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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 26, 2014 9:10:49 GMT
Hazard to score & a Chelsea Win 11/2!!! Get on it!
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 26, 2014 11:10:16 GMT
10-0 Chelsea at 500/1 with PaddyPower. I'm on that!
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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 26, 2014 12:45:11 GMT
10-0 Chelsea at 500/1 with PaddyPower. I'm on that! Worth 10p of anyone's money!
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Post by baldy on Oct 26, 2014 15:24:44 GMT
Rooney and Falcao out is a miss for anybody. Advantage Chelsea on the injury front.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 15:30:57 GMT
Rooney and Falcao out is a miss for anybody. Advantage Chelsea on the injury front. Rooney and falcao have 4 prem goals between them this year. Costa has 9 . Advantage Man Utd on the injury front. Don't go making excuses before it even starts
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Post by baldy on Oct 26, 2014 15:34:57 GMT
Rooney and Falcao out is a miss for anybody. Advantage Chelsea on the injury front. Rooney and falcao have 4 prem goals between them this year. Costa has 9 . Advantage Man Utd on the injury front. Don't go making excuses before it even starts That's just stupidity to analyse it like that. Welbeck has two league goals for Arsenal. A crap record but they'd still miss him.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 15:41:20 GMT
Rooney and falcao have 4 prem goals between them this year. Costa has 9 . Advantage Man Utd on the injury front. Don't go making excuses before it even starts That's just stupidity to analyse it like that. Welbeck has two league goals for Arsenal. A crap record but they'd still miss him. So u can analyse Rooney is as good as aguero based on goals scored. But not that Costa is a bigger loss to Chelsea based on his goals,Than Rooney and falcao? ? Do u not still have rvp Chelsea r playing drogba
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 26, 2014 17:13:20 GMT
van Persie doesn't miss from there!!!
And with a Drogba assist too!!
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 17:34:30 GMT
Drogba can jump f*cking high
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 26, 2014 17:55:08 GMT
Have Man Utd won the league?? Embarrassing celebrating a late draw at home like that!!!!
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Post by Junior on Oct 26, 2014 17:57:42 GMT
Should they have just all slowly strolled up to RVP, shook his hand and walked back to the centre circle?
Draw was a fair result..
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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 26, 2014 17:57:57 GMT
Have Man Utd won the league?? Embarrassing celebrating a late draw at home like that!!!! Not really?
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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 26, 2014 18:00:33 GMT
Poor ref today! It was not a dirty game and Chelsea got 7 yellows ffs? Never a booking at the and although a free kick and I also think a draw was a fair result.
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Post by Young Money on Oct 26, 2014 18:01:48 GMT
A draw a fair result? The play was fairly even, but Chelsea were denied a clear penalty when Ivanovic was strangled in the box.
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Post by Junior on Oct 26, 2014 18:02:21 GMT
Referee was, and is, awful! Not a bad tackle in that game. The way he reffed it the 2 yellows was always going to happen. Matic could have got two yellows as well. Ivanovic arguably could have been off before the way that gane was officiated.
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Post by Junior on Oct 26, 2014 18:04:42 GMT
A draw a fair result? The play was fairly even, but Chelsea were denied a clear penalty when Ivanovic was strangled in the box. Could argue looking at the stats Man Utd deserved at least a point. The penalty, yes there's a foul by Smalling but if you look in front of him, look at Cahill or Terry ( can't remember which ) they committing a similar foul..
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 18:07:57 GMT
Man United under David Moyes after 9 games: 14 points
Man United under Louis van Gaal after 9 games: 13 points
Shows no one is year running away with it though. City r prone to big slip ups still, and Chelsea r quite reliant on a injury prone striker
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Post by fistfullofdollars on Oct 26, 2014 18:31:01 GMT
Yeah I thought a draw was fair. Chelsea would/could have won comfortably if they had carried on playing after they scored, but they just seemed to want to shut up shop at 1-0 and that let Man U put on the pressure towards the end. some really disappointing performances from some of the big names though, neither fabregas or di Maria showed up and you could say the same for mata and Oscar. Matic and shaw were the standouts for me.
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Post by baldy on Oct 26, 2014 18:49:09 GMT
Man U 51% Chelsea 49% Mann U were, I think, a per cent more possession in the opposition box Man U 19 attempts on goal Chelsea 9 Man U 7 on target Chelsea 4 ........don't come on here saying anything other than Man U deserved at least a point. Oh and MOM ? Courtois.
