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Post by shaunrice on Aug 10, 2013 19:35:59 GMT
Blackwell sounds a bit deluded with this comment: "We did more than enough to win the game. We thoroughly dominated in the second half, they had one shot on target in the first half, and unfortunately we've lost the game." Then he's deluded! How many times did they test Clark from open play? Not many, I remember one good save where he got down well at his near post. Their keeper made two brilliant saves, especially the one from Kitson. World Class! I thought Bury were an awful side. All they wanted to do most of the time was stop us playing by fouling time and time again, so frustrating to watch. Shame really because when they actually tried to play they moved the ball quite well and looked like they might open us up. The one thing they had in their game that caused us problems was their corner routines. Funny then that it would be one of ours that would beat them. One things for sure we would've lost this game last season so at the moment it looks like we've progressed. As Denis Smith once said "you can only really tell how good you are after 10 games" Or something like that and it's so true. On to the next game.
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Post by McVicar on Aug 10, 2013 19:43:21 GMT
Blackwell sounds a bit deluded with this comment: "We did more than enough to win the game. We thoroughly dominated in the second half, they had one shot on target in the first half, and unfortunately we've lost the game." Then he's deluded! How many times did they test Clark from open play? Not many, I remember one good save where he got down well at his near post. Their keeper made two brilliant saves, especially the one from Kitson. World Class! I thought Bury were an awful side. All they wanted to do most of the time was stop us playing by fouling time and time again, so frustrating to watch. Shame really because when they actually tried to play they moved the ball quite well and looked like they might open us up. The one thing they had in their game that caused us problems was their corner routines. Funny then that it would be one of ours that would beat them. One things for sure we would've lost this game last season so at the moment it looks like we've progressed. As Denis Smith once said "you can only really tell how good you are after 10 games" Or something like that and it's so true. On to the next game. Agree with all of this. Sent from my GT-N7100 using proboards
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Post by MJB on Aug 10, 2013 19:46:04 GMT
Then he's deluded! How many times did they test Clark from open play? Not many, I remember one good save where he got down well at his near post. Their keeper made two brilliant saves, especially the one from Kitson. World Class! I thought Bury were an awful side. All they wanted to do most of the time was stop us playing by fouling time and time again, so frustrating to watch. Shame really because when they actually tried to play they moved the ball quite well and looked like they might open us up. The one thing they had in their game that caused us problems was their corner routines. Funny then that it would be one of ours that would beat them. One things for sure we would've lost this game last season so at the moment it looks like we've progressed. As Denis Smith once said "you can only really tell how good you are after 10 games" Or something like that and it's so true. On to the next game. Agree with all of this. Sent from my GT-N7100 using proboards Yep. Except we didn't score from a corner.
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Post by dubaiyellow on Aug 10, 2013 19:46:37 GMT
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Post by longliveclarkey on Aug 10, 2013 20:05:45 GMT
Really positive first half, first 20 minutes of second half were shocking, rest we probably edged. We could quite easily have had 4 though, which was equally encouraging, Kitson will score a hatful of headers if he gets opportunities like that. Both Kitson and Rose looked really good, the rest were largely a mixed bag who went missing in the second half, not to say that anybody had a bad game. Kitson looked really good ? Were you at the game today ? I thought he was awful,not blaming him,but we know he's no youngster,so why drag him back for the corners? Of which Bury had about 20,so when we win the ball,break quick,Kitson is ambling over the halfway line. I thought Smalley was excellent today,but with 3 holding midfielders,he would win the ball,hold it up,then look for a non existent midfield. Pretty much everyone except you has the same idea as me when it comes to Kitson. He is the big target man we've been clamouring for this whole time, he's brilliant at winning balls in the air and would have been even better had it not been for persistent and largely unpunished fouling. That goal he almost scored, that's one he'll get 90% of the time when facing an ever so slightly less acrobatic keeper. The reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious - any time the ball went anywhere near him it would go flying out of the box. You'd have to have pretty absurdly high standards to say Kitson wasn't good today.
