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Post by ryaniobirdio on May 14, 2017 9:44:49 GMT
I am not prepared to support this shitty competition with fookin B teams in it. I didn't go to the final last year because I wanted to make a futile gesture. What can be done to show the EFL that B teams are pointless? I've said it once.....I'll say it a 100 times. All Football League fans should cancel their Sky subscriptions. Yes, the clubs are the ones making the decision. But they are doing so because they are financially desperate. And they are financially desperate because the Premier League has syphoned off 99% of the finance in football. The Accrington chairman was absolutely spot on when he talked about the Football League being paupers begging for scraps, and the Trophy decision is just the latest example of that. So instead, football fans need to hit the Premier League where it hurts - in their wallet, by going after the source of most of their funds, Sky. 250,000.....hell even 100,000 cancelled Sky subscriptions would really make them sit up and notice. But of course people don't want to do that, because it really would be a proper sacrifice. This is exactly what I said the other day, effectively. They've got people hooked on football and it's too important to give up. And because of that they can do absolutely whatever they want and no matter how much people grumble, they'll swallow it. Being angry and shouting is going to do absolutely nothing, it's going to take tangible action, so hitting the PL purse strings might actually be a start. In the same way that not being overawed by a big stadium and a giant arch last season would have resulted in a massive empty stadium in front of the nation and left them nowhere to hide. I don't blame them for just doing what they want with regards to all this. They're being allowed to do so.
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Post by ox4eva on May 14, 2017 21:16:40 GMT
Chucked sky about 3 years ago and have had my dodgy box giving me every channel, can't understand why more don't have a dodgy box!
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Post by bashamwonderland on May 14, 2017 21:39:21 GMT
How many people actually still have a Sky Sports subscription, I wonder?
There was a time, 10 years ago, where everybody had one. Now I could only name one friend who has it...
It would be interesting to see a trend of subscription levels over the years.
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Post by tonyw on May 15, 2017 0:21:43 GMT
Far more Oxford fans went to Wembley than didn't,tell me again why we should cancel our SKY subscriptions ? Well, you shouldn't - because you don't seem to care about Premier League B teams joining the Football League. For everyone that does, however, that is the most direct way fans have at their disposal to protest. At the moment, Sky Sports subscribers' cash goes to Sky, who give a chunk of it to the Premier League, who then use a tiny fraction of it to bribe the Football League to get their B teams into the Tinpot Trophy. We've seen that protests against the Football League clubs won't work - because despite attendances being down to the 100s for some fixtures, and despite 95% of respondents to surveys wanting the B team idea scrapped, the clubs are so desperate for the Premier League's cash that they still voted for B teams anyway. But cut off some of that cash at source, and you'll soon have the Premier League thinking twice about whether the Tinpot Trophy is worth the hassle.
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Post by rickyotto on May 15, 2017 1:15:06 GMT
How many threads do we need on this? It's holding its own I'd be interested to hear the Oxvox stance on this though?
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Post by saddletramp on May 15, 2017 7:29:47 GMT
Far more Oxford fans went to Wembley than didn't,tell me again why we should cancel our SKY subscriptions ? Well, you shouldn't - because you don't seem to care about Premier League B teams joining the Football League. For everyone that does, however, that is the most direct way fans have at their disposal to protest. At the moment, Sky Sports subscribers' cash goes to Sky, who give a chunk of it to the Premier League, who then use a tiny fraction of it to bribe the Football League to get their B teams into the Tinpot Trophy. We've seen that protests against the Football League clubs won't work - because despite attendances being down to the 100s for some fixtures, and despite 95% of respondents to surveys wanting the B team idea scrapped, the clubs are so desperate for the Premier League's cash that they still voted for B teams anyway. But cut off some of that cash at source, and you'll soon have the Premier League thinking twice about whether the Tinpot Trophy is worth the hassle. We do away with SKY,the PL gets less cash,they then drop the solidarity payments to the FL,a paltry sum of £129 Million per season. £129m might be a drop in the Ocean to the PL,but could a lot of clubs survive without it ? Oxford United will receive £450,000 from the PL this season,f''k em,we will just put up the price of S/Ts to cover the shortfall,4,500 S/T holders,we will just put up the price by £100 each(extra to what we have already increased the prices by) Voila,shortfall covered. "and you'll soon have the Premier League thinking twice about whether the Tinpot Trophy is worth the hassle" The PL don't think twice about the tinpot trophy now,most clubs didn't take up the offer last season,meaning they had to go begging to the Championship to fill in some spaces. I have a friend who is a S/T holder at Chelsea,he assures me they wont be taking up a place in the Trophy next season. Also,guess what ? I watch other sport apart from Football. So because someone ITK on a forum of a small League 1 football team,assures me that within 5 years B teams will be playing Oxford United,i have to deny myself the pleasure of watching the Ashes,Rugby League,Horse racing and every other sport that i enjoy !! P.S. If Premier B teams were in league 1 this season,Sunderland B won the league by 20 points,would they then get kicked out because the A team are now in the FL ? Only 6 teams have been in the PL since it started,so do they swop the teams every season,3 in 3 out ?
