so any games they pay for are extra.
On the day purchasers resent having to pay full ticket price when they are happy to pay full price for any other league two game because ...?
[add in here skintness, travel costs, it's midweek, it's unexpected]
It's not a minor cup competition like the FA Trophy where we would face teams from League 1 or 2.
It's not a medium trophy competition like the Carling Cup where we would initially face teams from League 1 or 2, but possibly higher in later rounds.
It's not an FA Cup game against unattractive non-league opposition, or unattractive L1 or L2 opposition.
It is though an FA Cup game against Championship opposition, not the most exciting, but still a good draw.
I feel these are all good reasons not for dropping the price. It would be helpful if someone would post up what cup games have been discounted in recent years.
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Post by essexyellows on Jan 15, 2014 19:48:58 GMT
The idea is that the Club had an opportunity to engender some GOODWILL and get MORE people through the gate by giving the paying fans an added incentive to attend. The costs will remain the same whether there are 2,000 or 5,000.....but with a higher crowd more programmes,food etc will get sold.
Obviously the most blinkered zealots will be unable to see this.
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Post by berliner on Jan 15, 2014 19:59:35 GMT
My idea would be to keep the prices at 19 quid, BUT be allowed to bring one adult and up to four kids for free! Pack them in, get the noise levels up and lets have a good old-fashioned giant killing under the lights in the rain...just like back at the Manor. Take them to pens and get Clarkey to score the winner like Arjan van Heusden and Paul Lundin! Then a massive pitch invasion.
Ah well, I can dream still. 2,500 sitting on their hands and a 2-0 defeat instead...
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Post by carefreeoufc on Jan 15, 2014 20:00:13 GMT
What with the famous dominos advert I'd hoped maybe the club were going to do a 2 for Tuesday offer working out around £10 per person.
Never mind, definitely won't bother going now so has made the decision easy.
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