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Post by berliner on Oct 28, 2017 15:04:00 GMT
Since joining Sheffield United:
Played 60 Won 40 Drew 10 Lost 10
Some record that, whatever you think of the man.
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Post by concretebob on Oct 28, 2017 16:20:32 GMT
Great manager. Terrible person.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 28, 2017 16:32:08 GMT
When they won at the kassam last year and he went over to their fans kissing the badge, that's the exact moment any respect I had for him went. Only one reason he did that and it wasn't for the away fans, was to get a reaction from the home fans in my opinion. Can't stand him now which is sad considering what he did for us. Yes but do you blame him after the *hit he had here with a minority of fans and also don’t forget the last few years Lenaghan wasn’t backing him. As the man said, he doesn’t care about our history. That now includes himself. So good luck to him. He didn’t really do it here, were scraped into the conference playoffs, and never kicked on in the league. I really wouldn’t fancy him coming back to see that style of football again. Everyone’s moved on
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Post by Hayfield Yellow on Oct 28, 2017 20:32:55 GMT
As the man said, he doesn’t care about our history. Possibly the most misunderstood comment any Oxford manager has ever made. His point was simply that history doesn't win you games, and he was quite right. It's been leapt on by Wilder's critics ever since but it was a throwaway comment and completely innocuous.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 28, 2017 21:17:28 GMT
As the man said, he doesn’t care about our history. Possibly the most misunderstood comment any Oxford manager has ever made. His point was simply that history doesn't win you games, and he was quite right. It's been leapt on by Wilder's critics ever since but it was a throwaway comment and completely innocuous. I didn’t misunderstand it. I didn’t miss understand when he offered a fan out side who questioned his tactics. I didn’t miss understand his attitude that he was bigger than the club. I fully understand he got us out the conference. And fair play what ever he achieves after he left us. Won’t change my opinion that he’s a chippy t*at, that largely played very dull football for us apart from an amazing ability to raise the team to another level for the big matches
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Post by uptheus on Oct 29, 2017 11:52:15 GMT
Couldn't give a shit about that arrogant t*at.
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Post by oxfordboy on Oct 29, 2017 13:07:38 GMT
So many bitter fans on here, it's been 4 or 5 years now, jesus, let it go
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Post by Colin B on Oct 29, 2017 14:57:44 GMT
So many bitter fans on here, it's been 4 or 5 years now, jesus, let it go People are responding to a current BBC article about him, and specifically the comment that he's still popular here, so it's not a case of "bitter people not letting it go." FWIW I think the really bitter one is the current manager of Sheffield United.
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Post by Barts on Oct 29, 2017 15:29:08 GMT
So many bitter fans on here, it's been 4 or 5 years now, jesus, let it go People are responding to a current BBC article about him, and specifically the comment that he's still popular here, so it's not a case of "bitter people not letting it go." FWIW I think the really bitter one is the current manager of Sheffield United. As much as I agree with your feelings and sentiments, I doubt he loses much sleep over us. To be fair, when he covered our match at MK he was pretty fair and called it right. I expected him to be totally biased towards them.
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Post by nottsyellow on Oct 29, 2017 15:36:14 GMT
In his latter days at OUFC and ever since leaving I have never heard him say anything favourable about OUFC and he has had plenty of opportunities to compliment OUFC as a club. Whilst yes, we are grateful to him for getting us out of the conference, the respect has never been reciprocated in so far as he seems to have totally forgotten the opportunity OUFC gave him to (re)launch his managerial career. When we appointed him, he was No2 at Bury. If we had not given him the chance then when Knill was sacked at Bury, CW would have gone as well and possibly left on the scrapheap. Funny old game football. As I say CW was lucky we gave him the opportunity.
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Post by gilgy on Oct 29, 2017 18:33:24 GMT
Lets also not forget that when he left us we were in a pretty good league position... had he stayed, we'd have gone up I reckon. Had Lewis stayed on as caretaker until the end of the season, we'd have probably got playoffs still, with shaky form. It's Waddock that ruined it... Wilder put up with a lot of shit from fans, especially towards the end. Sure he has no genuine bad feelings towards the club / a lot of the supporters. But he's a mercenary - he'll go where he's paid, and then leave when what he p perceives to be a better job comes up. He's landed on his feet at Northampton where they had money to throw at a one-off promotion charge, and the same again at Sheffield - only this time it looks as though he might be able to take them into the Premier League... long way to go mind. Best of luck to him... just think in a few years Jake Wright might be playing for England
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Post by Colin B on Oct 29, 2017 19:31:28 GMT
Disagree strongly with the above.
We would not have gone up had Wilder stayed, the rot had already set in behind the scenes and we would have fallen away, and he knew it. Also, ask yourself why he "had to put up with shit" from fans.
The bloke is a reasonable manager, no Alex Ferguson that's for sure, but he is an obnoxious individual and disrespectful of the opportunity we gave him. Hope he falls on his arse soon.