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Post by saddletramp on Aug 10, 2013 20:23:46 GMT
Kitson looked really good ? Were you at the game today ? I thought he was awful,not blaming him,but we know he's no youngster,so why drag him back for the corners? Of which Bury had about 20,so when we win the ball,break quick,Kitson is ambling over the halfway line. I thought Smalley was excellent today,but with 3 holding midfielders,he would win the ball,hold it up,then look for a non existent midfield. Pretty much everyone except you has the same idea as me when it comes to Kitson. He is the big target man we've been clamouring for this whole time, he's brilliant at winning balls in the air and would have been even better had it not been for persistent and largely unpunished fouling. That goal he almost scored, that's one he'll get 90% of the time when facing an ever so slightly less acrobatic keeper. The reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious - any time the ball went anywhere near him it would go flying out of the box. You'd have to have pretty absurdly high standards to say Kitson wasn't good today. So tell me what did Kitson do today? Every time he brought the ball down,he either passed the ball to a Bury defender,or took the defender on and lost the ball. "the reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious" yep its pretty obvious,Wilder doest trust his centre halfs with set pieces,so brings Kitson (and Smalley)back to help out. Well im sorry but IMO if you want Kitson to do what he does best,then you need to preserve his energy and not play him as an extra defender. P.S.if id have watched this game today,without prior knowledge of the players,and you had said "which of these players once went for 5 mill"? id have picked Smalley over Kitson no probs.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Aug 10, 2013 21:08:01 GMT
Pretty much everyone except you has the same idea as me when it comes to Kitson. He is the big target man we've been clamouring for this whole time, he's brilliant at winning balls in the air and would have been even better had it not been for persistent and largely unpunished fouling. That goal he almost scored, that's one he'll get 90% of the time when facing an ever so slightly less acrobatic keeper. The reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious - any time the ball went anywhere near him it would go flying out of the box. You'd have to have pretty absurdly high standards to say Kitson wasn't good today. So tell me what did Kitson do today? Every time he brought the ball down,he either passed the ball to a Bury defender,or took the defender on and lost the ball. "the reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious" yep its pretty obvious,Wilder doest trust his centre halfs with set pieces,so brings Kitson (and Smalley)back to help out. Well im sorry but IMO if you want Kitson to do what he does best,then you need to preserve his energy and not play him as an extra defender. P.S.if id have watched this game today,without prior knowledge of the players,and you had said "which of these players once went for 5 mill"? id have picked Smalley over Kitson no probs. I did tell you what he did, he was the big target man we've been clamouring for that enables us a plan B and to retain possession. I'm sorry but it's simply not true to say that he always passed to Bury defenders, he was dispossessed twice in the entire match. Of course, ultimately this is going to come back to your very specific view on what strikers need to do to be any good, and I would just urge you to look at the player ratings in response to what people think of that.
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Post by bigfella72 on Aug 10, 2013 21:08:03 GMT
Pretty much everyone except you has the same idea as me when it comes to Kitson. He is the big target man we've been clamouring for this whole time, he's brilliant at winning balls in the air and would have been even better had it not been for persistent and largely unpunished fouling. That goal he almost scored, that's one he'll get 90% of the time when facing an ever so slightly less acrobatic keeper. The reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious - any time the ball went anywhere near him it would go flying out of the box. You'd have to have pretty absurdly high standards to say Kitson wasn't good today. So tell me what did Kitson do today? Every time he brought the ball down,he either passed the ball to a Bury defender,or took the defender on and lost the ball. "the reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious" yep its pretty obvious,Wilder doest trust his centre halfs with set pieces,so brings Kitson (and Smalley)back to help out. Well im sorry but IMO if you want Kitson to do what he does best,then you need to preserve his energy and not play him as an extra defender. P.S.if id have watched this game today,without prior knowledge of the players,and you had said "which of these players once went for 5 mill"? id have picked Smalley over Kitson no probs. Most teams will bring their best header of the ball back for corners and leave quicker players up field (potter) for any sort of break away!! Remind me how many corners they had and scored from today? And last Saturday for that matter??
