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Post by Junior on Mar 19, 2017 3:42:13 GMT
Noticed Charlie missed out the way in which he and his father conducted themselves over the move. If he had acted like roofe had done you'd get a much different outlook towards O'Dowda than you do now.
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Mar 19, 2017 7:14:17 GMT
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Post by winchesterox on Mar 19, 2017 7:14:17 GMT
As a quick aside, I note that Roofe was an unused sub yesterday.
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Post by saddletramp on Mar 19, 2017 7:23:40 GMT
Started and played 90 mins for Bristol in their 4-0 win over Huddersfield... not really involved in any of the goals though but still is doing a lot better than some seem to be claiming, he's not playing every week but has been involved a lot whether it be starting or off the bench The desire to do down COD is unattractive and thick. A) without him we would not have gone up last season. A player we paid nothing for scored 10 goals and had 17 assists! Check that out against MacDonald, Ryan Taylor and co. B) the money we got for him looks increasingly like having been the factor that has kept us going this season. If the Board reckons that the club is unsustainable now, imagine what it would have been without that 1.2 million upfront. C) there is more to come, doubtless based on appearances and he is closing in on 20 appearances this season, which - for a first dig at the Championship - is a pretty fair crack, and not many fewer than he played in League 2 last year. From what I saw last night, Brizzle are going to stay up and he will serve as an ongoing advertisement that you can make a top two tier career out of the OUFC Academy and therefore youngsters don't need to go to other academies further away. All good stuff, so why the bitterness? Some of those who are most virulent about him, I note, are the same ones who are very happy to condone public fibbing in others when it suits! A) without him we would not have gone up last season. A player we paid nothing for scored 10 goals and had 17 assists! Check that out against MacDonald, Ryan Taylor and co. Garbage. He started 22 games on the bench last season,(including the must win last game against Wycombe) if he was such a vital player to OUFC why wasn't he good enough to start in those games ? As for "without his goals and assist we wouldn't have gone up" Well without Jordan Bowerys winner at Pompey we wouldnt have gone up (automatic) so you is your statement (without him we wouldn't have gone up) relevant ? Last season was a team effort,IMO the only players that would have cost us promotion if they had been absent would have been Roofe and Hylton,certainly not a squad player who spent more time on the bench than the pitch. Best bit of business OUFC have done in years.
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Mar 19, 2017 11:08:54 GMT
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Mar 19, 2017 11:08:54 GMT
He didn't get 17 assists last season, it was about 7 or 8. I keep seeing 17 assists bandied around and it's just not accurate.
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Post by Junior on Mar 19, 2017 11:46:50 GMT
But Charlie said he did so it must be true...
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Post by oldman159 on Mar 20, 2017 9:52:43 GMT
RoI under 20 player of the year, apparently. Well done Callum
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Mar 20, 2017 17:46:47 GMT
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Post by bristolred on Mar 20, 2017 17:46:47 GMT
Ever since Newcastle away he has randomly stepped up a gear. Played very well against Huddersfield and fans want him starting from now on, which wont happen!
Good luck tomorrow big game against a strong bolton team who we thumped 6-0 last season, amazing what confidence can do!
P.S Still laughing at Swindle!!
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Mar 20, 2017 22:01:06 GMT
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Post by scotchegg on Mar 20, 2017 22:01:06 GMT
But Charlie said he did so it must be true... Facts, facts, facts!!!!
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Post by jimmycarterxi on Mar 21, 2017 0:56:20 GMT
But Charlie said he did so it must be true... Facts, facts, facts!!!! Roofe on 4K a week!! 😂😂😂 priceless guess work from Charlie
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Post by Junior on Mar 21, 2017 2:43:28 GMT
But........!
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Post by berliner on Mar 28, 2017 21:31:19 GMT
Another 20 minutes for the ROI tonight in the friendly defeat against Iceland...
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Post by bullox on Mar 28, 2017 21:34:44 GMT
From the RTE website:
"Flat and short of inspiration in the first-half, the introduction of Horgan, O'Dowda and O'Kane gave Ireland some really attacking thrust and pace and all three, along with Boyle, really staked their claim for a more regular starting place."
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Post by Mark on Jun 8, 2017 13:31:12 GMT
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Post by headingtonutd on Jun 8, 2017 14:12:15 GMT
It reads like he wants to get more consistent and get more playing time. Can't see much more in it than that to be honest.
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Post by Mark on Jun 8, 2017 15:12:19 GMT
It reads like he wants to get more consistent and get more playing time. Can't see much more in it than that to be honest. Maybe, but it's unusual for players to say this publicly. Normally you get the line of "it's a team game, I'll have to earn my way into the starting line-up, the other lads are playing well ..." So it could be a shout out to other clubs that he would take a move to a team where he gets more starts.
