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Tiendalli
Nov 11, 2017 18:18:30 GMT
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Post by Marked Ox on Nov 11, 2017 18:18:30 GMT
What does he add to the team?
I know he has had terrible injury problems but I can't see anything other than him being a liability. The injuries maybe would have affected him and to play in the PL he clearly once was a player.
Now though he has no pace, defensive positioning is awful and very rarely gets forward*. Canice Carroll will make mistakes but he is a better player (now) and should be playing ahead of Tiendalli.
*Tbf Ricardinho wasn't much better going forward today which left the wide players easy to close down. Is this Pep getting the fullbacks to be more defensive?
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Post by oxfordboy on Nov 11, 2017 18:39:55 GMT
He certainly wasn't good today, but I didn't think he was any worse than quite a few others, ideally i'd like us to get a new right back in January, but with 3 already that seems highly unlikely
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Post by Toeby on Nov 11, 2017 18:48:22 GMT
I thought he was inspirational today and had a key role in the equaliser where he tricked the whole stadium by lulling Northampton into a counter attack. Of course, he knew full well that Mousinho would win the 50/50, play the ball out to Henry who would slide it into Thomas to stick away.
Great work, keep it up Dwight.
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Post by ascotyellow on Nov 11, 2017 19:19:28 GMT
Its not on that hes taking the place of Carroll. Our club should be encouraging young talent not using the likes of tiendalli to hold them back
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Post by Yellow River on Nov 11, 2017 19:31:18 GMT
Its not on that hes taking the place of Carroll. Our club should be encouraging young talent not using the likes of tiendalli to hold them back Can you imagine Appleton playing Tiendalli instead of Carroll? Too many average ageing players with histories of injury to fill out the squad. A squad of quality over quantity is the way to go with hungry young players, plus one or two experienced older heads to help out.
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Post by shosho on Nov 11, 2017 19:33:54 GMT
Whoever plays RB is going to have a tough time with Hall in front of them
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Tiendalli
Nov 11, 2017 19:38:21 GMT
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 19:38:21 GMT
Whoever plays RB is going to have a tough time with Hall in front of them Yep, you're right. His defensive qualities are diabolical.
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Post by malcolmsmoustache on Nov 11, 2017 19:40:59 GMT
I wasn't there today. But I was at Vale and Fleetwood. Based on those two games, he is so far past it, that- were we to release him tomorrow- he would never get another pro contaract, certainly not in England. Absolutely dreadful player. In no way equipped for L1 football. No pace, no awareness, no anything tbh. A quite appalling player who should have his contract cancelled out of kindness.
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Post by shosho on Nov 11, 2017 19:42:40 GMT
Whoever plays RB is going to have a tough time with Hall in front of them Yep, you're right. His defensive qualities are diabolical. Tiendalli wasn’t great, but he had next to no help from Hall. Even the previously derided (for effort) Thomas tracked where Hall should have been.
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Tiendalli
Nov 11, 2017 19:57:11 GMT
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Post by Barts on Nov 11, 2017 19:57:11 GMT
First time I've seen Tiendalli. He's crap. Why Carroll isn't in front of him I've no idea and did I hear right, Ribero was rested!! Pep Clotet? Pep Noclue!!
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Post by dabigfella on Nov 11, 2017 19:59:38 GMT
Tiendali tends to get a nose bleed if he goes over the half way line.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Nov 11, 2017 20:13:59 GMT
Reminded me of Peter Leven without the good bits.
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Tiendalli
Nov 11, 2017 20:31:46 GMT
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Post by ciaranjonlucas on Nov 11, 2017 20:31:46 GMT
Whoever plays RB is going to have a tough time with Hall in front of them Great shout this. For me that's why George Baldock was so bloody good for us. He had Macca supporting him on the right hand side. Say what you will about Macca but he never failed to track back.
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Post by bigalan on Nov 11, 2017 21:02:10 GMT
We call him the crab, goes sideways or backwards almost all of the time, not good enough to fill the full back position.
I would rather Canice play or Ribs when fit, let him go and save a wage.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Nov 11, 2017 22:28:26 GMT
Yep, you're right. His defensive qualities are diabolical. Tiendalli wasn’t great, but he had next to no help from Hall. Even the previously derided (for effort) Thomas tracked where Hall should have been. Hall's tracking back today was lamentable. There were times he looked like he couldn't be arsed and just left others to do his job. Wes looked distinctly unimpressed when he had to that job for the 2nd time in 10 mins because was ambling back from an attack. When the rep on Tiendalli from fans is that he is atrocious, I was surprised today as he wasn't that. There were times he struggled, there were times he was lost, but he wasn't as bad as advertised. I was expecting something truly awful. The lack of cover in the middle of the field didn't help either.