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Post by gingerox on Oct 29, 2017 19:53:37 GMT
Seeing about Wright reminded me: his contract's up in the summer and if Shef Utd were to get promoted perhaps they'd be looking to upgrade? We can dream right?
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 29, 2017 19:58:00 GMT
Seeing about Wright reminded me: his contract's up in the summer and if Shef Utd were to get promoted perhaps they'd be looking to upgrade? We can dream right? Chippy would probably replace him with Nelson 😉
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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 29, 2017 21:43:14 GMT
Rod Liddle was a little sarcastic about Chippy in the paper today. Well regarded but record is nothing more than decent
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 29, 2017 21:46:43 GMT
Lets also not forget that when he left us we were in a pretty good league position... had he stayed, we'd have gone up I reckon. Nonsense. Wheels were off, even he could see it, which is why he ran away.
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Post by Common Villager on Oct 30, 2017 12:58:23 GMT
I must admit to being amazed at what he’s achieved since leaving. Given his time with us, I never would have seen his recent success coming.
Even so, I’m still so glad that he left the club. His miserableness, arrogance, and overall unlikeable nature pervaded the club. He failed year after year to get us into the play-offs, and our end of season capitulations became almost laughable. He blew large wages on old-timers looking for one last pay-out. Also, despite Lenagan’s show of faith in him by extending his contract before the 13/14 season, he spent most of his time looking for jobs elsewhere (can anyone remember the Portsmouth interview?). He departed the club without any decency whatsoever (nothing less than I would expect from him to be fair), and he showed no appreciation for support he received from large sections of the fan base.
I’m not sure how he’s managed to turn it around so drastically. Maybe having Knill as his assistant is a big factor? Maybe he’s adapted his management style a little?
Regardless, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club ever again.
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Post by unification on Oct 30, 2017 14:18:13 GMT
Lets also not forget that when he left us we were in a pretty good league position... had he stayed, we'd have gone up I reckon. Had Lewis stayed on as caretaker until the end of the season, we'd have probably got playoffs still, with shaky form. It's Waddock that ruined it... Wilder put up with a lot of shit from fans, especially towards the end. Sure he has no genuine bad feelings towards the club / a lot of the supporters. But he's a mercenary - he'll go where he's paid, and then leave when what he p perceives to be a better job comes up. He's landed on his feet at Northampton where they had money to throw at a one-off promotion charge, and the same again at Sheffield - only this time it looks as though he might be able to take them into the Premier League... long way to go mind. Best of luck to him... just think in a few years Jake Wright might be playing for England Can’t really agree with elements of that, chap. Had he stayed, who knows? I’d bet against promotion but we were in with a shout. 6th with a seven point cushion back to the chasing club just outside the playoff places. The table after CW’s sulky final game is below. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25790134 It wasn’t a strong league that year, so I’d have bet we would’ve finished in the playoffs. CW gave himself the gamble; stick with the U’s and get us promoted = a new contract, lose in the playoffs and be out of a job or fast track it over to Northampton and gamble again in keeping them up. They were bottom and six points (plus a terrible goal difference) away from safety. I don’t buy that he took the ‘easy’ way out but he did take the method that would be more likely to garner a better, longer contract. Wouldn’t we all? I don’t think CW ‘hates’ the club, but I do feel that his frustration with IL did boil over with his sudden departure. Had he had a kind word to say since his departure or a bit of fan acknowledgement I don’t think the dissenting voices on here would be all that loud. However, it does appear to be the case that he hasn’t had a lot to say about Oxford since then. Also, Waddock didn’t mess anything up. Confidence was shot with IL’s austerity running of the club. He would’ve had ML take charge for the rest of the season as the cheap option until that went to pieces away at Chesterfield. Fans demanded a new manager and Waddock was parachuted in too late to reverse the slide. He may sit as our ‘worst’ manager in terms of wins v defeats, but few hold him accountable.
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Post by gofish2 on Oct 30, 2017 19:52:06 GMT
Initially I liked CW because his record was one of sticking with it against the odds and was considered to be a manager who was loyal and determined. I remember when his praises were being sung by many, and in an interview he said something like 'I don't take it too seriously because one day you're a god, the next you're the devil' (or words to that effect) I also thought that his first season in charge was really good because had we not had the points reduction we would have made the playoffs. There is no doubt though that his PR skills left a lot to be desired and his style of football was dull, albeit fairly effective. His results since leaving have been impressive and although he will never make the premiership he has gone from conference to championship in a steady but quite rapid manner. He is an attractive proposition for many clubs I'm sure, but unfortunately he did jump ship and said some pretty unhelpful things when here. Inevitably he wont be remembered fondly for that. I think he knew that the writing was on the wall when it came to his contract being negotiated and whilst he publicly thanked IL fo showing faith in him and offering him another year, I think he was looking for an out as soon as possible. I have no feelings either way, I'm grateful for what he did and regret the way he left but, I don't know him as a person or the whole picture. I'm not in a position to judge but do appreciate that some people feel a good deal of resentment.
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Post by maidenheadox on Nov 3, 2017 14:59:33 GMT
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