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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 17:48:53 GMT
Reference your last sentence, not the most clever thing you have wrote. Maybe those fans have seen the way we have stuttered in the previous 3 home games. Quite likely they have, and they've moaned through all three. We're in our worst position this season - 4th with one defeat, there's another 19 teams who would be happy to swap with us. We really don't have much to complain about. "Supporters" should do just that - *SUPPORT* the team through thick and thin, and those who won't do that do no favours to the club at all. Well there's financial benefits...
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Post by behindthegoal on Sept 21, 2013 17:55:08 GMT
Thought we were outclassed at times,I'd be very surprised if chesterfield don't go up At times!!!!! ?? All through the game , more like. Second rate , we are miles away from the chesterfield standard, So slow in our build up.....carthorses against greyhounds
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Post by behindthegoal on Sept 21, 2013 17:57:19 GMT
The best team won....BUT we had more concrete chances!!.....IF only we could have put just one away!! Eh? , thank goodness Clarke was at his best
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Post by oufcgav on Sept 21, 2013 18:00:33 GMT
Dunno, there were some real dickheads around today. Some of the comments shouted were just pathetic (and once or twice contradictory to what the same person had said minutes earlier). What stand was that in? East stand... The guy trying to claim he was better than Kitson was a highlight.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 21, 2013 18:02:21 GMT
My comments are strong for a reason. On the way out I heard some people talking about a chap near them that celebrated when Smalley hit the post because presumably it meant we weren't going to win. Is that what this has come down to? That attitude amazes me. Who does that?
Other than that, some people were intent on moaning today and they didn't stop all game. I understand we all like a moan, but some people could take that energy they put into moaning and support the team instead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 18:10:27 GMT
"Supporters" should do just that - *SUPPORT* the team through thick and thin, and those who won't do that do no favours to the club at all. This topic comes up at regular intervals on here, and elicits exactly the same responses. Fairly boring really, but here goes. I don't boo at matches. I do sometimes shout criticism when I think it's deserved. I would make these points about your post; 1. Please don't tell me, as a long-standing supporter of OUFC, what I should or shouldn't do. You don't have the authority; 2. Match-attending supporters spend their money to watch their club. At our level, without massive TV funds or sponsorship, that money is the life blood of the club. I would suggest this is doing the club a very big "favour" and think this entitles them to express their views, don't you? I would agree that outright abuse is taking things too far, but offering criticism is not. It's reasonable and their right. The fact that you disagree with the content of what they shout is irrelevant and does not make their status as a supporter any weaker. Feel free to shout out your own views;
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Post by yellowshark on Sept 21, 2013 18:10:55 GMT
Quite likely they have, and they've moaned through all three. We're in our worst position this season - 4th with one defeat, there's another 19 teams who would be happy to swap with us. We really don't have much to complain about. "Supporters" should do just that - *SUPPORT* the team through thick and thin, and those who won't do that do no favours to the club at all. Well there's financial benefits... TBH I had thought of that before I posted, and obviously it's true for a single game, but I'm not so sure about the long term. It's no good for a teams morale if they get abuse at HT for being a goal down, and that can set up a vicious circle, and secondly it puts off (some) casual fans from coming more regularly.
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Post by dubaiyellow on Sept 21, 2013 18:24:48 GMT
we got beat 1-0 by the best team and also the form team in the league. We have injuries to key players, have players who are not fully fit on the pitch and played for a large part of the game with only 10 men. We still managed to create good chances and although wouldn't have deserved it, we could have snatched a point today. Lets not overreact. there is a very long way to go, hopefully the boys will bounce back with a good result next week. Going to be an interesting one considering injuries and suspensions, looking forward to seeing how are young players get on.