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Post by baldy on Oct 26, 2014 18:53:48 GMT
That supposed fouling at a corner does my head in. You show me any clip you like from that match when it was a Man U corner and I will show you a Chelsea defender grabbing, pushing, pulling a red shirt.
It happens at every corner. 50/50. Man up and get on with it, it's well recognised within the game that penalties just are not given for these sort of penalty area incidents.
Like I say, someone put up a dead ball clip in the area at a Man U set piece and I will show you every single time a Man U penalty.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 19:20:10 GMT
I agree that u see pushing and pulling week in week out. But that in my opinion was a bit more than that, he basically wrestled him to the floor. Now this ain't a dig I just can't be bother to look it up. How many games did moyes stay in charge. And if lvg gets to the same number on the same or less points, would u change again?
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Post by baldy on Oct 26, 2014 19:54:41 GMT
I agree that u see pushing and pulling week in week out. But that in my opinion was a bit more than that, he basically wrestled him to the floor. Now this ain't a dig I just can't be bother to look it up. How many games did moyes stay in charge. And if lvg gets to the same number on the same or less points, would u change again? Be sensible. Moyes took over the champions of England. Van Gaal took over a mess. A dispirited, deflated team who finished 7th. Van Gaal is doing twice the job and more than Moyes did. Yes, he has been well backed but if a trophyless season is good enough for Mourinho last year then so it should be for Van Gaal.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 20:00:55 GMT
I agree that u see pushing and pulling week in week out. But that in my opinion was a bit more than that, he basically wrestled him to the floor. Now this ain't a dig I just can't be bother to look it up. How many games did moyes stay in charge. And if lvg gets to the same number on the same or less points, would u change again? Be sensible. Moyes took over the champions of England. Van Gaal took over a mess. A dispirited, deflated team who finished 7th. Van Gaal is doing twice the job and more than Moyes did. Yes, he has been well backed but if a trophyless season is good enough for Mourinho last year then so it should be for Van Gaal. Everyone knows that while they may have been champions the were well on the way to being a mess with an ageing squad. And lvg has added. Two world class players in ur opinion yet is still a point behind moyes. He also had harder fixtures in his run of games. I think Man Utd will make top 4. But that more to do with Liverpool and Spurs looking toothless. At what point does he turn from world class manger to reject though, he is only staying 2 years anyway ain't he that's a risk in my opinion to give him the budget again next year if they don't make progress this. Leaves the next manger starting all over again
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Post by baldy on Oct 26, 2014 20:07:42 GMT
Be sensible. Moyes took over the champions of England. Van Gaal took over a mess. A dispirited, deflated team who finished 7th. Van Gaal is doing twice the job and more than Moyes did. Yes, he has been well backed but if a trophyless season is good enough for Mourinho last year then so it should be for Van Gaal. Everyone knows that while they may have been champions the were well on the way to being a mess with an ageing squad. And lvg has added. Two world class players in ur opinion yet is still a point behind moyes. He also had harder fixtures in his run of games. I think Man Utd will make top 4. But that more to do with Liverpool and Spurs looking toothless. At what point does he turn from world class manger to reject though, he is only staying 2 years anyway ain't he that's a risk in my opinion to give him the budget again next year if they don't make progress this. Leaves the next manger starting all over again So if Chelsea win the league this season it will be devalued because teams like Liverpool and Tottenham are toothless ? Have I got that right ? You are saying two potential competitors aren't worthy, Arsenal we all know are always thereabouts but no threat to any champions elects. Man U you clearly don't rate and Man City have already blown up against Stoke and WHU as well as making heavy weather of beating CSK. A cheap title if Chelsea do win it ?
