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Post by voteno (banned) on Aug 7, 2013 19:03:01 GMT
… to answer can I ask any other members if they knew what was being done in our name - regarding the RTB?
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Post by Si Bradbury on Aug 7, 2013 21:29:54 GMT
Yes membership were asked via Surveys and at Pre-Match OxVox members meetings. It was also recorded at the AGM, perhaps you didn't make it? www.oxvox.org.uk/news.aspx?id=462The survey results clearly showed a huge majority of members wanting OxVox to safeguard/find ways of achieving stadium ownership.
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Post by Long John Silver on Aug 8, 2013 6:53:17 GMT
… to answer can I ask any other members if they knew what was being done in our name - regarding the RTB? Do you think the RTB is a bad thing?
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Post by finlandia on Aug 8, 2013 6:59:22 GMT
In principle yes, as long as the legal advice given is water tight. Remember who you are dealing with here
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Post by essexyellows on Aug 8, 2013 7:13:37 GMT
… to answer can I ask any other members if they knew what was being done in our name - regarding the RTB? Yes. Are you a member?
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Post by m on Aug 8, 2013 7:38:52 GMT
… to answer can I ask any other members if they knew what was being done in our name - regarding the RTB? Not specifically, no. But I was very pleased with the outcome as I was one of the polled members who brahmabull alludes to.
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Post by SteMerritt on Aug 8, 2013 7:43:39 GMT
Voteno, set out your manifesto here, now, and then stand for the committee at the next round of elections. If you are so against this move, lets hear your views and let the membership decide when you stand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 8:51:04 GMT
Voteno, set out your manifesto here, now, and then stand for the committee at the next round of elections. If you are so against this move, lets hear your views and let the membership decide when you stand. Awaiting votenos reply with interest!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 8:54:33 GMT
Voteno, set out your manifesto here, now, and then stand for the committee at the next round of elections. If you are so against this move, lets hear your views and let the membership decide when you stand. Won't happen. Voteno is a sniper, one of a group of snipers inhabiting the other forum. They are bitterly opposed to Mark Sennett and OxVox for petty personal reasons, but will never step up to the plate themselves. Just read the forum. More than half the topics so far are anti-OxVox. OUFC come a distant second in their consciousness. EDIT - By the way, I am totally happy with an elected OxVox committee making decisions on my behalf. They have our mandate, and if we're not happy with the decisions they make they can be removed democratically. The idea that the entire OxVox membership should vote on each individual issue is ridiculous and unworkable, if we actually want anything to happen.
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 8, 2013 9:47:02 GMT
Voteno, set out your manifesto here, now, and then stand for the committee at the next round of elections. If you are so against this move, lets hear your views and let the membership decide when you stand. Won't happen. Voteno is a sniper, one of a group of snipers inhabiting the other forum. They are bitterly opposed to Mark Sennett and OxVox for petty personal reasons, but will never step up to the plate themselves. Just read the forum. More than half the topics so far are anti-OxVox. OUFC come a distant second in their consciousness. Certainly comes across that way, the posts on the yellow voice forum do have an orchestrated feel about them. Why set up another forum when there's another good forum @ rageonline for banned/multi posters from these boards to go to.......? As I've said before In the interests of openness and transparency.. Who funded/owns the yellow voice forum? Who runs it? Who are the moderators?
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Post by Mark on Aug 8, 2013 9:52:26 GMT
Won't happen. Voteno is a sniper, one of a group of snipers inhabiting the other forum. They are bitterly opposed to Mark Sennett and OxVox for petty personal reasons, but will never step up to the plate themselves. Just read the forum. More than half the topics so far are anti-OxVox. OUFC come a distant second in their consciousness. Certainly comes across that way, the posts on the yellow voice forum do have an orchestrated feel about them. Why set up another forum when there's another good forum @ rageonline for banned/multi posters from these boards to go to.......? As I've said before In the interests of openness and transparency.. Who funded/owns the yellow voice forum? Who runs it? Who are the moderators? Don't encourage them onto Rageonline. I see EricPollard's twin has appeared on both YV and RO in recent days. We ignore the troll on RO.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Aug 8, 2013 10:16:18 GMT
What a pious forum Rage Online is. Needs a rocket up its backside.
