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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 17:29:50 GMT
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 30, 2017 17:32:48 GMT
Maybe the MApp compensation and Sercs money has gone along way to covering it.
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Post by makv on Jun 30, 2017 17:33:51 GMT
Maybe we're not buying anyone either
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Post by Yellow River on Jun 30, 2017 17:35:24 GMT
Just means we'll have a squad of 18 instead of 22. Quality not quantity.
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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 17:35:47 GMT
Both reasonable points. I hope its Marked Ox's suggestion and not yours makv lol
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Post by mcf86 on Jun 30, 2017 17:39:53 GMT
Maybe the MApp compensation and Sercs money has gone along way to covering it. I doubt that, and if it does it would still represent short termism. Some interesting and valid points by op, more going against policy than strategy though. One gets the feeling from this that there's something DE's not telling us, yet.
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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 17:40:41 GMT
Come January with the odd injury and a few niggles and destined for the final of the micky mouse cup 18 players won't be much of a team haha. Must stop my negative thinking haha. Of course we need to recruit I don't think this is the reason for not selling star players.
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Post by Mark on Jun 30, 2017 17:53:19 GMT
The usual suspects will pop up saying he's cutting costs in other areas. Back to no overnight stays and players buying sandwiches from Sainsbury's for lunch.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 30, 2017 17:54:36 GMT
The usual suspects will pop up saying he's cutting costs in other areas. Back to no overnight stays and players buying sandwiches from Sainsbury's for lunch. You mean Hot dogs
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Post by mariokempes on Jun 30, 2017 18:03:23 GMT
The usual suspects will pop up saying he's cutting costs in other areas. Back to no overnight stays and players buying sandwiches from Sainsbury's for lunch. You mean Hot dogs We after Albert Kuqi
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 30, 2017 18:08:00 GMT
Maybe the MApp compensation and Sercs money has gone along way to covering it. I doubt that, and if it does it would still represent short termism. Some interesting and valid points by op, more going against policy than strategy though. One gets the feeling from this that there's something DE's not telling us, yet. I did say maybe. As the stated policy has been to sell a player for a profit then depending on how much MApp's compensation it is possible. As for short termism, how else is the club going to breakeven without either significantly reducing costs or somehow being able to raise additional income from the Stadium (which isn't looking likely at the mo)*? Also, identifying, signing and developing young talented players is hardly a short term policy considering the time put into those activities. And that applies to whomever owns the Club.
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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 19:38:12 GMT
I'm amazed this statement hasn't raised more eye brows. I found it highly unusual and not in-keeping with the status quo. But perhaps most have taken it to be gamesmanship by the chairman.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 30, 2017 19:41:18 GMT
Think we're all just used to contradictory mixed messages in his press releases. Who knows what it means.
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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 19:43:28 GMT
Think we're all just used to contradictory mixed messages in his press releases. Who knows what it means. Fair enough.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 30, 2017 19:49:51 GMT
I'm fairly upbeat today, if the pep appointment is confirmed then that's a very decent choice from Darryl and totally backing up what he's said he will do, no ones ever asked for any more than that. I heard a snippet of this on the radio this morning, it is interesting but again it's a big change of direction without any real explanation as to why or what it means. Still if it means we keep our best players and there is a budget to bring in more quality, then brilliant I doubt there will be a single unhappy fan. Then there's just the small issues to sort. Like stadium, training ground and key staff 😃
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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 19:53:37 GMT
I'm all for it oufcyellows! Just thought the change in thinking was worth pondering. I agree after initial panic next week might bring a more up beat narrative.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 30, 2017 19:58:54 GMT
I'm all for it oufcyellows! Just thought the change in thinking was worth pondering. I agree after initial panic next week might bring a more up beat narrative. I think this is half the problem, when he does announce something like this, which is obviously a great bit of news it's met with doubt as it's a complete change with no reason as to why. Now that might be down to the reporter writing it as much as Darryl. But if u release the same statement saying the new manager won't have to sell star players inline with our model, as the compo from mapp and fee from sercs coupled with much higher than expected cup revenue from last season means we can move forward this season without a sale being necessary
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Post by TheNewManor on Jun 30, 2017 20:06:51 GMT
I'm all for it oufcyellows! Just thought the change in thinking was worth pondering. I agree after initial panic next week might bring a more up beat narrative. I think this is half the problem that when he does announce something like this, which is obviously a great bit of news it's met with doubt as it's a complete change with no reason. Now that might be down to the reporter writing it as much as Darryl. But if u release the same statement saying the new manager won't have to sell star players online with our strategy, as the compo from mapp and fee from sercs coupled with much higher than expected cup revenue from last season means we can move forward this season without a sale being necessary Such a statement would indeed nullify the need for forum forecasting On reflection I think this is just Daryl appeasing fans, attracting managers and pushing up the asking price for players. I feel sure nothing has changed when it comes to the bottom line - Marv is for sale.
