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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 18, 2017 16:20:52 GMT
We also missed some chances... Ricardinho had a good shot saved in the first half. Both keepers worked hard to keep their teams in the game, but style wise they looked better at it. Certainly, we looked like we were at the edges of squad depth last night. Small point, but I'm 99% sure that shot was blocked by the defender. Couldn't tell 100% from where I was. Looked a bit of both. Must have left a mark cause it was certainly hit well!
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Post by bazzer9461 on Oct 18, 2017 16:58:05 GMT
What Karl Robinson has said after the game. “Oxford have an outstanding team at this level. I thought we were the better team, they might say different. We had six or seven really good chances - chances we normally take. “We looked as fluid and as classy as I’ve seen us this season against one of the best teams - away from home. I thought it was James Corden Definitely Karl Robinson
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 18, 2017 17:22:48 GMT
Small point, but I'm 99% sure that shot was blocked by the defender. Couldn't tell 100% from where I was. Looked a bit of both. Must have left a mark cause it was certainly hit well! Pretty sure the first half shot was blocked by a defender who materialised out of nowhere on 6 yard box.
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Post by barbadosyellow on Oct 18, 2017 17:37:51 GMT
Couldn't tell 100% from where I was. Looked a bit of both. Must have left a mark cause it was certainly hit well! Pretty sure the first half shot was blocked by a defender who materialised out of nowhere on 6 yard box. I was right behind that shot in the SSL and couldn't believe how hard he hit it. I also thought it hit both the keeper and a defender at the same time although it happened too fast to be sure.
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Post by MJB on Oct 18, 2017 18:51:06 GMT
Pretty sure the first half shot was blocked by a defender who materialised out of nowhere on 6 yard box. I was right behind that shot in the SSL and couldn't believe how hard he hit it. I also thought it hit both the keeper and a defender at the same time although it happened too fast to be sure. Just the outfield player - our ex-loanee JFC I believe.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Oct 18, 2017 19:05:18 GMT
We've got to keep this run going because we are in a vulnerable position at the moment, 4 teams below us have 1 game in hand (Blackburn have 2) and they are all within a point of us. No reason why we won't be challenging at end of season for Play offs, this team has the ability to grind out a result.
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 18, 2017 19:12:34 GMT
We've got to keep this run going because we are in a vulnerable position at the moment, 4 teams below us have 1 game in hand (Blackburn have 2) and they are all within a point of us. No reason why we won't be challenging at end of season for Play offs, this team has the ability to grind out a result. I wouldn't describe our position as vulnerable!! There is a hell of a long way to go yet and as long as we focus on our own results everything should come together nicely in May.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 18, 2017 19:15:29 GMT
We've got to keep this run going because we are in a vulnerable position at the moment, 4 teams below us have 1 game in hand (Blackburn have 2) and they are all within a point of us. No reason why we won't be challenging at end of season for Play offs, this team has the ability to grind out a result. I wouldn't describe our position as vulnerable!! There is a hell of a long way to go yet and as long as we focus on our own results everything should come together nicely in May. Christ 4 games ago we were at risk of relegation, now we’re worried about being vulnerable to dropping out of the playoffs. Imagine what it will be like after xmas 😂
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Post by RCYellowRC on Oct 18, 2017 19:27:30 GMT
We've got to keep this run going because we are in a vulnerable position at the moment, 4 teams below us have 1 game in hand (Blackburn have 2) and they are all within a point of us. No reason why we won't be challenging at end of season for Play offs, this team has the ability to grind out a result. I wouldn't describe our position as vulnerable!! There is a hell of a long way to go yet and as long as we focus on our own results everything should come together nicely in May. Vulnerable probably isn't the right word to describe it i think i was being a bit over exaggerate there, but this period we are coming into November-December, is probably the toughest period of the season. Pitches start to wear away because of the weather and this is typically when injuries start to become an issue right before January (unless your Oxford United). Agree there is a long way to go all we need to do is not this position slip from us and stay with the pack which we should. Think i was being a bit naive saying about games in hand because with the cup runs we have had over past few years we could be in that position later in the season when it could mean a lot more.
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Post by rickyotto on Oct 18, 2017 19:37:20 GMT
We've got to keep this run going because we are in a vulnerable position at the moment, 4 teams below us have 1 game in hand (Blackburn have 2) and they are all within a point of us. No reason why we won't be challenging at end of season for Play offs, this team has the ability to grind out a result. I wouldn't describe our position as vulnerable!! There is a hell of a long way to go yet and as long as we focus on our own results everything should come together nicely in May. You're being an ostrich. We're absolutely f&$ked!
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Post by uptheus on Oct 18, 2017 19:40:16 GMT
did anybody else think Simon Eastwood wasn't himself? His distribution wasn't up to his usual standards. Still a decent enough game but looked a little edgy to me so hope all ok Just think his kicking has not been to the same standard as last season. His poor kick led to their first goal. He seems to be putting it a lot higher in the air which gives advantage to the defender, more so when they're not even challenged, and especially against big central defenders like last night.