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Post by essexyellows on Aug 8, 2013 10:51:10 GMT
Won't happen. Voteno is a sniper, one of a group of snipers inhabiting the other forum. They are bitterly opposed to Mark Sennett and OxVox for petty personal reasons, but will never step up to the plate themselves. Just read the forum. More than half the topics so far are anti-OxVox. OUFC come a distant second in their consciousness. Certainly comes across that way, the posts on the yellow voice forum do have an orchestrated feel about them. Why set up another forum when there's another good forum @ rageonline for banned/multi posters from these boards to go to.......? As I've said before In the interests of openness and transparency.. Who funded/owns the yellow voice forum? Who runs it? Who are the moderators? Domain name: yellowvoice.co.uk Registrant: Website Toolbox, Inc. Registrant type: Unknown Registrant's address: 237 Route 27 Iselin New Jersey 08830 United States Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLP. [Tag = GODADDY] URL: www.godaddy.com Relevant dates: Registered on: 29-Jul-2013 Expiry date: 29-Jul-2015 Last updated: 29-Jul-2013 Registration status: Registered until expiry date. Name servers: ns01.domaincontrol.com ns02.domaincontrol.com Set up via another webservice to avoid people knowing the answer I guess?
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Post by Eaststandboy on Aug 8, 2013 14:03:15 GMT
Going to YV and clicking chat may give away a name in the pop up box
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 8, 2013 14:24:09 GMT
Going to YV and clicking chat may give away a name in the pop up box I tried that and Stewart Donald's name came up, assume that this is Stuart Donald of Bridle and now Chief Executive at Eastleigh FC.
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Post by bridle on Aug 8, 2013 17:14:49 GMT
I have just been advised by a few Oxford United fans that I am being credited/accused of owning the new forum yellow voice. I have taken control of the bridle login from my colleague to inform people that I was asked to join and then subsequently sponsor the site. I joined to add numbers and I think have posted once.
I have joined under my real name which is Stewart. Yellow river, got it right. I have chosen not to sponsor the site as I felt that inappropriate in the same way I did not respond to the same request on this forum as I feel forums obviously are controversial things and you cant have one rule for one and one for another.
I am not involved in anyway other than as a logged on poster excluding my initial conversations about the above. I am approached regularly by a cross section of fans from sponsorship to donations and always help where possible. I am nowhere near technical enough to even comtemplate website develpoment or whatever is needed. I know what an IP address is and understand anyone can register a hotmail or gmail account and you dont know who it is but that is about the limit of my knowledge.
I will check the chat bar thing mentioned and query if needed for my own piece of mind but I do not post on yellows forum now as ther is no need for Bridle to get involved we enjoyed our time we all move on but I will always remain a fan and offer help as per my suggestion on the oxvox forum for Dave Langan before it closed etc(which thankfully is not required!.
I have discussed this website with Mark Sennett at Oxvox today and whilst he appeared to know little more than me he will be able to confirm I have discussed this with him as I am very keen to ensure our time as sponsors is remembered as positive,enjoyable and accurate.
Thank You
Final post on either forum!!
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Post by one trick Raponi on Aug 8, 2013 17:24:52 GMT
Thanks for the clarification. That would be a shame if that is your final post on here. Bridle did some amazing things for OUFC so thank you!
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Post by essexyellows on Aug 8, 2013 17:29:49 GMT
"forums obviously are controversial things and you cant have one rule for one and one for another."
Amen to that.
Although I can`t remember MS being appointed President?? I was also disappointed to see how far the Oxvox membership has regressed. Maybe the committee should focus on that rather than getting a tad above their station and focus on upping the membership rather than petty cross forum squabbles with various individuals their approach has rightly or wrongly p*ssed off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 17:41:40 GMT
I was also disappointed to see how far the Oxvox membership has regressed. Maybe the committee should focus on that rather than getting a tad above their station and focus on upping the membership rather than petty cross forum squabbles with various individuals their approach has rightly or wrongly p*ssed off. I don't think it has regressed, has it? Adult membership is 360 now and has been for a long time, give or take a small number, overall membership about 500. As for cross-forum squabbles, it is indeed getting very tedious. I don't think many of us know the full facts of why Yellow Voice organisers are pursuing their campaign against OxVox, but considering some of the hysterical and very personal stuff I've read on YV, I think OxVox committee members on here have been quite restrained in their replies, sticking to established facts and not resorting to abuse. (PS I don't know any of the committee apart from Mr Earp, so have no personal axe to grind).
