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Post by uptheus on Mar 12, 2016 18:46:13 GMT
I swear there was more flapping from our keeper today than you would find in a 20's silent movie about the Charleston. What does Wayne Brown coach them in exactly? So regardless of where we are next season we need two new keepers for next season. That was not the most enjoyable afternoon of my life, you just bloody knew we were going to be mugged. Appleton looked bewildered by what was unfolding before his eyes. He wasn't the only one. Two new keepers? Are we really going to find two keepers better than slocombe who are happy to sign without assurances that they are to be the first choice......I don't think so. We clearly need a more consistent keeper but I think we sign one and keep slocombe as the number 2 I think Slocombe is the better keeper. He's quicker with his distribution, comes out quicker to support defence. Like Buchel he's dodgy on crosses, but I think the defence has more confidence when he's in goal. On another point. Even though Dunkley had a good game, his poor clearance led to their goal.
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Post by sonofivan on Mar 12, 2016 18:55:09 GMT
I swear there was more flapping from our keeper today than you would find in a 20's silent movie about the Charleston. What does Wayne Brown coach them in exactly? So regardless of where we are next season we need two new keepers for next season. That was not the most enjoyable afternoon of my life, you just bloody knew we were going to be mugged. Appleton looked bewildered by what was unfolding before his eyes. He wasn't the only one. Love this post for the opening sentence. Laughed out loud!
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Post by behindthegoal on Mar 12, 2016 18:59:36 GMT
Waring can go back this evening...did he just come on to jog (slowly) around the pitch?? Did you miss the bit when he chased back to the corner flag in front of the Orient fans? He must have been near by...yes did see it, about the only thing he done.
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Post by Barts on Mar 12, 2016 19:09:34 GMT
I thought our biggest problem today was the first touch. The main culprits were Hylton and Bowery.
And Roofe has to start attacking the ball when its in the air, rather than wait for it to drop to his feet.
I see a lot of people have singled out Maguire. Unfair in my opinion, a lot of players were off their game today and for me he didn't stand out as any worse than the rest.
I also felt Maguire was the bigger man with the free kick. He got clarification and walked away, he wasn't happy, but who would be?
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Post by unification on Mar 12, 2016 19:11:25 GMT
Well, my thread starting run for league games has come to an end. Sad ☹️ .
That said, I could have seen this coming a mile off. Leyton Orient deserved their point against us at their place when they said 'right, if you're going to pass it around us, we'll just bully you instead' and MApp still hasn't got an answer to it - especially at home. I thought maybe we'd cracked it with Wimbledon away but perhaps not ...
Controversial but I think starting with Roofe and Lundstram makes us damn obvious as to what we're going to do and it comes as no surprise that we picked up some good points when forced to do something different with Ruffels in the side. I'd written off Ruffels a bit and admit to regretting that. He performed admirably in his spell in the side and teams who had possibly done their homework on Lundstram would have ended up seeing Ruffels there instead and not known what their game plan would be.
Ugh. At least it's another home game out of the way. Fed up of the Kass now.
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Post by yellowjam on Mar 12, 2016 19:13:47 GMT
I thought our biggest problem today was the first touch. The main culprits were Hylton and Bowery. And Roofe has to start attacking the ball when its in the air, rather than wait for it to drop to his feet. I see a lot of people have singled out Maguire. Unfair in my opinion, a lot of players were off their game today and for me he didn't stand out as any worse than the rest. I also felt Maguire was the bigger man with the free kick. He got clarification and walked away, he wasn't happy, but who would be? Agree with your first touch comment Bowery & Hyltons were both terrible at controlling the ball today along with others
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Post by eighteen93 on Mar 12, 2016 19:29:15 GMT
No excuses from Paul Cook.
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Post by monsieurgrumpy on Mar 12, 2016 19:29:57 GMT
Got a horrible feeling that the top three will be Northampton, Bristol Rovers and Accrington . We will be in the play-offs with Plymouth, Portsmouth and AN Other, with A N Other going up as the form team, like Crewe a few years back, against the three bigger wobbly sides.
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Post by unification on Mar 12, 2016 19:33:58 GMT
Amazing that we've ended still in 2nd place. I'm still not too worried about either Accrington or Bristol Rovers. Bristol Rovers have won more games than us (19 v 18) however have lost 12 games. Carlisle in 10th have lost fewer matches. Pretty much they can be relied upon to lose a few games. However, this is NOT 2005-06. We don't want to enter a mindset where we're relying on other teams to lose in order for us to get what we want. It's in our hands and we've got to withstand the pressure and that includes playing anti-football teams. No bitching and whining about what other teams throw at us - just deal with it. Fans, players and management are all involved in that.