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Post by rickyotto on Oct 18, 2017 20:03:09 GMT
did anybody else think Simon Eastwood wasn't himself? His distribution wasn't up to his usual standards. Still a decent enough game but looked a little edgy to me so hope all ok Just think his kicking has not been to the same standard as last season. His poor kick led to their first goal. He seems to be putting it a lot higher in the air which gives advantage to the defender, more so when they're not even challenged, and especially against big central defenders like last night. That kick was excellent. Went deep into their half down the right flank.
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Post by uptheus on Oct 18, 2017 20:11:48 GMT
Just think his kicking has not been to the same standard as last season. His poor kick led to their first goal. He seems to be putting it a lot higher in the air which gives advantage to the defender, more so when they're not even challenged, and especially against big central defenders like last night. That kick was excellent. Went deep into their half down the right flank. It didn't go anywhere near our players and was in the air too long giving advantage to their defenders, hence why their defender was able to head it 30+ yards and put us under pressure. The main fault for their goal lay with Nelson when he tried try to lift the ball over their approaching player when he needed to just put his foot through it. But my main comment however, was, Eastwood's kicking hasn't been at the same high level he had last season.
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Post by eraser on Oct 18, 2017 22:51:40 GMT
Absolutely room for improvement. What worried me was they didn't learn and made the same mistakes on subsequent free kicks when defending. For example the 1st clear chance they created from a freekick, the Charlton player was free at the back post but fortunately he missed. They got a free kick in a similar position and did the same routine yet we did exactly the same with the same result except 2 of their players got free, fortunately the kick was overhit. On both free kicks, we had 4 vs 4 but Nelson took up a strange position and nobody seemed to be taking control. I agree on the attacking set pieces, we really should be doing better. Why do we use the short corner as the norm when surely it is a greater surprise when used more sparingly? Good point on Lego, hadn't really thought of it like that. Re the marking at free kicks, I also noticed certainly on at least one occasion in the first half, Charlton's two centre backs getting a run at the back post with Nelson & Mousiniho in the centre. I've never seen an Oxford defence zonal mark before but I think that's what was going on. We looked vulnerable at those particular free kicks. The Zonal / Man marking debate rumbles on through all levels of football. Personally at League 1 level I'd never advocate Zonal marking at set pieces. As has been observed - if you get 2 attackers entering your Zone you're in trouble. In open play - no problem - as when you regain possession your team mates are in their correct and expected positions.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 18, 2017 23:21:30 GMT
I don't think it was zonal marking as such Tuesday, moreover Charltons game is heavily biased towards attacking midfielders, who often broke quickly and doubled up out wide in the first 30. This generally left Ric and Ribs caught between two stools and the ball was then often cut back for the supporting player to whip in an early cross. It looked like both fullbacks, Nelson and Mouse were a bit static during this period but they weren't really its just that Charltons tactics were unfamiliar and it very nearly paid off for them.
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Post by shosho on Oct 19, 2017 11:46:27 GMT
Doesnt matter if we are zonal or man marking, Rotherham are clearly effective in the air: Of these attempts, the goals: Moore has scored 3 of these headers. Would be interesting to see if these are from set pieces, or any particular wide delivery EDIT: just watched the video - 3 corners - 4 crosses in open play...all in swingers.
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Post by shosho on Oct 20, 2017 11:31:10 GMT
We seem to do a zonal/man marking hybrid. I remember at the start of the season man marking with Williamson free on the penalty spot free to mop up and control the middle of the box. I didn’t pay huge attention to it last night however. Will look again this Saturday! There is scope for huge improvement from all of our set pieces. Considering Pep loves to analyse the game, I’m surprised we haven’t used corners etc to create an edge. With the quality of delivery (Henry/Payne) and Mousinho/Nelson we should be better than we are. As an aside, I assume to protect Thomas a little we now have Ledson doing his running? Ledson often breaks out of the midfield to press the opposition back 4, with the rest of the team backing him up. Absolutely room for improvement. What worried me was they didn't learn and made the same mistakes on subsequent free kicks when defending. For example the 1st clear chance they created from a freekick, the Charlton player was free at the back post but fortunately he missed. They got a free kick in a similar position and did the same routine yet we did exactly the same with the same result except 2 of their players got free, fortunately the kick was overhit. On both free kicks, we had 4 vs 4 but Nelson took up a strange position and nobody seemed to be taking control. I agree on the attacking set pieces, we really should be doing better. Why do we use the short corner as the norm when surely it is a greater surprise when used more sparingly? Good point on Lego, hadn't really thought of it like that. 😆 www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/oxfordunited/usnews/15607715.Ryan_Ledson_is_no_headless_chicken__says_Oxford_United_teammate_Rob_Hall/
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