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Post by unification on Nov 13, 2017 11:33:29 GMT
Wouldn't it be nice if people could just agree that disgraceful, murderous outrages by terrorists from both Republican and Unionist sides are / were both equally bad? Quite. Petty point scoring is the reason why undercurrents continue to exist in Northern Irish politics. Why supposed ‘proud’ Englishmen on here feel obliged to stick their oar into a quarrel that isn’t theirs boggles my mind. I see that sort of argument a lot on here. You make one point and some posters resort to attacking the opposing argument rather than defending their own. ‘X isn’t very good, is he?’ ‘Yeah, but Y is rubbish too – why aren’t we talking about that?!’ Some critical thinking skills do need sharpening on here. Anyway, back on point. Here’s hoping COD gets a starring role tomorrow right. It puts him on a bigger stage and who knows who could be watching. We’ve got a great sell on clause with him that could well be brought into play soon if COD continues to perform at an international level.
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O'Dowda
Nov 13, 2017 11:56:45 GMT
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 13, 2017 11:56:45 GMT
Anyone remember poster Pogue Mahone? As his username suggested, he was an Irish Republican. He never tried to excuse or condone IRA / INLA / whatever terrorism, but he did offer thoughtful historical perspective.
Unfortunately, his ‘opponents’ on here did not reciprocate in debate but just responded with bile and hate.
Oh for a balanced debate now and again rather than testosterone-filled ranting.
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O'Dowda
Nov 13, 2017 12:52:11 GMT
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Post by ox4eva on Nov 13, 2017 12:52:11 GMT
Wouldn't it be nice if people could just agree that disgraceful, murderous outrages by terrorists from both Republican and Unionist sides are / were both equally bad? Quite. Petty point scoring is the reason why undercurrents continue to exist in Northern Irish politics. Why supposed ‘proud’ Englishmen on here feel obliged to stick their oar into a quarrel that isn’t theirs boggles my mind. I see that sort of argument a lot on here. You make one point and some posters resort to attacking the opposing argument rather than defending their own. ‘X isn’t very good, is he?’ ‘Yeah, but Y is rubbish too – why aren’t we talking about that?!’ Some critical thinking skills do need sharpening on here. Anyway, back on point. Here’s hoping COD gets a starring role tomorrow right. It puts him on a bigger stage and who knows who could be watching. We’ve got a great sell on clause with him that could well be brought into play soon if COD continues to perform at an international level. I have relatives in Ulster, I served in Ulster, the Ulster folk are our kith and kin so yes I will stick my oar in to defend the loyal people of Ulster. The ROI is a foreign state that is no friend of our country. I have nothing against any REAL Irish individuals and have friends who are Irish and they hate the republican movement as much as I do. The English who feel the need to support the ROI want to maybe go along to some of their games and hear some of the songs that are sung and how they feel about the English.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 13, 2017 13:10:26 GMT
Personally, I prefer my life with a little less hate.
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O'Dowda
Nov 13, 2017 13:22:54 GMT
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Post by ox4eva on Nov 13, 2017 13:22:54 GMT
Personally, I prefer my life with a little less hate. So do I, shame so many people have such a bitter hatred of the English..
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Post by sihath on Nov 13, 2017 13:29:28 GMT
Personally, I prefer my life with a little less hate. So do I, shame so many people have such a bitter hatred of the English.. It's not like the English/British have ever done anything that might prompt that kind of hate either is it...? I ought to point out that I'm not someone who thinks we should be constantly apologising as a country for things that were done before anyone around today was alive, however, I'm not naive enough to think that those same things won't have an affect on how we are viewed by other nations. We've been at war or invaded pretty much every other country in the world, that's bound to have an impact on how we are seen by those nations.
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O'Dowda
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Post by concretebob on Nov 13, 2017 13:30:13 GMT
I hope neither of you two never chanted 'he's one of our own' when COD played for us. That would be awkward.