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Post by concretebob on Mar 12, 2016 19:40:32 GMT
Got a horrible feeling that the top three will be Northampton, Bristol Rovers and Accrington . We will be in the play-offs with Plymouth, Portsmouth and AN Other, with A N Other going up as the form team, like Crewe a few years back, against the three bigger wobbly sides. Knowing how this league loves an Anti Football side, Orient or Wycombe will be that team
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Post by monsieurgrumpy on Mar 12, 2016 19:43:26 GMT
"We build up the supporters, only to let them down," says Paul Cook above. He goes on to mention how League 2 players can be good but lack the consistency to do it week in week out. He could have been talking about us. Only Northampton have been consistent this season, so how come Wilder couldn't be consistent when he was here? So damn frustrating being an Oxford fan. Remember now why I am Monsieur Grumpy!
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Post by billyox on Mar 12, 2016 19:48:28 GMT
I see a few people saying we can't cope with this anti football but we did cope with it that wasn't the problem the problem was the ball wasn't sticking up front it was just bouncing off our forward players and coming back at us. The 2nd problem was we had no width Maguire and roofe were playing far to centrally so when we did get the ball on the deck Lundstram and sercs had no options out wide
Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by jonnyb on Mar 12, 2016 20:01:06 GMT
Macguire - wtf
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Post by ox5 on Mar 12, 2016 20:02:57 GMT
What is the point going to home games then feeling so bloody cheesed off at the end of the match, yes I know the season is going well and we are second in the league but that is mainly because of the away record, well not everyone can get to away games and we want to see a decent home record. At this rate if we do get promoted it won't feel like a promotion!!!!
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Post by trainingcone on Mar 12, 2016 20:03:56 GMT
Just got back from the match. Very annoyed with the match. Poor ref and I felt that the team was it's own worst enemy. We've got a great squad, our final ball was poor. Frustrated with this me to you, you to me tippee tappee stuff in front of the goal. We just need someone just to have a shot on target with the first attempt. We get ourselves in a good position up front and then throw it away. Our home form is not good. It's going to be a close call at the end of the season. Either we go up in the autos or we will be involved with the playoffs. We must win against dagenham. It will be a tough match as they will try to get a goal and then park the bus on the goal line, just like other poor teams in the past even in the CONference days.
So COME ON YOU YELLOWS
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Post by pottersrightboot on Mar 12, 2016 20:25:09 GMT
McDonald should have started. It was always going to be a physical battle today. Got into a humdinger of a row with a fellow SSU denizen about our complete unwillingness to shoot. Who do we think we are, Wenger's Arsenal of 2004?
Hilton, Bowery, Maguire , all abysmal.
Dunkley was magnificent though.
Whole afternoon compounded by having a flat tyre in the car park after the game .
Football - bloody hell.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Mar 12, 2016 20:34:15 GMT
A thoroughly unenjoyable afternoon.
We were rubbish - couldn't pass, couldn't trap the ball, could hold the ball, couldn't retain the ball, managed one shot on target (and that from a free kick), were slow out of the blocks and slow altogether and only looked liked a team with a bit of fire in their bellies once we went one down. The honourable exception being Chey Dunkley - probably the only player to come out of the match with any credit.
Orient were rubbish. A dreadful display of hoof and hope, time-wasting and holding. Still, they have the consolation of three points and they did make the better chances. For their fan's sakes I hope they don't play like that every week.
The ref was rubbish. We should have had that nailed on penalty, the sending off of the Orient bloke was just wrong, he missed all the holding (and throwing to the floor in one case) and did nothing to stop the time-wasting. But as long as the throw ins are taken from the right place then that's OK then, eh?! Not the reason we lost, probably (although going 1-0 up if we'd had that penalty might have helped!) , but a complete numpty.
I haven't said this yet this season - but Tuesday really IS a must win game in my opinion now.
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Post by oldham on Mar 12, 2016 20:35:34 GMT
I cannot believe that professional footballers cannot control a ball that is passed to them at speed. Some of the first touches today were of the calibre to be seen tomorrow morning by lads with hangovers. I thought we only really got going when COD came on to be honest. Kevin Nolan used all his experience to fool the ref and to some extent fool some of our players into fouling him too. The way Orient took too much time over set pieces drove me mad but again that was Nolan taking the sting out of the game. Yet again found myself wound up by their w*nker fans...
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 12, 2016 21:26:58 GMT
I don't understand how the foul on Sercombe wasn't a penalty. But the Ref and Lino looked at each other and bottled the decision. Their player took out Sercombe and didn't win the ball. Considering what was given on Benteke earlier this week... That said, we looked sloppy all game. I don't think MacDonald was any better than Maguire. His final ball at times was hopeless.
We need to be far more street wise for the rest of the season. We don't do the nasty side game and at times it costs us.
