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Post by oxvox on Jul 26, 2017 13:48:26 GMT
Hi all
Just to let you know to look out for an email this evening with the responses from Darryl Eales on all the questions raised recently by oxvox members.
Lots of interesting and insightful stuff, including details on budgets and the JV with OCFC.
Oxvox very much appreciate the time taken by Darryl over the responses and we hope members enjoy reading them!
There will also be info on some upcoming events and dates for your diaries!
Not a member? Join today by going to the oxvox website and following the simple online instructions.
Cheers
Jem
COYY's
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Post by fistfullofdollars on Jul 26, 2017 14:03:19 GMT
Just read the email and thought it was a comprehensive set of responses. The detail around budgets was particularly interesting i thought The other thing that caught my eye was the question around division within the fanbase. The response and question both referenced that Oxvox would look to be part of the solution in smoothing some of these divisions and i was interested in whether Oxvox has discussed this and what plans, if any, were being discussed?
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Post by isibuko on Jul 26, 2017 14:17:30 GMT
I think these answers are really important, they help dispel a lot of myths that have built up a head of steam with all sorts of hearsay around the club.
While DE isn't perfect I think we really need to get behind him, Pep and the team and get past all this bullsh*t that has been floating around recently.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 14:18:21 GMT
Very good well thought out answers. Can't fault him for all that at all. Especially positive that he is fully behind the oxvox bid to sort the stadium. Despite some suggesting they were doing it against his wishes. Hopefully this can now start again.
All anyone (well me personally) has ever asked for us some answers. Darryl has now given them. And on the whole very encouraging. Especially that we're going to break even/ make a profit for the first time in years. So all we need now is a top striker and a left back, and we can all jump aboard the new fleet positive busses .
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Post by isibuko on Jul 26, 2017 14:20:21 GMT
All anyone (well me personally) has ever asked for us some answers. Darryl has now given them. Absolutely. It's been a long time since we've had a chairman this open, and I thought his answers were pretty great on the whole.
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Post by fistfullofdollars on Jul 26, 2017 14:28:42 GMT
Very good well thought out answers. Can't fault him for all that at all. Especially positive that he is fully behind the oxvox bid to sort the stadium. Despite some suggesting they were doing it against his wishes. Hopefully this can now start again. All anyone (well me personally) has ever asked for us some answers. Darryl has now given them. And on the whole very encouraging. Especially that we're going to break even/ make a profit for the first time in years. So all we need now is a top striker and a left back, and we can all jump aboard the new fleet positive busses . This probably isnt aimed at you, but i will ask as you might have an answer One of the questions people seem to ask is about disharmony amongst the general staff and people leaving and not being replaced. I think you may have alluded to it yourself, apologies if not. Anyway the question is are you content with the answer, as DE seems surprised by the question and felt it wasnt just, judging by his response? I ask as i am as far from being ITK as it gets and so am curious as to how this perception has built up and if it really is a myth or DE is in denial?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 14:51:09 GMT
I do know people have left and there has been issues, but from reading that maybe these are more personal issues than widespread, I suppose every work place will have people that don't get on. What I would say is I think the shortages of staff seem to be explain by directors taking on more of the roles that fill time paid staff normally would. And some other roles have been put over to fans to do voluntarily. Cost cutting or streamlining ? It's a tight line I suppose. One question that wasn't really answered is the debt level. With the club carrying more debt than ever in our history it would be nice to see how that sits going forward. But overall more positives than negatives, and what looks like a willingness to work with oxvox to bring everyone together, rather than the more difficult position a few months ago where Darryl wasn't even talking. Like I've said before everyone can make mistakes and wrong decisions, it's about how u put them right and move on from them that's important. There's also been a fair bit of oxvox bashing recently for interferingwith the stadium and club business, this hopefully clears up that darryl was always on board with the idea, and is fully supportive. And just what a vital role oxvox do play as the link between fans and club
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 26, 2017 14:53:41 GMT
Very good well thought out answers. Can't fault him for all that at all. Especially positive that he is fully behind the oxvox bid to sort the stadium. Despite some suggesting they were doing it against his wishes. Hopefully this can now start again. All anyone (well me personally) has ever asked for us some answers. Darryl has now given them. And on the whole very encouraging. Especially that we're going to break even/ make a profit for the first time in years. So all we need now is a top striker and a left back, and we can all jump aboard the new fleet positive busses . This probably isnt aimed at you, but i will ask as you might have an answer One of the questions people seem to ask is about disharmony amongst the general staff and people leaving and not being replaced. I think you may have alluded to it yourself, apologies if not. Anyway the question is are you content with the answer, as DE seems surprised by the question and felt it wasnt just, judging by his response? I ask as i am as far from being ITK as it gets and so am curious as to how this perception has built up and if it really is a myth or DE is in denial? Some good reassuring answers from our Chairman in particular regarding playing budgets. However he failed to mention one of the 'senior' leavers - Greig Box Turnbull (spelling?) and his replacement ? Fairly important position I would've thought.