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 8, 2013 17:48:19 GMT
I have just been advised by a few Oxford United fans that I am being credited/accused of owning the new forum yellow voice. I have taken control of the bridle login from my colleague to inform people that I was asked to join and then subsequently sponsor the site. I joined to add numbers and I think have posted once. I have joined under my real name which is Stewart. Yellow river, got it right. I have chosen not to sponsor the site as I felt that inappropriate in the same way I did not respond to the same request on this forum as I feel forums obviously are controversial things and you cant have one rule for one and one for another. I am not involved in anyway other than as a logged on poster excluding my initial conversations about the above. I am approached regularly by a cross section of fans from sponsorship to donations and always help where possible. I am nowhere near technical enough to even comtemplate website develpoment or whatever is needed. I know what an IP address is and understand anyone can register a hotmail or gmail account and you dont know who it is but that is about the limit of my knowledge. I will check the chat bar thing mentioned and query if needed for my own piece of mind but I do not post on yellows forum now as ther is no need for Bridle to get involved we enjoyed our time we all move on but I will always remain a fan and offer help as per my suggestion on the oxvox forum for Dave Langan before it closed etc(which thankfully is not required!. I have discussed this website with Mark Sennett at Oxvox today and whilst he appeared to know little more than me he will be able to confirm I have discussed this with him as I am very keen to ensure our time as sponsors is remembered as positive,enjoyable and accurate. Thank You Final post on either forum!! Thanks for clearing that up Stewart, Bridle were indeed great sponsors of OUFC, I wish you well at Eastleigh.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Aug 8, 2013 18:23:16 GMT
I was also disappointed to see how far the Oxvox membership has regressed. Maybe the committee should focus on that rather than getting a tad above their station and focus on upping the membership rather than petty cross forum squabbles with various individuals their approach has rightly or wrongly p*ssed off. I don't think it has regressed, has it? Adult membership is 360 now and has been for a long time, give or take a small number, overall membership about 500. As for cross-forum squabbles, it is indeed getting very tedious. I don't think many of us know the full facts of why Yellow Voice organisers are pursuing their campaign against OxVox, but considering some of the hysterical and very personal stuff I've read on YV, I think OxVox committee members on here have been quite restrained. Either that or they are bored to tears. Personal views here as I know some of the individuals involved. Without exception they are some of the biggest OUFC supporters you could ever meet so that's a good start Getting straight to the point Mark Sennett has done a lot for the trust as chairman. I admire his energy and his can-do attitude. Always have. He has his faults; wouldn't say he was the most popular person on the planet but you never get anywhere by being everyone's mate. Other weaknesses; he should listen more to the membership. The community asset thing was sprung on people; in my view Kassam doesn't forget things like this and he is NO FRIEND of OUFC or the supporters. Whatever he says in public. I bet he appeals. So Oxvox have to deal with the consequences of that. And I can see why some of the members are a little aggrieved about how the community asset project might pan out. Personal view again though; on balance the community asset application is a good thing; just don't agree wholly with the modus operandi of going about getting the status; a little too cloak and dagger for my taste. Also, others on the Oxvox oommittee should be more prominent. It always seems to be Mark, Simon and Matt who seem to put their heads on the block publically; would love to hear some more input from say Gavin Hill (Scoob); a nice guy who thinks things through well. Some of he other committee members seem to do little more than soak up the club gossip and then go home. Maybe I am being harsh but they appear to contribute little or nothing. As for the naysayers well they appear to be a combination of people who have fallen out with Mark on personal grounds, multi posters who have been booted off Yellows forum, er... then you have Ken.. I am constantly reminded of the Peoples Front of Judaea scene in Life of Brian when I read the various forums at the moment. Come on guys, we all love the club, (even if Eric Pollards' Twin seems to prefer the Warriors), lets end this tedious bickering and try and be a tad more constructive. Mark, Simon et al are doing their best. If you don't like it vote and boot them out, rather than dish out the vitriol from the comfort of an anonymous handle. Oh and I like the idea of the 12th Man Bar. Another good development; well done all concerned for getting this set up.
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Post by bridle on Aug 8, 2013 19:16:27 GMT
Just for you info i queried on yellowvoice the chat. My name came up because i was the only one who went through the site and registered for chat. Thorough as always!!! Not sure how I did it thou. For those of you who were curious.
As a fan i would just say for what it's worth I agree with potters boot. I had not read the thread till prompted but he is right We all love the club. Also Ian lenagan is doing his best and leading the way a divided club wins nothing. He is investing a lot of money all the time the least we can do is pull together and show him we deserve it.
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Post by londonroader on Aug 8, 2013 21:00:16 GMT
Just for you info i queried on yellowvoice the chat. My name came up because i was the only one who went through the site and registered for chat. Thorough as always!!! Not sure how I did it thou. For those of you who were curious. As a fan i would just say for what it's worth I agree with potters boot. I had not read the thread till prompted but he is right We all love the club. Also Ian lenagan is doing his best and leading the way a divided club wins nothing. He is investing a lot of money all the time the least we can do is pull together and show him we deserve it. Good sponsors you were, loyal supporters you might be, bitter things have not run your way maybe, I'm glad you are trying to distance yourself from this other forum because mud sticks. "IL doing his best" wow is that a vote of confidence or what..