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Post by didcotox on Jun 8, 2017 15:20:28 GMT
Bit of a pointless article. The paper just trying to fill column inches in a dull closed season.
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Post by tatabanya on Jun 8, 2017 15:47:11 GMT
It reads like he wants to get more consistent and get more playing time. Can't see much more in it than that to be honest. Maybe, but it's unusual for players to say this publicly. Normally you get the line of "it's a team game, I'll have to earn my way into the starting line-up, the other lads are playing well ..." So it could be a shout out to other clubs that he would take a move to a team where he gets more starts. It was during the ROI press conference
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Post by Junior on Jun 8, 2017 17:05:17 GMT
Do we or have we got any extra £££ coming from Bristol City following his caps for ROI?
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Post by eugeneox on Jun 8, 2017 19:12:13 GMT
It reads like he wants to get more consistent and get more playing time. Can't see much more in it than that to be honest. Maybe, but it's unusual for players to say this publicly. Normally you get the line of "it's a team game, I'll have to earn my way into the starting line-up, the other lads are playing well ..." So it could be a shout out to other clubs that he would take a move to a team where he gets more starts. Is he looking for a loan move, maybe? Would you take him back?
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Post by slimjim on Jun 8, 2017 20:27:26 GMT
Maybe, but it's unusual for players to say this publicly. Normally you get the line of "it's a team game, I'll have to earn my way into the starting line-up, the other lads are playing well ..." So it could be a shout out to other clubs that he would take a move to a team where he gets more starts. Is he looking for a loan move, maybe? Would you take him back? Whilst DE is there we will never see COD again.
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Post by Mark on Jun 9, 2017 8:39:53 GMT
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Post by slimjim on Sept 21, 2017 6:43:49 GMT
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Post by ox4eva on Sept 21, 2017 7:50:44 GMT
So he was not supporting his country England in the euros? Another plastic paddy
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Post by yellowsarmy on Sept 21, 2017 7:52:43 GMT
So he went from being in and out of the side under Mapp in league 2 to bossing it about for a championship club two seasons later. It seems the lad made a good decision to move on. He got a lot of stick here but he wasn't playing consistently despite him being one of the best players and the move seems to have worked out for him. I think it is something we need to consider that if we want to develop young talent and keep them then they need to be playing. Think Josh and canice might be the next one's to consider going elsewhere. Especially if canice has international ambitions warming the bench in league 1 isn't going to help.
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Post by paulbeasley on Sept 21, 2017 8:38:56 GMT
So he went from being in and out of the side under Mapp in league 2 to bossing it about for a championship club two seasons later. It seems the lad made a good decision to move on. He got a lot of stick here but he wasn't playing consistently despite him being one of the best players and the move seems to have worked out for him. I think it is something we need to consider that if we want to develop young talent and keep them then they need to be playing. Think Josh and canice might be the next one's to consider going elsewhere. Especially if canice has international ambitions warming the bench in league 1 isn't going to help. Two seasons ago under Mapp we got promoted which probably suggests his team selections were more good than bad. I have no complaints. Where do you get bossing it from? Seems he was absolutely brilliant against Stoke. But Bristol City have played 8 league games. He was sub in the first 5. Coming on in 73rd, 67th, 73rd,60th & 86th minutes. Game 6 he started and was only taken off in the 89th minute & he played all of the next match. Game 8 he was sub again coming on in the 89th minute. So he's not really played many minutes in the league this season. Hope he does well and starts to score particularly if we've got a sell on clause. He's only 22 so there's still some time for improvement.