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Tiendalli
Nov 11, 2017 22:54:06 GMT
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Nov 11, 2017 22:54:06 GMT
I think he's shot to shit, to be blunt. Two years without playing football will do that. It's not his fault that he can hardly run anymore, and ultimately he took a contract that he was offered and there's nothing wrong with that. But I doubt he'd get another one after he leaves here, whenever that ends up being.
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Post by uptheus on Nov 11, 2017 23:03:57 GMT
How the guy is a professional footballer is beyond me. Offered absolutely nothing and always offloaded the ball as quickly as possible. Our midfield are clueless and too gung ho. They need to be more thoughtful/cute to crack open defences, but they're too young.
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Tiendalli
Nov 12, 2017 8:17:08 GMT
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Nov 12, 2017 8:17:08 GMT
Can’t pass, never tackles, no energy, doesn’t close down, gets out of position, looks lost. Otherwise he’s quite good.
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Tiendalli
Nov 12, 2017 8:22:46 GMT
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Post by bigfella72 on Nov 12, 2017 8:22:46 GMT
First time I’ve seen him play and I’ve been one to give him the benefit of the doubt until yesterday, 3/10 for me and think I’d have done a better job tbh
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Post by harrycarry on Nov 12, 2017 8:51:19 GMT
Perhaps he will turn out like Brian Wilsterman. AKA
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel
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Post by diagocostapacket on Nov 12, 2017 8:59:17 GMT
In his defence he was good at Fleetwood any anyone who was actually at that game I'm sure would agree with me. He put in some excellent tackles and was defensively sound. He's not by any means match fit or up to speed with the div 1 game but I think that will come. He's certainly good enough for an average Div 1 side like ours.
I think Shosho hit the nail on the head, we could have Bacary Sagna at RB and he would be ineffective until we get the Midfield sorted out. If we are going to play the defensive game we at least should have some defensive midfielders.
All to often this season the defence has been beleaguered because the ball once cleared or moved out of defence has come straight back.
Our best right side combination by far has been Henry, Ribs and Nelson but Nelson looks like he's going to be side lined for a while and Ribeiro is obviously not sound and has a chronic problem, probably his knee. I would be surprised if his career isn't cut short come May because no team in this league can afford to pay a player for just half a dozen good games a season.
I think we need to get Carroll into the side immediately in the midfield on the right just in front of Tiendalli or Ribs if he's sound. Preferably Ribs, because when fit he actually is quite quick and gets forward well.
I've lost count of the number of times when he has played and made an overlap he either hasn't received the pass or no-one from midfield could be arsed to drop back and cover making him look like a complete dick.
I don't think ( and never have ) the problem we have lies with our players, moreover its with Clothead ... lets be honest with ourselves he is completely out of his depth and doesn't have a clue, he's tactically blinkered to one style of play and one style only.
We could and should have easily won at least 3 of the last 5 games had we started the match in the same attacking mode that we finished, especially at home where we generally seem to have absolutely no home advantage whatsoever.
I had a Japanese business man staying with me this week and took him to the game yesterday. He thought Northampton were the home team and in his words "Oxflord were Clap"
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Post by nottsyellow on Nov 12, 2017 10:26:55 GMT
His record to date for OUFC:- MK Dons away - 20 minutes then injured Fleetwood - Lost 0-2 Port Vales - Lost 0-2 MK Dons - Lost 3-4 Northampton - Lost 1-2
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 12, 2017 10:43:21 GMT
In his defence he was good at Fleetwood any anyone who was actually at that game I'm sure would agree with me. He put in some excellent tackles and was defensively sound. He's not by any means match fit or up to speed with the div 1 game but I think that will come. He's certainly good enough for an average Div 1 side like ours. I think Shosho hit the nail on the head, we could have Bacary Sagna at RB and he would be ineffective until we get the Midfield sorted out. If we are going to play the defensive game we at least should have some defensive midfielders. All to often this season the defence has been beleaguered because the ball once cleared or moved out of defence has come straight back. Our best right side combination by far has been Henry, Ribs and Nelson but Nelson looks like he's going to be side lined for a while and Ribeiro is obviously not sound and has a chronic problem, probably his knee. I would be surprised if his career isn't cut short come May because no team in this league can afford to pay a player for just half a dozen good games a season. I think we need to get Carroll into the side immediately in the midfield on the right just in front of Tiendalli or Ribs if he's sound. Preferably Ribs, because when fit he actually is quite quick and gets forward well. I've lost count of the number of times when he has played and made an overlap he either hasn't received the pass or no-one from midfield could be arsed to drop back and cover making him look like a complete dick. I don't think ( and never have ) the problem we have lies with our players, moreover its with Clothead ... lets be honest with ourselves he is completely out of his depth and doesn't have a clue, he's tactically blinkered to one style of play and one style only. We could and should have easily won at least 3 of the last 5 games had we started the match in the same attacking mode that we finished, especially at home where we generally seem to have absolutely no home advantage whatsoever. I had a Japanese business man staying with me this week and took him to the game yesterday. He thought Northampton were the home team and in his words "Oxflord were Clap" Sorry I was at Fleetwood one bit of skill in the first half and that was that, 2nd half he was giving the ball away more times than he was giving it a team mate.