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Post by cj on May 15, 2017 8:14:15 GMT
I am not prepared to support this shitty competition with fookin B teams in it. I didn't go to the final last year because I wanted to make a futile gesture. What can be done to show the EFL that B teams are pointless? why don't you shoot some poo at the EFL?
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Post by tonyw on May 15, 2017 16:39:57 GMT
We do away with SKY,the PL gets less cash,they then drop the solidarity payments to the FL,a paltry sum of £129 Million per season. £129m might be a drop in the Ocean to the PL,but could a lot of clubs survive without it ? Oxford United will receive £450,000 from the PL this season,f''k em,we will just put up the price of S/Ts to cover the shortfall,4,500 S/T holders,we will just put up the price by £100 each(extra to what we have already increased the prices by) Voila,shortfall covered. "and you'll soon have the Premier League thinking twice about whether the Tinpot Trophy is worth the hassle" The PL don't think twice about the tinpot trophy now,most clubs didn't take up the offer last season,meaning they had to go begging to the Championship to fill in some spaces. I have a friend who is a S/T holder at Chelsea,he assures me they wont be taking up a place in the Trophy next season. Also,guess what ? I watch other sport apart from Football. So because someone ITK on a forum of a small League 1 football team,assures me that within 5 years B teams will be playing Oxford United,i have to deny myself the pleasure of watching the Ashes,Rugby League,Horse racing and every other sport that i enjoy !! P.S. If Premier B teams were in league 1 this season,Sunderland B won the league by 20 points,would they then get kicked out because the A team are now in the FL ? Only 6 teams have been in the PL since it started,so do they swop the teams every season,3 in 3 out ? You don't have to deny yourself anything. Really my comments aren't aimed at people like you at all. You seem to be - and seem to throughout these discussions always have been - OK with the current state of football. In which the Premier League props up the football league, whose clubs are no longer able to sustain themselves independently in large part because of the wage inflation caused by the massive influx of cash at the top of the game. My comments are all aimed at the people who scream and shout about the evils of Premier League B teams, and the need for mass action and a boycott.....but then go home and sit in front of the Premier League on Sunday, feeding more money into the coffers of the very people who are supposedly ruining the game. And presenting to them a possible alternative means of attack. p.s. The Premier League think just enough about the Trophy to be willing to cut the Football League a 3 million pound cheque. Which is absolutely nothing to them.....but is enough money to persuade clubs like Notts County to vote against the wishes of 95% of their own fans.
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Post by makv on May 21, 2017 19:05:59 GMT
How many threads do we need on this? It's holding its own I'd be interested to hear the Oxvox stance on this though? They think one thread is quite enough. If not one too many.
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Post by Jem on May 21, 2017 19:15:25 GMT
We'll be opening this subject up for debate at Thursday OxVox AGM.
Cheers
Jem
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Post by rickyotto on May 23, 2017 21:27:52 GMT
We'll be opening this subject up for debate at Thursday OxVox AGM. Cheers Jem Thank you sir
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Post by londonroader on May 23, 2017 22:43:48 GMT
We'll be opening this subject up for debate at Thursday OxVox AGM. Cheers Jem Can you make it "any other business" so those of us not really bothered either way can slip off as this might go on a bit, don't want to miss the juicy bits
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