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Post by tatabanya on Jun 30, 2017 20:15:04 GMT
To me that statement reads:
'We have some really good players
"Nobody has bid for them yet"
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 30, 2017 20:21:44 GMT
Yes, Elmes is wearing his 'f*ck me ' shoes?
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Post by 1OUFC on Jun 30, 2017 20:40:28 GMT
Just means we'll have a squad of 18 instead of 22. Quality not quantity. 18 is plenty, 4 less hot dogs he'll have to shell out for on the minibus on the way home.
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Post by SteMerritt on Jun 30, 2017 20:42:47 GMT
Well I'll acknowledge your work there even if nobody else does
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Post by ian on Jun 30, 2017 20:55:16 GMT
The model is to sell 1 player per season. The money from Sercs wasn't huge, but the comp from MAPP going to Leicester... He was under contract, and if they are, as reported, prepared to pay him £500k a year, could Oxford's compensation be double that?
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Post by MJB on Jun 30, 2017 21:11:31 GMT
The model is to sell 1 player per season. The money from Sercs wasn't huge, but the comp from MAPP going to Leicester... He was under contract, and if they are, as reported, prepared to pay him £500k a year, could Oxford's compensation be double that? Can't imagine it'll be anywhere near that high (but equally, would have no idea what the figure actually would be). Who knows!
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Post by manorlounger on Jun 30, 2017 21:14:07 GMT
Yes, Elmes is wearing his 'f*ck me ' shoes? Now, this is an interesting concept and one that I had not thought to consider previously but, having had my eyes opened, I am sure that this has legs. (if you will pardon the insipid pun) I can see it now, first home game, out onto the pitch walks our beloved chairman and to the tune of the fiddlers jig, lifts his feet in time to the music to display these wonderful creations. Gathering pace he is joined by the board and all of the backroom staff in a tribute to all those who would doubt his mission in life, OUFC forever! Huzzah! I am quite taken by emotion..... please excuse me...
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Post by gilgy on Jun 30, 2017 22:22:17 GMT
Perhaps it's a question that has been raised BY candidates at interview:
"I noticed, looking back at the Oxford Mail, that you spoke about the club's model being one where we would look to sell one key player each year... will I need to do that?"
Credit to Eales, as if he's going against that model to support the new manager, it might mean he has to fork out a bit more as well to support the strong budget he's offered the new manager...
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Post by makv on Jul 1, 2017 0:19:01 GMT
Just means we'll have a squad of 18 instead of 22. Quality not quantity. 18 is plenty, 4 less hot dogs he'll have to shell out for on the minibus on the way home. Just reel in it. Soooooo boring. Also, "fewer" not "less".
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 1, 2017 7:25:16 GMT
I read it as, no one is for sell and we don't need to sell but if someone is going to bid £2million + for someone like Johnson it would be hard to say no to that sort of money.
Every player is for sale at the right price.
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Post by beyondthefourth on Jul 1, 2017 8:53:05 GMT
‘is the first thing I have got to do sell players?’
Was the question Eales hypothetically asked himself.
I imagine we have the budget to bring in a couple of good transfers, without having to first sell anyone.
If we do get a big bid for someone, then we can start putting that towards a proper 25 man squad.
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Post by nige01ox on Jul 1, 2017 10:28:47 GMT
The model is to sell 1 player per season. The money from Sercs wasn't huge, but the comp from MAPP going to Leicester... He was under contract, and if they are, as reported, prepared to pay him £500k a year, could Oxford's compensation be double that? Well they've earned mahoosive bucks in the last couple of years from their premiership title and then being in last year's champions league, so I'd hope they'd have paid us a fair amount of compo for rather unceremoniously pinching our manager off us. Certainly more than they'd have been contractually obliged to do.
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