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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 26, 2014 20:14:14 GMT
Everyone knows that while they may have been champions the were well on the way to being a mess with an ageing squad. And lvg has added. Two world class players in ur opinion yet is still a point behind moyes. He also had harder fixtures in his run of games. I think Man Utd will make top 4. But that more to do with Liverpool and Spurs looking toothless. At what point does he turn from world class manger to reject though, he is only staying 2 years anyway ain't he that's a risk in my opinion to give him the budget again next year if they don't make progress this. Leaves the next manger starting all over again So if Chelsea win the league this season it will be devalued because teams like Liverpool and Tottenham are toothless ? Have I got that right ? You are saying two potential competitors aren't worthy, Arsenal we all know are always thereabouts but no threat to any champions elects. Man U you clearly don't rate and Man City have already blown up against Stoke and WHU as well as making heavy weather of beating CSK. A cheap title if Chelsea do win it ? Sounds like your arguing with yourself baldy? OUFCY has said he thinks Man U will get top four and he was asking your opinion on LVG as a manager! Calm down.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 26, 2014 20:16:54 GMT
Everyone knows that while they may have been champions the were well on the way to being a mess with an ageing squad. And lvg has added. Two world class players in ur opinion yet is still a point behind moyes. He also had harder fixtures in his run of games. I think Man Utd will make top 4. But that more to do with Liverpool and Spurs looking toothless. At what point does he turn from world class manger to reject though, he is only staying 2 years anyway ain't he that's a risk in my opinion to give him the budget again next year if they don't make progress this. Leaves the next manger starting all over again So if Chelsea win the league this season it will be devalued because teams like Liverpool and Tottenham are toothless ? Have I got that right ? You are saying two potential competitors aren't worthy, Arsenal we all know are always thereabouts but no threat to any champions elects. Man U you clearly don't rate and Man City have already blown up against Stoke and WHU as well as making heavy weather of beating CSK. A cheap title if Chelsea do win it ? Not at all what I said. Who ever wins it after 38 games deserves it. I think that will be Chelsea. City and arsenal will take 2 of the other spots imo, leaving 1 other. I think man Utd may take that due to Liverpool and Spurs looking no where near good enough. Although there may be a surprise like Southampton. Can u not ever answer a question about man Utd without out going into counter defensive mode and firing out a load of crap.
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 26, 2014 20:41:40 GMT
What Baldy could have said!
"It hasn't been the best start, and whilst the injury problem has not helped, I also think it's taken LvG longer than expected to find a system that works in the PL.
He has been well supported in the transfer market, and I think it will take a while before we really see what Falcao and others are capable off. di Maria has adapted really quickly and once we get the strikers playing in a regular system then goals will flow. Likewise, a settled back 4 will grow in confidence and de Gea will continue to prove himself as the best young keeper in Europe.
I can't see us catching Chelsea but the next 3 spaces are up for grabs, and we really need to get top 4 to justify the amount spent and to build for next season. However, if we do not make it I still wouldn't panic like many clubs have done in the past. We need to give LvG the time to build stability and get us back to a title challenging team."
However instead of taking a reasonable stance he comes out with his usual defensive crap that make debate almost impossible.
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Post by saddletramp on Oct 27, 2014 7:33:42 GMT
That supposed fouling at a corner does my head in. You show me any clip you like from that match when it was a Man U corner and I will show you a Chelsea defender grabbing, pushing, pulling a red shirt. It happens at every corner. 50/50. Man up and get on with it, it's well recognised within the game that penalties just are not given for these sort of penalty area incidents. Like I say, someone put up a dead ball clip in the area at a Man U set piece and I will show you every single time a Man U penalty. "its well recognised that penalties are just not given for these sort of penalty area incidents" Tell that to Shawcross,who conceded a penalty for just that sort of "incident"last week.
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Post by saddletramp on Oct 27, 2014 7:38:14 GMT
Man U 51% Chelsea 49% Mann U were, I think, a per cent more possession in the opposition box Man U 19 attempts on goal Chelsea 9 Man U 7 on target Chelsea 4 ........don't come on here saying anything other than Man U deserved at least a point. Oh and MOM ? Courtois. Yep stats tell the whole story, possession, West Ham 30% Man City 70% Shots West ham 12 City 21 on target West ham 4 City 5 Corners West ham 4 City 8 So as everyone can see Man City deserved to win. Doh,
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Post by Junior on Oct 27, 2014 7:49:30 GMT
That supposed fouling at a corner does my head in. You show me any clip you like from that match when it was a Man U corner and I will show you a Chelsea defender grabbing, pushing, pulling a red shirt. It happens at every corner. 50/50. Man up and get on with it, it's well recognised within the game that penalties just are not given for these sort of penalty area incidents. Like I say, someone put up a dead ball clip in the area at a Man U set piece and I will show you every single time a Man U penalty. "its well recognised that penalties are just not given for these sort of penalty area incidents" Tell that to Shawcross,who conceded a penalty for just that sort of "incident"last week. And he seems to be the only who's been unfortunate enough to be penalised. As for your Man City example at West Ham. They did deserve to win. West Ham were just more clinical.
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