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Post by Long John Silver on Jul 26, 2017 15:09:16 GMT
On the 'takeover', he said that Sartori never even made a formal offer for the club. That seems strange considering it was thought it was an almost done deal at the time.
I met Juan only twice At the time that we called a halt to discussions, there was no agreed deal and no formal offer on the table The leakage of information and the lack of progress in discussions led me to believe that a deal would not be consummated and, hence, in the best interests of OUFC, I felt it best to end our very amicable discussions as the speculation was unhelpful and distracting at an important time for the club
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Post by isibuko on Jul 26, 2017 15:53:35 GMT
Are these going answers to be made public to all? If not, why wouldn't they be?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 15:54:55 GMT
Are these going answers to be made public to all? If not, why wouldn't they be? They normally are, a few days after members get them. But why not join anyway
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Post by Mark on Jul 26, 2017 15:57:38 GMT
On the 'takeover', he said that Sartori never even made a formal offer for the club. That seems strange considering it was thought it was an almost done deal at the time. I met Juan only twice At the time that we called a halt to discussions, there was no agreed deal and no formal offer on the table The leakage of information and the lack of progress in discussions led me to believe that a deal would not be consummated and, hence, in the best interests of OUFC, I felt it best to end our very amicable discussions as the speculation was unhelpful and distracting at an important time for the clubI've been wondering whether all the transfer fees coming in: Sercombe, Lundstram, compensation for Appleton, wage saving on Maguire... mean that Eales feels more comfortable owning the club knowing that this season is already 'paid for' I think he said from the deferred payments on COD and Roofe. So he is under no immediate cash pressure to sell up, so can afford to wait and see if a better offer comes along.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 16:06:12 GMT
Also seems crazy sartori would go as far as due diligence, with no offer on the table? How would he know if they were even close in terms of what Darryl wanted and what he was willing to pay. I thought due diligence was the last part of the process or have I miss understood that ?
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Post by isibuko on Jul 26, 2017 16:24:26 GMT
Are these going answers to be made public to all? If not, why wouldn't they be? They normally are, a few days after members get them. But why not join anyway I'm fully paid up! Just feel that these need to be public as soon as possible to address the stupid speculation swirling around DE.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 16:29:06 GMT
I'm not sure it's stupid speculation! They were questions that needed answering that until this point he hadn't. Don't see there's an issue with that. Darryl even says in it he makes decisions that where right or wrong are always within the best interests of the club. When mistakes are made people will ask questions, when no information is given, people will make their own assumptions. And that works Both ways, like I said a lot of people have been slating oxvox for going behind his back and trying to force him out. This would suggest like some of the worries the other way that it was totally unfounded
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Post by manorlounger on Jul 26, 2017 16:46:00 GMT
They normally are, a few days after members get them. But why not join anyway I'm fully paid up! Just feel that these need to be public as soon as possible to address the stupid speculation swirling around DE. I belong to Oxvox and I don't see any reason why the answers shouldn't be published, on the other hand I have seen them because I am a member. As to ending any "stupid" speculation, I am not convinced at all that Juan Sartori did not make a firm offer, a very firm offer and was carrying out due diligence at the time of DE pulling out. It doesn't make sense at all.
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 26, 2017 16:48:27 GMT
On the 'takeover', he said that Sartori never even made a formal offer for the club. That seems strange considering it was thought it was an almost done deal at the time. I met Juan only twice At the time that we called a halt to discussions, there was no agreed deal and no formal offer on the table The leakage of information and the lack of progress in discussions led me to believe that a deal would not be consummated and, hence, in the best interests of OUFC, I felt it best to end our very amicable discussions as the speculation was unhelpful and distracting at an important time for the clubThis what the Oxford Mail said at the time re Sartori. The 36-year-old had made a formal offer to seize control of the club, but has been forced to accept defeat.www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15335838.Juan_Sartori___I_wanted_to_take_Oxford_United_to_Premier_League_/No wonder fans get confused.
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Post by Bue Guado on Jul 26, 2017 16:49:00 GMT
No mention of a Left Back I see...