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 21, 2017 10:00:48 GMT
So he went from being in and out of the side under Mapp in league 2 to bossing it about for a championship club two seasons later. It seems the lad made a good decision to move on. He got a lot of stick here but he wasn't playing consistently despite him being one of the best players and the move seems to have worked out for him. I think it is something we need to consider that if we want to develop young talent and keep them then they need to be playing. Think Josh and canice might be the next one's to consider going elsewhere. Especially if canice has international ambitions warming the bench in league 1 isn't going to help. Two seasons ago under Mapp we got promoted which probably suggests his team selections were more good than bad. I have no complaints. Where do you get bossing it from? Seems he was absolutely brilliant against Stoke. But Bristol City have played 8 league games. He was sub in the first 5. Coming on in 73rd, 67th, 73rd,60th & 86th minutes. Game 6 he started and was only taken off in the 89th minute & he played all of the next match. Game 8 he was sub again coming on in the 89th minute. So he's not really played many minutes in the league this season. Hope he does well and starts to score particularly if we've got a sell on clause. He's only 22 so there's still some time for improvement. What's not in doubt is that it's been a good move for him. To go from bench-warming behind Alex MacDonald for a League 2 side aged 20 to being in and out of the first team at a top 10 Championship club 18 months later is pretty solid development. As I understand it, OUFC get more money every extra 20 games or so that he plays, so we should be cheering him all the way. I agree with Paul that MApp's success earns him the right to have his decisions granted a fair amount of doubt benefit! He was also excellent with young players and Callum definitely developed in his two years under MApp (as he should have done). But, equally, managers have players, and types of players, that they like more than others for reasons other than just quality. And I'm not sure that MApp was very big on pacey wingers who stretched the game but could (as such play dictates) sometimes lose the ball and leave you open to counter. Take Marvin. Towards the end, MApp would play MJ almost anywhere but at wing. I think he felt safer and more solid with a wide midfielder. Watching Gino a bit, he's the type of player who would have given MApp a coronary!
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 21, 2017 10:09:02 GMT
So he went from being in and out of the side under Mapp in league 2 to bossing it about for a championship club two seasons later. It seems the lad made a good decision to move on. He got a lot of stick here but he wasn't playing consistently despite him being one of the best players and the move seems to have worked out for him. I think it is something we need to consider that if we want to develop young talent and keep them then they need to be playing. Think Josh and canice might be the next one's to consider going elsewhere. Especially if canice has international ambitions warming the bench in league 1 isn't going to help. Two seasons ago under Mapp we got promoted which probably suggests his team selections were more good than bad. I have no complaints. Where do you get bossing it from? Seems he was absolutely brilliant against Stoke. But Bristol City have played 8 league games. He was sub in the first 5. Coming on in 73rd, 67th, 73rd,60th & 86th minutes. Game 6 he started and was only taken off in the 89th minute & he played all of the next match. Game 8 he was sub again coming on in the 89th minute. So he's not really played many minutes in the league this season. Hope he does well and starts to score particularly if we've got a sell on clause. He's only 22 so there's still some time for improvement. Another un-related but interesting point is that in retrospect MApp would have had to go some NOT to get us promoted two seasons ago. The following players had key roles in our success: Roofe COD Lundstram Baldock Wright...... all now Championship players Dunkley Maguire Skarz Sercombe..... all established League 1 first-teamers Hylton Mullins MacDonald.... top League 2 plAyers at the least Remember when Ashton said that the recruitment team and MApp would build a team to take us straight through to the championship? I reckon that they probably achieved that startling goal. How many League 2 sides you come up against have 5 players who will shortly be playing in the Championship?
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 21, 2017 14:40:44 GMT
But they are up to that standard by now, aren't they?
We'd have the following X1 from the last three years.
Eastwood Baldock/kenny; Wright; Dunkley; Skarz COD lundstram ledson/sercombe Johnson Roofe Hylton/ Maguire
Heck of a team that, with phenomenal goal power, pace, character, nous. Hard to think that - as Ashton predicted - that side would not have been competing strongly for promotion. Baldock/Kenny is a bit of a cheat, as they were never ours.
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Post by dubaiyellow on Sept 21, 2017 14:50:50 GMT
But they are up to that standard by now, aren't they? We'd have the following X1 from the last three years. Eastwood Baldock/kenny; Wright; Dunkley; Skarz COD lundstram ledson/sercombe Johnson Roofe Hylton/ Maguire Heck of a team that, with phenomenal goal power, pace, character, nous. Hard to think that - as Ashton predicted - that side would not have been competing strongly for promotion. Baldock/Kenny is a bit of a cheat, as they were never ours. Sorry Charlie I initially thought you were talking about promotion from league 1 last season not league 2. I realised my error and deleted my comment. ) do agree though, that is a heck of a team.
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Post by grenobleroad on Sept 21, 2017 14:53:07 GMT
But they are up to that standard by now, aren't they? We'd have the following X1 from the last three years. Eastwood Baldock/kenny; Wright; Dunkley; Skarz COD lundstram ledson/sercombe Johnson Roofe Hylton/ Maguire Heck of a team that, with phenomenal goal power, pace, character, nous. Hard to think that - as Ashton predicted - that side would not have been competing strongly for promotion. Baldock/Kenny is a bit of a cheat, as they were never ours. Sorry Charlie I initially thought you were talking about promotion from league 1 last season not league 2. I realised my error and deleted my comment. ) do agree though, that is a heck of a team. Glad you said you deleted your comment. I just assumed he was talking to himself again.
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