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Post by unification on Nov 13, 2017 13:34:28 GMT
Quite. Petty point scoring is the reason why undercurrents continue to exist in Northern Irish politics. Why supposed ‘proud’ Englishmen on here feel obliged to stick their oar into a quarrel that isn’t theirs boggles my mind. I see that sort of argument a lot on here. You make one point and some posters resort to attacking the opposing argument rather than defending their own. ‘X isn’t very good, is he?’ ‘Yeah, but Y is rubbish too – why aren’t we talking about that?!’ Some critical thinking skills do need sharpening on here. Anyway, back on point. Here’s hoping COD gets a starring role tomorrow right. It puts him on a bigger stage and who knows who could be watching. We’ve got a great sell on clause with him that could well be brought into play soon if COD continues to perform at an international level. I have relatives in Ulster, I served in Ulster, the Ulster folk are our kith and kin so yes I will stick my oar in to defend the loyal people of Ulster. The ROI is a foreign state that is no friend of our country. I have nothing against any REAL Irish individuals and have friends who are Irish and they hate the republican movement as much as I do.The English who feel the need to support the ROI want to maybe go along to some of their games and hear some of the songs that are sung and how they feel about the English. The Irish equivalent of 'I'm not racist but ...'. Your post is confusing. What defines a 'real' Irish individual? Do you mean someone who is a citizen of the 'foreign state that is no friend of our country' ROI who wants Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK? I think you'd find many who couldn't care less. It's a decision for the people of Northern Ireland to decide, not for the British nor citizens of the Republic of Ireland. Why the 'hate' too? You hate people you've never met because they have a differing opinion to you? What a bewildering life you choose to lead.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 13, 2017 13:39:23 GMT
Hate is the key word. I'd just like to make it clear to any non-English readers that being 'proud to be English' doesn't mean you have to display prejudice towards other groups. The two concepts seem to be confused here.
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O'Dowda
Nov 13, 2017 15:10:35 GMT
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Post by ox4eva on Nov 13, 2017 15:10:35 GMT
I have relatives in Ulster, I served in Ulster, the Ulster folk are our kith and kin so yes I will stick my oar in to defend the loyal people of Ulster. The ROI is a foreign state that is no friend of our country. I have nothing against any REAL Irish individuals and have friends who are Irish and they hate the republican movement as much as I do.The English who feel the need to support the ROI want to maybe go along to some of their games and hear some of the songs that are sung and how they feel about the English. The Irish equivalent of 'I'm not racist but ...'. Your post is confusing. What defines a 'real' Irish individual? Do you mean someone who is a citizen of the 'foreign state that is no friend of our country' ROI who wants Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK? I think you'd find many who couldn't care less. It's a decision for the people of Northern Ireland to decide, not for the British nor citizens of the Republic of Ireland. Why the 'hate' too? You hate people you've never met because they have a differing opinion to you? What a bewildering life you choose to lead. Someone who is actually born in that country, it's not hard to work out! I think you will find that anyone born in Northern Ireland is British. The ROI state is no friend of the UK of GB & NI.
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O'Dowda
Nov 13, 2017 15:18:17 GMT
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Post by ox4eva on Nov 13, 2017 15:18:17 GMT
Hate is the key word. I'd just like to make it clear to any non-English readers that being 'proud to be English' doesn't mean you have to display prejudice towards other groups. The two concepts seem to be confused here. You fail to address the clear prejudice against the English and indeed wider British people from your republican friends.. You know those who are still trying to bomb and maim right now, those who will try and kill anone they see as a Brit. Funny how little apologists like you probably have no idea of how life really is on Ulster and how people suffer at the hands of these cowards. Comrade Corbyn would be so proud of you..