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Post by yellowshark on Sept 21, 2013 18:28:03 GMT
"Supporters" should do just that - *SUPPORT* the team through thick and thin, and those who won't do that do no favours to the club at all. This topic comes up at regular intervals on here, and elicits exactly the same responses. Fairly boring really, but here goes. I don't boo at matches. I do sometimes shout criticism when I think it's deserved. I would make these points about your post; 1. Please don't tell me, as a long-standing supporter of OUFC, what I should or shouldn't do. You don't have the authority; 2. Match-attending supporters spend their money to watch their club. At our level, without massive TV funds or sponsorship, that money is the life blood of the club. I would suggest this is doing the club a very big "favour" and think this entitles them to express their views, don't you? I would agree that outright abuse is taking things too far, but offering criticism is not. It's reasonable and their right. The fact that you disagree with the content of what they shout is irrelevant and does not make their status as a supporter any weaker. Feel free to shout out your own views; Actually I think we're more in agreement than you realise. I have no problem with criticizing individual poor play, at least if it's consistently poor. As far as point one is concerned you're correct, but none of us has the authority to tell anyone else what they can and can't say at a game or post on a forum. But everyone does. I agree with you on point two - it's the outright, and in some cases continual, abuse that I'm complaining about. I offer no opinion about the status of any supporter, but my own view is that some behaviour is detrimental to the to the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 18:39:03 GMT
This topic comes up at regular intervals on here, and elicits exactly the same responses. Fairly boring really, but here goes. I don't boo at matches. I do sometimes shout criticism when I think it's deserved. I would make these points about your post; 1. Please don't tell me, as a long-standing supporter of OUFC, what I should or shouldn't do. You don't have the authority; 2. Match-attending supporters spend their money to watch their club. At our level, without massive TV funds or sponsorship, that money is the life blood of the club. I would suggest this is doing the club a very big "favour" and think this entitles them to express their views, don't you? I would agree that outright abuse is taking things too far, but offering criticism is not. It's reasonable and their right. The fact that you disagree with the content of what they shout is irrelevant and does not make their status as a supporter any weaker. Feel free to shout out your own views; Actually I think we're more in agreement than you realise. I have no problem with criticizing individual poor play, at least if it's consistently poor. As far as point one is concerned you're correct, but none of us has the authority to tell anyone else what they can and can't say at a game or post on a forum. But everyone does. I agree with you on point two - it's the outright, and in some cases continual, abuse that I'm complaining about. I offer no opinion about the status of any supporter, but my own view is that some behaviour is detrimental to the to the club. Thank you Mr Shark. Nice to have a civilised debate. It was the notion that "supporters should support" that bemused me. You seemed to be suggesting that offering vociferous criticism wasn't the act of a proper supporter, whereas I think it's a valid part of supporting. If you were referring only to the more extreme people who shout random, contradictary abuse all match, fair enough.
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Post by londonroader on Sept 21, 2013 18:45:48 GMT
Reference your last sentence, not the most clever thing you have wrote. Maybe those fans have seen the way we have stuttered in the previous 3 home games. Quite likely they have, and they've moaned through all three. We're in our worst position this season - 4th with one defeat, there's another 19 teams who would be happy to swap with us. We really don't have much to complain about. "Supporters" should do just that - *SUPPORT* the team through thick and thin, and those who won't do that do no favours to the club at all. The problem is, possibly these home fans have not seen the away wins, so can only judge the performances on pretty average fare.
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Post by londonroader on Sept 21, 2013 18:48:11 GMT
East stand... The guy trying to claim he was better than Kitson was a highlight. Luckily I don't reside in that stand, it sounds a barrel of laughs.
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Post by oxymoron on Sept 21, 2013 18:52:19 GMT
I thought the east stand crowd was much more "supportive" today than I might have expected from the scoreline. The usual reaction to a goal scored against wasn't forthcoming, the pavlovian reaction to the halftime whistle didn't happen and the typical groundswell of moans and groans just didn't, well, swell.
Full marks to ALL the support for their efforts and full marks to the players, who despite being second best for parts of the game, kept going and very nearly snatched one at the end. People say we wouldn't have deserved it, but we've played worse than that in every game(?) this season and come away with something, so if we had nicked a point, I wouldn't be dismissive.
A lot has been said of the "never say die" attitude we seem to have nurtured this season and that was there again in spades. Next week has become a harder task than we might have expected before the game, but with the qualities we are exhibiting, I'm sure that however gets the nod to start, we will have a good chance of getting back to winning ways.