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Post by bashamwonderland on Mar 12, 2016 21:46:52 GMT
I don't understand how the foul on Sercombe wasn't a penalty. But the Ref and Lino looked at each other and bottled the decision. Their player took out Sercombe and didn't win the ball. Considering what was given on Benteke earlier this week... That said, we looked sloppy all game. I don't think MacDonald was any better than Maguire. His final ball at times was hopeless. We need to be far more street wise for the rest of the season. We don't do the nasty side game and at times it costs us. I'd like to find a way to make all referees accountable for their actions. I didn't think today's ref was good but he wasn't terrible. He did get the penalty decision wrong and I think there should be a way of making him explain why he made the decision. Say each club were allowed, 5 times every season, the chance to complain about a referee's performance/decision, compelling him to write or release a statement explaining why he came to the conclusion he came to. It could help fans understand referees, and weed out the weaker ones.
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Post by Mark on Mar 12, 2016 21:49:19 GMT
Still fuming. The ref should have got his cards out much earlier. So many Orient players with fouls and back chat and time wasting and moving the ball forward for throw ins that we've been punished with a card this season.
I might be clutching at straws , but the ref's determination to let the game flow was straight to Leyton Boringient hands.
The final straw was the sending off taking minutes. Can't the ref instruct their captain to tell him to get a move on?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 21:58:07 GMT
Just got back from the match. Very annoyed with the match. Poor ref and I felt that the team was it's own worst enemy. We've got a great squad, our final ball was poor. Frustrated with this me to you, you to me tippee tappee stuff in front of the goal. We just need someone just to have a shot on target with the first attempt. We get ourselves in a good position up front and then throw it away. Our home form is not good. It's going to be a close call at the end of the season. Either we go up in the autos or we will be involved with the playoffs. We must win against dagenham. It will be a tough match as they will try to get a goal and then park the bus on the goal line, just like other poor teams in the past even in the CONference days. So COME ON YOU YELLOWS I used to have a cat that looked a bit like you. Abingdon, OX14
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 12, 2016 22:23:13 GMT
I don't understand how the foul on Sercombe wasn't a penalty. But the Ref and Lino looked at each other and bottled the decision. Their player took out Sercombe and didn't win the ball. Considering what was given on Benteke earlier this week... That said, we looked sloppy all game. I don't think MacDonald was any better than Maguire. His final ball at times was hopeless. We need to be far more street wise for the rest of the season. We don't do the nasty side game and at times it costs us. I'd like to find a way to make all referees accountable for their actions. I didn't think today's ref was good but he wasn't terrible. He did get the penalty decision wrong and I think there should be a way of making him explain why he made the decision. Say each club were allowed, 5 times every season, the chance to complain about a referee's performance/decision, compelling him to write or release a statement explaining why he came to the conclusion he came to. It could help fans understand referees, and weed out the weaker ones. Yeah. It is frustrating when you know if the foul had taken place outside of the box, it would have been given. But, that decision didn't make or break the game or hide from the performance. When you see Mullins give away a penalty for a questionable hand ball against Northampton and see Sercombe taken out today and it's not a penalty, it does come across badly that Refs will give marginal hand balls but won't fouls. Whether it's true or not.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Mar 12, 2016 22:30:25 GMT
Crap day but I still expect nine points from the next four games.
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Post by manorlounger on Mar 12, 2016 22:32:54 GMT
Sky highlightsWorth a look. Clearly shows that we should have had a penalty and, to my mind, a clear red card for a wild tackle on Roofe.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 12, 2016 22:49:16 GMT
What saved the Orient player was that Sercombe wasn't in on goal. Not that it should matter. And it looked like a corner. Never a goal kick
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Post by Long John Silver on Mar 12, 2016 22:52:58 GMT
Still fuming. The ref should have got his cards out much earlier. So many Orient players with fouls and back chat and time wasting and moving the ball forward for throw ins that we've been punished with a card this season. I might be clutching at straws , but the ref's determination to let the game flow was straight to Leyton Boringient hands. The final straw was the sending off taking minutes. Can't the ref instruct their captain to tell him to get a move on? It shouldn't really matter how long it takes the player to walk off as a competent ref would check his watch and just add the exact same amount of time on at the end.... This useless one clearly didn't.
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Post by Long John Silver on Mar 12, 2016 22:55:54 GMT
What saved the Orient player was that Sercombe wasn't in on goal. Not that it should matter. And it looked like a corner. Never a goal kick As you said, it's totally irrelevant where he was or wasn't going. Half the penalties given each week must be of players not in on goal.
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Post by Ocracoke Ox on Mar 13, 2016 0:05:59 GMT
So on to Tuesday,wish it was away! As the fans are going to be well flat for this game. I kind of agree with the first guy that phoned in. The atmosphere is so bad at the Kassam. Does this have merit ? He was sure wrung up.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 13, 2016 11:19:47 GMT
Crap day but I still expect nine points from the next four games. What you expect and what we'll get may be two different things.
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