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 13, 2017 15:23:48 GMT
Hate is the key word. I'd just like to make it clear to any non-English readers that being 'proud to be English' doesn't mean you have to display prejudice towards other groups. The two concepts seem to be confused here. You fail to address the clear prejudice against the English and indeed wider British people from your republican friends.. You know those who are still trying to bomb and maim right now, those who will try and kill anone they see as a Brit. Funny how little apologists like you probably have no idea of how life really is on Ulster and how people suffer at the hands of these cowards. Comrade Corbyn would be so proud of you.. I don't have Republican friends. I don't know any Republicans. I don't support the Republican cause, ergo I cannot be an apologist for it. Hatred from Republicans, Unionists or Little Englanders is equally pathetic, in my view.
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Post by scotters on Nov 13, 2017 15:33:52 GMT
We could do with a COD or two in our squad right now, that's for sure.
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Post by unification on Nov 13, 2017 15:42:56 GMT
The Irish equivalent of 'I'm not racist but ...'. Your post is confusing. What defines a 'real' Irish individual? Do you mean someone who is a citizen of the 'foreign state that is no friend of our country' ROI who wants Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK? I think you'd find many who couldn't care less. It's a decision for the people of Northern Ireland to decide, not for the British nor citizens of the Republic of Ireland. Why the 'hate' too? You hate people you've never met because they have a differing opinion to you? What a bewildering life you choose to lead. Someone who is actually born in that country, it's not hard to work out! I think you will find that anyone born in Northern Ireland is British. The ROI state is no friend of the UK of GB & NI. Your post once again makes very little sense. So, a ‘real’ Irish individual is someone born in that country, correct? Our former player Tony Capaldi was born in Oslo – does that make him Norwegian? Cliff Richard was born in Lucknow – does that make him Indian? If someone is born at 30,000ft over international waters, what does that make them? Even if we assume the nonsensical point you’ve made above to be true, aren’t Irish citizens culpable for the continued existence of the Republic of Ireland? They vote in its government, contribute to its taxes (with a tiny amount of help from Apple) and provide private and public sector infrastructure. You mention you have friends who are Irish yet appear to ‘hate’ the state they come from. If you hate the state so much, why even choose to have friends who have made it what it is? Also, just by saying that the Republic of Ireland is ‘no friend’ of the UK enough times doesn’t make it true. There’s ample evidence of good relations between the UK and ROI . It’s you who chooses not to see that seemingly.
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Post by Marked Ox on Nov 13, 2017 16:11:15 GMT
Someone who is actually born in that country, it's not hard to work out! I think you will find that anyone born in Northern Ireland is British. The ROI state is no friend of the UK of GB & NI. If someone is born at 30,000ft over international waters, what does that make them? The offspring of Superman and Wonder Woman?
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Post by mooro on Nov 13, 2017 18:59:59 GMT
If someone is born at 30,000ft over international waters, what does that make them? The offspring of Superman and Wonder Woman? Now THAT would be a video worth watching.....
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O'Dowda
Nov 13, 2017 20:01:45 GMT
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 13, 2017 20:01:45 GMT
The offspring of Superman and Wonder Woman? Now THAT would be a video worth watching..... I'm sure if you Google it you will find something!
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Post by Mark on Nov 28, 2017 14:33:13 GMT
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Post by mooro on Nov 28, 2017 16:27:24 GMT
Suckers - he's not injured - it's just a smokescreen to cover his next move
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Post by MJB on Nov 28, 2017 20:50:34 GMT
A shame as he had become a regular starter and was beginning to score and assist. Hope he’s back soon.
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O'Dowda
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Post by Denissmithswig on Nov 28, 2017 22:18:38 GMT
They do say man flu can be serious!
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Post by saddletramp on Nov 29, 2017 6:59:27 GMT
As it's obviously crucial to OUFC what O'Dowda is doing down in Brizzle,it's good to see that people are scouring the Bristol Post for news. Keep up the good work,can you tag the Bristol Post and give us a daily update on his injury ?