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Post by spireite1 on Sept 21, 2013 18:59:10 GMT
The amount of money Chesterfield are chucking at team they should.... Hi, guys, Not come on to gloat at all. Been a heavy week work wise and just got in only having seen the result. The comment regarding the money being spent is way off the mark - we are only allowed to spend according to the capping rule. Yes we have some biggish names but Evatt and Mc Sheffrey are on cheap deals as they are using us to try and re establish their careers - unfortunately they can't get in the team. Anyway the game lads :- Did the pattern of play by us mirror my earlier thoughts. Did you miss you're injured guys, would they have made a big difference. Dave.
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Post by Kris Grebis on Sept 21, 2013 19:02:08 GMT
The amount of money Chesterfield are chucking at team they should.... Hi, guys, Not come on to gloat at all. Been a heavy week work wise and just got in only having seen the result. The comment regarding the money being spent is way off the mark - we are only allowed to spend according to the capping rule. Yes we have some biggish names but Evatt and Mc Sheffrey are on cheap deals as they are using us to try and re establish their careers - unfortunately they can't get in the team. Anyway the game lads :- Did the pattern of play by us mirror my earlier thoughts. Did you miss you're injured guys, would they have made a big difference. Dave. You are definitely a stronger team, but largely because of your midfielders keeping the ball so well. We missed our captain Jake Wright because he knows how to keep the ball whereas his replacement Raynes - well keeping the ball is the last thing he's good at. We could still have easily got a point or more if it wasn't for sending off / chances mised etc. but you will probably be above us at the end of the season.
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Post by yellowshark on Sept 21, 2013 19:03:57 GMT
Thank you Mr Shark. Nice to have a civilised debate. It was the notion that "supporters should support" that bemused me. You seemed to be suggesting that offering vociferous criticism wasn't the act of a proper supporter, whereas I think it's a valid part of supporting. If you were referring only to the more extreme people who shout random, contradictary abuse all match, fair enough. By "supporters should support" I meant behave in a way that will encourage the team to better efforts, rather than spreading gloom and despondency to all within earshot, all game, every game.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2013 19:09:04 GMT
Hi, guys, Not come on to gloat at all. Been a heavy week work wise and just got in only having seen the result. The comment regarding the money being spent is way off the mark - we are only allowed to spend according to the capping rule. Yes we have some biggish names but Evatt and Mc Sheffrey are on cheap deals as they are using us to try and re establish their careers - unfortunately they can't get in the team. Anyway the game lads :- Did the pattern of play by us mirror my earlier thoughts. Did you miss you're injured guys, would they have made a big difference. Dave. You are definitely a stronger team, but largely because of your midfielders keeping the ball so well. We missed our captain Jake Wright because he knows how to keep the ball whereas his replacement Raynes - well keeping the ball is the last thing he's good at. We could still have easily got a point or more if it wasn't for sending off / chances mised etc. but you will probably be above us at the end of the season. We didn't miss Wright because of his ball retention ! He'll think nothing of finding row Z. Just like Raynes. This bloke from Chesterfield must be wondering what he's walked in to with this sort of surmising. We didn't miss anybody. Chesterfield were quicker, sharper, more precise, more incisive and more clinical in all areas. End of.
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Post by reedie8610 on Sept 21, 2013 19:13:47 GMT
Now is when we need too be strong as supporters. Our best 11 is a match for any in this league But were probably gona have 4/5 of our best players missing next week as always the support will be magnificent at Hartlepooll. We need to stay supportive of the team at home get a fully fit team back together and it's onward and upward
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Post by behindthegoal on Sept 21, 2013 19:34:49 GMT
This bloke from Chesterfield must be wondering what he's walked in to with this sort of surmising.
We didn't miss anybody. Chesterfield were quicker, sharper, more precise, more incisive and more clinical in all areas.
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Precisely!!!!!!!
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Post by spireite1 on Sept 21, 2013 19:39:22 GMT
We've had a reasonable time with injuries but a the same time we have had good squad players who can play in a couple of positions; Hardly any midweek games helps and allows injured players time to recover before the next game. Bad injuries take their toll however especially when you get them along with suspensions.