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Post by Si Bradbury on Aug 8, 2013 22:23:48 GMT
We have over 500 members, 340 are voting adult members. That's pretty much as high as it has been, I can't remember the highest total. 340 people can vote in the upcoming vote on rule changes. As I mentioned back five years ago, the Trust struggled to get more than 224 members despite Mr Merry doing a pretty decent job of sending our football club down the river.
Most supporters trust report similar membership figures and ratio's to that of their average home attendance. Some unique exceptions include Exeter City and Portsmouth. OxVox numbers will swell when we have a crisis or an issue like LW trying to purchase the Kassam Stadium.
Again to confirm OxVox have a 'Right to Bid' on the Kassam Stadium, we do not have any 'Right to Buy'.
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Post by bakeydanner on Aug 16, 2013 22:29:04 GMT
I have just been advised by a few Oxford United fans that I am being credited/accused of owning the new forum yellow voice. I have taken control of the bridle login from my colleague to inform people that I was asked to join and then subsequently sponsor the site. I joined to add numbers and I think have posted once. I have joined under my real name which is Stewart. Yellow river, got it right. I have chosen not to sponsor the site as I felt that inappropriate in the same way I did not respond to the same request on this forum as I feel forums obviously are controversial things and you cant have one rule for one and one for another. I am not involved in anyway other than as a logged on poster excluding my initial conversations about the above. I am approached regularly by a cross section of fans from sponsorship to donations and always help where possible. I am nowhere near technical enough to even comtemplate website develpoment or whatever is needed. I know what an IP address is and understand anyone can register a hotmail or gmail account and you dont know who it is but that is about the limit of my knowledge. Stewart. You are saying that you didn't start that forum. It would appear then your name had been used to create it. Please click on this link and see where it re-directs too www.stewartdonald.forumchitchat.comAre you able to explain this please?
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Post by godalmingyellow on Aug 17, 2013 9:35:08 GMT
Yes membership were asked via Surveys and at Pre-Match OxVox members meetings. It was also recorded at the AGM, perhaps you didn't make it? www.oxvox.org.uk/news.aspx?id=462The survey results clearly showed a huge majority of members wanting OxVox to safeguard/find ways of achieving stadium ownership. I think that is a little disingenuous BB. Suggesting it was referred to at the AGM is hardly telling the membership is it? How many were at the AGM? Considerably less than 10% of the membership. The survey doesn't ask for opinions about the RTB either and it is highly debatable that the RTB provides any benefits at all, let alone safeguarding or buying the stadium. For such a major event, which OxVox committee sought to gain credit on a huge scale, the membership should have been asked specifically about the RTB. I'm not saying the result would have been any different, but was not handled well. Never forget that the OxVox is a democratic organisation and the committee exists to represent members, and the wider supporter base where such views are known or credible, and not to represent the views of the committee members alone.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Aug 17, 2013 10:35:26 GMT
I agree with GY. There should have been more private soundings of the membership before the RTB campaign was launched. Mr Sennett is normally not slow to canvass opinion of various members over the phone; why did he/his committee members not do so this time?
Am generally in favour of RTB by the way.
I still await Kassam's appeal. I bet he does.
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 17, 2013 11:37:05 GMT
Stewart. You are saying that you didn't start that forum. It would appear then your name had been used to create it. Please click on this link and see where it re-directs too www.stewartdonald.forumchitchat.comAre you able to explain this please? Message just posted on YV by one of that forum's moderators; I have today received a PM from a member of this forum. As a result of what he has told me, please be aware that ANY posts copied from Yellows Forum on to this forum will be deleted.
I am not in a position to explain the reasons why, but I can tell you that it would not be in your interest to ignore this request.
Do they mean this post by "bakeydanner" in particular? Surely not trying to protect the identity of the creator of YV? What would be the point when anyone could read it on Yellows forum? Like the last bit - presumably more bannings if anyone disobeys. This is a very strange request from the moderator of YV, I wonder if any of the members on YV will question this decision or will they meekly go along with it, so much for openness, transparency and freedom of speech. Why all the secrecy over who funded/owns/runs YV? For what it's worth I'm sure Stewart Donald has nothing to do with YV, he has said so above and I believe him.
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Post by malcolmnl on Aug 17, 2013 12:05:07 GMT
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 17, 2013 14:38:27 GMT
There is something a little strange about YV. It could all be an innocent mistake, but it is the only forum where no one knows who owns it and whoever does own it, is keeping things very quiet.
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