Jokes aside, a good read and reassuring.
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 26, 2017 17:57:17 GMT
Agreed - good response from Darryl.
What's happening with the Priory - anyone know?
Kassam looks to be in breach of the planning permission/agreements put in place for his Hampton by Hilton hotel.
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Post by holdsteady on Jul 26, 2017 18:11:05 GMT
Agreed - good response from Darryl. What's happening with the Priory - anyone know? Kassam looks to be in breach of the planning permission/agreements put in place for his Hampton by Hilton hotel. Going by previous examples of how Kassam has got away with breaching planning regulations then I doubt he is worried, he just gets left to get on with it normally.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 26, 2017 18:36:05 GMT
On the 'takeover', he said that Sartori never even made a formal offer for the club. Β That seems strange considering it was thought it was an almost done deal at the time. I met Juan only twice At the time that we called a halt to discussions, there was no agreed deal and no formal offer on the table The leakage of information and the lack of progress in discussions led me to believe that a deal would not be consummated and, hence, in the best interests of OUFC, I felt it best to end our very amicable discussions as the speculation was unhelpful and distracting at an important time for the clubThis what the Oxford Mail said at the time re Sartori. The 36-year-old had made a formal offer to seize control of the club, but has been forced to accept defeat.www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15335838.Juan_Sartori___I_wanted_to_take_Oxford_United_to_Premier_League_/No wonder fans get confused. True fans don't get confused, true fans get behind.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 26, 2017 20:13:58 GMT
Interesting to hear that it was all the information being leaked that made him pull the plug. Can't blame him considering if you were trying to sale your business and suddenly details about aspects of the deal suddenly get leaked which are clearly from someone itk talking when they shouldn't be.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 20:21:05 GMT
Well he's says that and there being no offer. Surely there had to be an offer to get to due diligence ? Maybe knowing how much of the detail was coming out he pulled the plug before Anything brought up in due diligence was revealed π. Anyway who cares now, everyone needs to come together and celebrate these big signings that will be joining shortly
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 26, 2017 20:24:41 GMT
Well he's says that and there being no offer. Surely there had to be an offer to get to due diligence ? Maybe knowing how much of the detail was coming out he pulled the plug before Anything brought up in due diligence was revealed π. Anyway who cares now, everyone needs to come together and celebrate these big signings that will be joining shortly Satori said due dilligence was being done, the same way the oxford mail said there was a firm bid. I look forward to signing a couple more players but it will be down more to wether Pep feels we need/wants any more players or to see how we go in the first half of the season to then maybe bolster the squad and improve it in the new year.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 20:27:33 GMT
Well he's says that and there being no offer. Surely there had to be an offer to get to due diligence ? Maybe knowing how much of the detail was coming out he pulled the plug before Anything brought up in due diligence was revealed π. Anyway who cares now, everyone needs to come together and celebrate these big signings that will be joining shortly Satori said due dilligence was being done, the same way the oxford mail said there was a firm bid. I look forward to signing a couple more players but it will be down more to wether Pep feels we need/wants any more players or to see how we go in the first half of the season to then maybe bolster the squad and improve it in the new year. Actually Darryl himself said there had been a bid. Just that it wasn't yet credible. Which is why u then go to due diligence before sorting out the lose ends. No ones spends 10's of thousands of pounds doing that without knowing if they will have a bid accepted. audioboom.com/posts/5942031-eales-says-ox-utd-takeover-isn-t-close
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Post by Trevor L on Jul 26, 2017 20:54:59 GMT
We're hearing from a small number of members who haven't received the email. We'll get it out to you tomorrow at the latest.
Anyone else who is a member and can't find the email, please check your spam folders, and if not found, drop an email to me at updates@oxvox.org.uk
The notes will go on to the OxVox website in the next day or so.
Trev
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Post by makv on Jul 27, 2017 3:20:32 GMT
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 27, 2017 7:25:17 GMT
True fans don't get confused, true fans get behind. Am I allowed to get behind the team, be confused, and ask awkward questions occasionally? π
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jul 27, 2017 7:25:45 GMT
Very interesting. It does rather expose how some of the online stuff is niche for most of the fans.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 27, 2017 7:38:54 GMT
We're hearing from a small number of members who haven't received the email. We'll get it out to you tomorrow at the latest. Anyone else who is a member and can't find the email, please check your spam folders, and if not found, drop an email to me at updates@oxvox.org.uk The notes will go on to the OxVox website in the next day or so. Trev My mail is fixed, you clever man! Thanks.
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