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Post by malcolmsmoustache on Nov 12, 2017 11:09:05 GMT
Yup. And I was at Fleetwood. He has one trick (flicks the ball through his legs) and that's it. At Fleetwood, he was beyond useless.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Nov 12, 2017 11:52:24 GMT
I kept an eye on him in the second half yesterday since he was down at the East Stand end. His one pass was back to where it came from (he wasn't alone in that though!) and his positional play was at times atrocious. He also managed to deliberately put himself in no man's land (as another supporter described it) many times, far enough away from his man that he couldn't tackle or block the ball, but near enough so that it looked as if he was trying to do something. He was also completely knackered by 60 minutes, which meant he had even less pace than before that!
As others have said, if you compound all that with Hall's less than enthusiastic tracking back then surely that was another reason to play Henry in front of Tiendalli (if he really HAD to play) on the right and put Hall in front of the defensively-better Richardinho on the left?
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Post by diagocostapacket on Nov 12, 2017 12:39:18 GMT
His record to date for OUFC:- MK Dons away - 20 minutes then injured Fleetwood - Lost 0-2 Port Vales - Lost 0-2 MK Dons - Lost 3-4 Northampton - Lost 1-2 What does that prove Notts.. ??
Absolutely nothing.. could just as easily apply to 10 other players.
Eastwood played in all those games so is he crap too ?
There are "lies, damn lies, and statistics"..shouldn't read too much into them to be honest.
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Post by worleox42 on Nov 12, 2017 13:48:28 GMT
In his defence he was good at Fleetwood any anyone who was actually at that game I'm sure would agree with me. He put in some excellent tackles and was defensively sound. He's not by any means match fit or up to speed with the div 1 game but I think that will come. He's certainly good enough for an average Div 1 side like ours. I think Shosho hit the nail on the head, we could have Bacary Sagna at RB and he would be ineffective until we get the Midfield sorted out. If we are going to play the defensive game we at least should have some defensive midfielders. All to often this season the defence has been beleaguered because the ball once cleared or moved out of defence has come straight back. Our best right side combination by far has been Henry, Ribs and Nelson but Nelson looks like he's going to be side lined for a while and Ribeiro is obviously not sound and has a chronic problem, probably his knee. I would be surprised if his career isn't cut short come May because no team in this league can afford to pay a player for just half a dozen good games a season. I think we need to get Carroll into the side immediately in the midfield on the right just in front of Tiendalli or Ribs if he's sound. Preferably Ribs, because when fit he actually is quite quick and gets forward well. I've lost count of the number of times when he has played and made an overlap he either hasn't received the pass or no-one from midfield could be arsed to drop back and cover making him look like a complete dick. I don't think ( and never have ) the problem we have lies with our players, moreover its with Clothead ... lets be honest with ourselves he is completely out of his depth and doesn't have a clue, he's tactically blinkered to one style of play and one style only. We could and should have easily won at least 3 of the last 5 games had we started the match in the same attacking mode that we finished, especially at home where we generally seem to have absolutely no home advantage whatsoever. I had a Japanese business man staying with me this week and took him to the game yesterday. He thought Northampton were the home team and in his words "Oxflord were Clap" Sorry I was at Fleetwood one bit of skill in the first half and that was that, 2nd half he was giving the ball away more times than he was giving it a team mate. I was Fleetwood, he was awful, always turning inside and lacked any sort of idea what he was doing.. you were clearly not watching the game I was.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 12, 2017 13:56:16 GMT
Sorry I was at Fleetwood one bit of skill in the first half and that was that, 2nd half he was giving the ball away more times than he was giving it a team mate. I was Fleetwood, he was awful, always turning inside and lacked any sort of idea what he was doing.. you were clearly not watching the game I was. I think you replied to the wrong poster.
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Post by worleox42 on Nov 12, 2017 14:06:46 GMT
I was Fleetwood, he was awful, always turning inside and lacked any sort of idea what he was doing.. you were clearly not watching the game I was. I think you replied to the wrong poster. Whoops sorry Bazzer
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 12, 2017 14:29:05 GMT
I think you replied to the wrong poster. Whoops sorry Bazzer No problem mate I think diagocostapacket must have watched someone else.
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