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Post by Toeby on Nov 29, 2017 7:17:47 GMT
Keep up the good work,can you tag the Bristol Post and give us a daily update on his injury ? I'd love to take this on but I'm often too busy reading through the absolutely belting threads on this forum, like this one: www.yellowsforum.co.uk/thread/26661/traffic-alert
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Post by MJB on Nov 29, 2017 8:21:00 GMT
As it's obviously crucial to OUFC what O'Dowda is doing down in Brizzle,it's good to see that people are scouring the Bristol Post for news. Keep up the good work,can you tag the Bristol Post and give us a daily update on his injury ? To play devils advocate, it’s potentially the case that O’Dowda has some kind of appearance or sell-on fee related to his move to Bristol City. Whether that is actually the case, I have no idea!
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Post by unification on Nov 29, 2017 11:02:10 GMT
As it's obviously crucial to OUFC what O'Dowda is doing down in Brizzle,it's good to see that people are scouring the Bristol Post for news. Keep up the good work,can you tag the Bristol Post and give us a daily update on his injury ? To play devils advocate, it’s potentially the case that O’Dowda has some kind of appearance or sell-on fee related to his move to Bristol City. Whether that is actually the case, I have no idea! I think we do have quite a tasty sell on fee. That’s why we keep an eye on COD. Despite not being an Oxford player anymore, his success elsewhere could command us some riches later down the line. And to the mix that he plays international football as well and you have a player worth keeping tabs on. Generally, most of our ex-players are playing way below Championship level so unless they end up in the media for reasons outside of football (say, being caught having it away in public a la Steve Anthrobus), we’re not going to go out of our way posting on them. I’m sure we’ve had an ex-players/where are they now thread here in the past although RageOn does an amazing amount of work keeping theirs up-to-date. Keep up this thread. If it winds up Sozzletramp, it only adds to the forum fun!
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Post by MJB on Nov 29, 2017 11:40:21 GMT
To play devils advocate, it’s potentially the case that O’Dowda has some kind of appearance or sell-on fee related to his move to Bristol City. Whether that is actually the case, I have no idea! I think we do have quite a tasty sell on fee. That’s why we keep an eye on COD. Despite not being an Oxford player anymore, his success elsewhere could command us some riches later down the line. And to the mix that he plays international football as well and you have a player worth keeping tabs on. Generally, most of our ex-players are playing way below Championship level so unless they end up in the media for reasons outside of football (say, being caught having it away in public a la Steve Anthrobus), we’re not going to go out of our way posting on them. I’m sure we’ve had an ex-players/where are they now thread here in the past although RageOn does an amazing amount of work keeping theirs up-to-date. Keep up this thread. If it winds up Sozzletramp, it only adds to the forum fun! I had no idea idea about the Anthrobus incident you refer to. It’s also not something I’m inclined to Google!
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Post by unification on Nov 29, 2017 13:07:47 GMT
I think we do have quite a tasty sell on fee. That’s why we keep an eye on COD. Despite not being an Oxford player anymore, his success elsewhere could command us some riches later down the line. And to the mix that he plays international football as well and you have a player worth keeping tabs on. Generally, most of our ex-players are playing way below Championship level so unless they end up in the media for reasons outside of football (say, being caught having it away in public a la Steve Anthrobus), we’re not going to go out of our way posting on them. I’m sure we’ve had an ex-players/where are they now thread here in the past although RageOn does an amazing amount of work keeping theirs up-to-date. Keep up this thread. If it winds up Sozzletramp, it only adds to the forum fun! I had no idea idea about the Anthrobus incident you refer to. It’s also not something I’m inclined to Google! news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/6472187.stmThankfully no video to enhance your viewing pleasure.
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Post by MJB on Nov 29, 2017 13:16:40 GMT
Well I’ll avoid making any comment about it being one of the only times he scored on grass, mainly as the incident is over a decade old so not exactly topical!
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Post by Maurice Earp on Nov 30, 2017 9:15:10 GMT
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