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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 18, 2017 19:40:20 GMT
Didn't see many complaints when Ashton was employed by Ensco when realistically it was a club cost. Anyway I take Myles's point that a potential buyer could end up with a long term commitment to paying Ensco , but surely that would be covered by due diligence? So an onerous lease would presumably make the club less saleable? When most of us think the Eales project is to sell the club on at a decent profit. Doesn't it mean he gets more of a profit should he sell? Either in an on going rent or buying out of lease
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Post by mariokempes on Jul 18, 2017 19:44:13 GMT
Isn't Joe Nicholls if he's still involved actually paid by Alycidon.
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Post by manorlounger on Jul 18, 2017 19:51:39 GMT
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Post by Mark on Jul 18, 2017 20:05:24 GMT
Didn't see many complaints when Ashton was employed by Ensco when realistically it was a club cost. Anyway I take Myles's point that a potential buyer could end up with a long term commitment to paying Ensco , but surely that would be covered by due diligence? So an onerous lease would presumably make the club less saleable? When most of us think the Eales project is to sell the club on at a decent profit. Doesn't it mean he gets more of a profit should he sell? Either in an on going rent or buying out of lease I'd think if you were buying the club for say £5million but then found out that the training ground was for instance £500k per year when you think it's worth £100k, you'd renegotiate the initial £5million.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 18, 2017 20:13:33 GMT
Doesn't it mean he gets more of a profit should he sell? Either in an on going rent or buying out of lease I'd think if you were buying the club for say £5million but then found out that the training ground was for instance £500k per year when you think it's worth £100k, you'd renegotiate the initial £5million. Maybe that's exactly what Juan did. The club is attractive, more so than the likes of Northampton But with the debt and stadium situation and everything else it's going to take promotion to get the sort of figure that would clear all that and leave Darryl with a profit.
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Post by nick68 on Jul 18, 2017 20:40:17 GMT
Can you lot make your mind up once and for all, should I get my pitch fork back out or not....like the bloody Hokey Cokey here.
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Post by scotchegg on Jul 18, 2017 20:40:19 GMT
I'd think if you were buying the club for say £5million but then found out that the training ground was for instance £500k per year when you think it's worth £100k, you'd renegotiate the initial £5million. Maybe that's exactly what Juan did. The club is attractive, more so than the likes of Northampton But with the debt and stadium situation and everything else it's going to take promotion to get the sort of figure that would clear all that and leave Darryl with a profit. Wasn't we being told that JS had millions to invest in Oxford, looking at the stadium, real estate and taking us to the Premier league? Seems a bit strange that he'd cancel that off the back of the fairly pitiful cost to us a training ground?
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Post by manorlounger on Jul 18, 2017 20:53:05 GMT
Maybe that's exactly what Juan did. The club is attractive, more so than the likes of Northampton But with the debt and stadium situation and everything else it's going to take promotion to get the sort of figure that would clear all that and leave Darryl with a profit. Wasn't we being told that JS had millions to invest in Oxford, looking at the stadium, real estate and taking us to the Premier league? Seems a bit strange that he'd cancel that off the back of the fairly pitiful cost to us a training ground? JS didn't cancel, DE told him the deal was off. Got as far as due diligence and then pulled out of selling. Still don't understand that move.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 18, 2017 20:54:33 GMT
Maybe that's exactly what Juan did. The club is attractive, more so than the likes of Northampton But with the debt and stadium situation and everything else it's going to take promotion to get the sort of figure that would clear all that and leave Darryl with a profit. Wasn't we being told that JS had millions to invest in Oxford, looking at the stadium, real estate and taking us to the Premier league? Seems a bit strange that he'd cancel that off the back of the fairly pitiful cost to us a training ground? Depends what the costs are I suppose. When u add it all in with the writing off of debt and anything else that due diligence turned up was probably getting very expensive for a l1 side with very little assets.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 18, 2017 21:12:06 GMT
Ensco don't own Oxford City FC, they are involved in a joint partnership with Oxford City. Without Ensco a club the size of Oxford City would not of been able to have a 3g pitch put down and be able to rent that pitch out for the community to use. I get that you don't trust Eales and keep mentioning how he changes the goal posts in press releases. Well he has explained in today's article why we don't need to sell a player this summer due to the club getting near on £2 million in the bank from last years player sells. Things change in football very quickly so if something was said 3 months ago can now not be the case due to a change in circumstances. Going back to the Oxford City issue I would bet my last tenner that it is due to ownership issues and having a certain amount of interest in another club. I assume you will be going to the fans forum to ask Eales about the concerns you have regarding the different comments in the press? I think Myles has raised something worth talking about. However agree the word 'stinks' at the end of his post doesn't help his argument. Maybe him and Charlie need to go on a PR course.. DE may have said we don't 'need' to sell, lets revisit this thread in mid-August. My guess is that Lundstram, and Johnson won't be with us at the start of the season. If that happens then we'll have received 4 fees from players / manager trading. I'm very sure Lunny won't be with us come the start of the season and I'd be happy if we sold him at the figure the club are after but on Johnson, I actually don't see him getting sold this summer, maybe in the new year but not in this current window unless a stupid offer comes in. If Lunny goes for the money the club want for him the we will get close to 1 million in summer sales which is good business for the club.