This is what you are going through atm but you are still in a good position and if memory serves me right this has been a good start for you in a new campaign.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Sept 21, 2013 20:05:39 GMT
I think your team was excellent today; quicker, more intelligent and a credit to the game.
We could have nicked a draw, we played pretty well and never gave up. It was the best football match, for football, I've seen at the Kashsham for a long while. Fear us at your place.
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Post by oxymoron on Sept 21, 2013 20:13:48 GMT
Chesterfield were quicker, sharper, more precise, more incisive and more clinical in all areas. Hence the 1-0 scoreline, they really taught us a footballing lesson we will never forget today.......
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Post by chippsy on Sept 21, 2013 20:29:28 GMT
Chesterfield were quicker, sharper, more precise, more incisive and more clinical in all areas. Hence the 1-0 scoreline, they really taught us a footballing lesson we will never forget today....... Best team to visit the Kassam for a long while IMO, which is why I am determined not to be too downbeat about the outcome. Obviously hate to lose but we could just as easily have nicked a goal with some good passages of play and let's not forget we had 10 men for a significant chunk of the 2nd half. Still very much a believer!!
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 21, 2013 21:01:52 GMT
If you wish too see it that way, to lose 1-0 with 10 men at home against team who are better than you, it's not that disappointing. When we broke off Chesterfield's play, they looked normal.
Wilder was right. Our players need to roll around when the oppo make contact. Too often our players are honest and don't play at theatrics at the merest contact.
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Post by oxymoron on Sept 21, 2013 21:29:39 GMT
We really need a sarcasm smiley.....
Chesterfield, who we must remember were quicker, sharper, more precise, more incisive and more clinical in all areas, could only manage a single goal against a team that were seemingly beaten before they had even set foot on the pitch.
Yes, I'll concede they were better - but not that much better - what really matters is that they were consistently good, whereas we were only good for about 20-30 minutes in each half.
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Post by spireite1 on Sept 22, 2013 19:44:17 GMT
Hence the 1-0 scoreline, they really taught us a footballing lesson we will never forget today....... Best team to visit the Kassam for a long while IMO, which is why I am determined not to be too downbeat about the outcome. Obviously hate to lose but we could just as easily have nicked a goal with some good passages of play and let's not forget we had 10 men for a significant chunk of the 2nd half. Still very much a believer!! Just seen that Mark Richards missed the game lol. Who do you feel was our best player (if any) Hird is on the transfer list but refused to sign for Rotherham and preferred to stay and fight for his place - been outstanding this season. What did you think of the goal scorer Humphreys, told you he's been a revelation? Anyway guys I'll be on my way unless I need to reply - As Arnie says ' I'll be back' come the return fixture' Thanx for the welcome and responses. Dave.
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Post by eighteen93 on Sept 22, 2013 21:34:10 GMT
Morsy and Ryan impressed me along with Roberts.
However your best player and surely destined to play much higher Is your no.6 Liam Cooper. Can't believe you got him for nothing from Hull City. Very comfortable with the ball and has a great left foot.
Sam Hird is very decent too.
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Post by one trick Raponi on Sept 23, 2013 19:27:39 GMT
Best team to visit the Kassam for a long while IMO, which is why I am determined not to be too downbeat about the outcome. Obviously hate to lose but we could just as easily have nicked a goal with some good passages of play and let's not forget we had 10 men for a significant chunk of the 2nd half. Still very much a believer!! Just seen that Mark Richards missed the game lol. Who do you feel was our best player (if any) Hird is on the transfer list but refused to sign for Rotherham and preferred to stay and fight for his place - been outstanding this season. What did you think of the goal scorer Humphreys, told you he's been a revelation? Anyway guys I'll be on my way unless I need to reply - As Arnie says ' I'll be back' come the return fixture' Thanx for the welcome and responses. Dave. Chesterfield are in for a very good season. You've got a lot of talented players and play the right way, good football and attack in numbers. Humphreys got an easy ride imo Alfie didn't get at him enough. Took his goal well but the players who impressed me were Drew Talbot (made the most of the acres infront of him), your two centre backs and Jay O'Shea on the left. Your midfield were tidy and Jimmy Ryan is class. Very good side for L2.
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