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Post by tatabanya on Aug 10, 2013 21:14:50 GMT
Pretty much everyone except you has the same idea as me when it comes to Kitson. He is the big target man we've been clamouring for this whole time, he's brilliant at winning balls in the air and would have been even better had it not been for persistent and largely unpunished fouling. That goal he almost scored, that's one he'll get 90% of the time when facing an ever so slightly less acrobatic keeper. The reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious - any time the ball went anywhere near him it would go flying out of the box. You'd have to have pretty absurdly high standards to say Kitson wasn't good today. So tell me what did Kitson do today? Every time he brought the ball down,he either passed the ball to a Bury defender,or took the defender on and lost the ball. "the reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious" yep its pretty obvious,Wilder doest trust his centre halfs with set pieces,so brings Kitson (and Smalley)back to help out. Well im sorry but IMO if you want Kitson to do what he does best,then you need to preserve his energy and not play him as an extra defender. P.S.if id have watched this game today,without prior knowledge of the players,and you had said "which of these players once went for 5 mill"? id have picked Smalley over Kitson no probs. So good to have Kitson back at corners, at Pompey he cleared every single one. Strikers can be effective set-piece defenders. Drogba comes to mind...
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Post by bicesterox on Aug 10, 2013 21:22:10 GMT
A view of the winner
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Post by MJB on Aug 10, 2013 21:43:58 GMT
So tell me what did Kitson do today? Every time he brought the ball down,he either passed the ball to a Bury defender,or took the defender on and lost the ball. "the reason we drag him back for corners is pretty obvious" yep its pretty obvious,Wilder doest trust his centre halfs with set pieces,so brings Kitson (and Smalley)back to help out. Well im sorry but IMO if you want Kitson to do what he does best,then you need to preserve his energy and not play him as an extra defender. P.S.if id have watched this game today,without prior knowledge of the players,and you had said "which of these players once went for 5 mill"? id have picked Smalley over Kitson no probs. So good to have Kitson back at corners, at Pompey he cleared every single one. Strikers can be effective set-piece defenders. Drogba comes to mind... Yep. So many corners against us today - and many were well-delivered - but we looked so much more assured.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 10, 2013 21:46:49 GMT
I thought Kitson did some really good stuff today. Bury were scared of him judging by the amount of attention he got. They worked hard on not giving him any space to play and kicking lumps out of him.
As for Blackwell. Cloud Cuckoo Land son. You had lots of crosses that Clarke caught, and apart from a few forays, you did nothing in the penalty area. It was almost like watching Steve Evans manage Boston. Long balls to the winger, etc etc. Bury worked hard, put pressure on but it was like watching us last year. Nothing much in front of goal.
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Post by kahunaburger on Aug 10, 2013 21:57:52 GMT
and how many fouls given for their fouling on their corners? and us? first corner, instant free kick.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 10, 2013 22:04:24 GMT
One or two, but every set piece was a tug and nudge fest that the Ref seemed scared of giving. Harrard seemed to want to get up close and personal with Clarke in the first half judging by how contact he had with him.
It made the sending off all the more ironic. The Ref let plenty go in the box, but gave it outside.
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Post by salaghaf on Aug 11, 2013 1:16:48 GMT
Firstly a wins a win and 2 wins out of 2 is a great start and you can't ask for more than that. But yet again I'm left questioning wilder. How many times have we seen this 1 nil at half time and we sit back and start defending the car park for the 2nd half it cost us so many points last season I had hoped wilder would of learnt his lesson from playing that way clearly not Sent from my HTC Desire S using proboards In fairness to Wilder, he was ranting and raving at the players - telling them to push up. Never seen him so agitated. Fair play to the man.
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Post by salaghaf on Aug 11, 2013 1:25:30 GMT
Oh, and Kitson was a man mountain today.
Showed real clas s attacking and defending today (and winning free kicks ),
Mainly sublime passing - for once we have someone who can play an accurate long balls up the wings.
Defending was spot on also, Questionably better than Dubes at defending balls in the box with his head.
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Post by shaunrice on Aug 11, 2013 6:49:31 GMT
Agree with all of this. Sent from my GT-N7100 using proboards Yep. Except we didn't score from a corner. Ha hah I said corner routine not corner? Sure it was from a free kick but it was still a corner routine.
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Post by dartfordox (RIP) on Aug 11, 2013 15:27:31 GMT
Why does Yellow Player video highlights of yesterdays match say 2-2.
Did I miss something?
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Post by behindthegoal on Aug 11, 2013 16:13:37 GMT
Why does Yellow Player video highlights of yesterdays match say 2-2. Did I miss something? Yes, we had an extra 10 mins.
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