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 19, 2017 7:24:37 GMT
Ensco don't own Oxford City FC, they are involved in a joint partnership with Oxford City. Without Ensco a club the size of Oxford City would not of been able to have a 3g pitch put down and be able to rent that pitch out for the community to use. I get that you don't trust Eales and keep mentioning how he changes the goal posts in press releases. Well he has explained in today's article why we don't need to sell a player this summer due to the club getting near on £2 million in the bank from last years player sells. Things change in football very quickly so if something was said 3 months ago can now not be the case due to a change in circumstances. Going back to the Oxford City issue I would bet my last tenner that it is due to ownership issues and having a certain amount of interest in another club. I assume you will be going to the fans forum to ask Eales about the concerns you have regarding the different comments in the press? I think Myles has raised something worth talking about. However agree the word 'stinks' at the end of his post doesn't help his argument. Maybe him and Charlie need to go on a PR course.. DE may have said we don't 'need' to sell, lets revisit this thread in mid-August. My guess is that Lundstram, and Johnson won't be with us at the start of the season. If that happens then we'll have received 4 fees from players / manager trading. What the hell have I got to do with it? I didn't say 'it stinks'. In fact, all I did was say that it all looks rather prosaic to me. DE decides to invest in court place, as OCFC are out of cash. In return for that investment, he wants a return. That is nothing to do with Oufc. The fact that the local media have not done their research and assumed that it is of benefit to Oufc has, I suspect, led various people up the garden path. You then go on, bizarrely, to link this single subject thread to the wholly unrelated topic of player transfers. Don't know about me needing to go on a pr course (I lecture on one - does that count?- but I can think of a few educational courses that might benefit you!
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Post by upthecowboys on Jul 19, 2017 17:29:51 GMT
I think Myles has raised something worth talking about. However agree the word 'stinks' at the end of his post doesn't help his argument. Maybe him and Charlie need to go on a PR course.. DE may have said we don't 'need' to sell, lets revisit this thread in mid-August. My guess is that Lundstram, and Johnson won't be with us at the start of the season. If that happens then we'll have received 4 fees from players / manager trading. What the hell have I got to do with it? I didn't say 'it stinks'. In fact, all I did was say that it all looks rather prosaic to me. DE decides to invest in court place, as OCFC are out of cash. In return for that investment, he wants a return. That is nothing to do with Oufc. The fact that the local media have not done their research and assumed that it is of benefit to Oufc has, I suspect, led various people up the garden path. You then go on, bizarrely, to link this single subject thread to the wholly unrelated topic of player transfers. Don't know about me needing to go on a pr course (I lecture on one - does that count?- but I can think of a few educational courses that might benefit you! Fair enough Charlie, you are correct and it was Myles who used the word stinks. Apologies. I linked you into this because on the whole I agree with most of your posts but imho some of the language you use / the tone of your posts alienates rubs a lot of people up the wrong way - hence the PR reference! As for me needing to do educational courses, as an Old Waynflete the money was obviously wasted on me 😃
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