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Post by ox4eva on Dec 12, 2017 2:42:13 GMT
I notice lots of organizations/clubs now have their own weekly lotto and I was thinking would this not be a good idea for the club to look at ?
I know there is the lucky numbers draw but that is only available to those who are at the game but a proper lotto that people can subscribe to means the wider fan base can take part and those who cannot attend are still doing there bit to help the club.
Just a thought..
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Post by oldham on Dec 12, 2017 11:58:18 GMT
I notice lots of organizations/clubs now have their own weekly lotto and I was thinking would this not be a good idea for the club to look at ? I know there is the lucky numbers draw but that is only available to those who are at the game but a proper lotto that people can subscribe to means the wider fan base can take part and those who cannot attend are still doing there bit to help the club. Just a thought.. 👍
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Post by ox4eva on Dec 12, 2017 15:52:47 GMT
I notice lots of organizations/clubs now have their own weekly lotto and I was thinking would this not be a good idea for the club to look at ? I know there is the lucky numbers draw but that is only available to those who are at the game but a proper lotto that people can subscribe to means the wider fan base can take part and those who cannot attend are still doing there bit to help the club. Just a thought.. 👍 Obviously not popular..
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Post by thebeechroad on Dec 12, 2017 15:55:16 GMT
We used to have in the 80's.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 12, 2017 17:11:14 GMT
Used to have scratch cards at the club shop as well
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Post by Mark on Dec 12, 2017 17:19:44 GMT
Several years back there was a United Lottery with prizes like signed matchballs, curry at Asiz, team photos. I think it was £1 a week, but eventually the draws stopped happening or they'd suddenly announce about five draw results, and then they closed it.
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Post by ox4eva on Dec 12, 2017 17:42:07 GMT
I was talking about a proper lotto, lots of organisations use this.
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Post by mooro on Dec 12, 2017 18:24:36 GMT
We used to do one for the U's yOUth fund, but then the club took a bigger interest the whole youth aspect of the club, so our draw ceased to avoid clashing with their efforts (50/50 etc). I do think it is a good idea, but would like to see the money ring-fenced (ie for the youth team), rather than just going into the big pot....
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Post by ox4eva on Dec 12, 2017 19:13:45 GMT
We used to do one for the U's yOUth fund, but then the club took a bigger interest the whole youth aspect of the club, so our draw ceased to avoid clashing with their efforts (50/50 etc). I do think it is a good idea, but would like to see the money ring-fenced (ie for the youth team), rather than just going into the big pot.... My thought was the same either towards youth development or community activities. Surely we could get 2 or 3 thousand subscribing to something like this. I doubt the 50/50 draw gets more that 3 or 4 hundred supporting it!
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Post by Colin B on Dec 12, 2017 19:59:34 GMT
The 50/50 was getting about 2,000 tickets sold for some games, but then the club changed the rules and it appears to have withered away this season.
Back in its heyday we had two lotteries, selling 80,000 tickets a week! The rules permitted a maximum of 40,000 tickets, and we were so successful that we had to start a second lottery and this also sold out. It was a huge money spinner for the club and we were one of the top lottery sellers in the whole country.
Funny thing is, that when the government relaxed the gambling rules and allowed sporting bodies to run lotteries you just KNEW that ours would be successful, we were that sort of club, with that sort of fan base, and that sort of sense of belonging. They were different days though, and gambling was much more tightly regulated then. This was, from memory, late seventies or early eighties.
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Post by harrycarry on Dec 12, 2017 20:12:03 GMT
They even had door to door sales volunteers, even covered all the houses in a Bucks village where I lived which was about 14 miles from Oxford. With the right promotion I wonder how many thousands would sign up for it. Perhaps half the the annual Wembley fans would too! At a pound a week we might even cover the stadium rent?
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 12, 2017 20:13:28 GMT
They even had door to door sales volunteers, even covered all the houses in a Bucks village where I lived which was about 14 miles from Oxford. With the right promotion I wonder how many thousands would sign up for it. Perhaps half the the annual Wembley fans would too! At a pound a week we might even cover the stadium rent? What were the prizes / odds ?
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Post by harrycarry on Dec 12, 2017 20:20:58 GMT
Can't remember what the prizes were. Think the tickets were either 25p or 50p each, my old man used to buy 4 a week so that we had one each.
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Post by Mark on Dec 12, 2017 20:21:48 GMT
The 50/50 was getting about 2,000 tickets sold for some games, but then the club changed the rules and it appears to have withered away this season. Back in its heyday we had two lotteries, selling 80,000 tickets a week! The rules permitted a maximum of 40,000 tickets, and we were so successful that we had to start a second lottery and this also sold out. It was a huge money spinner for the club and we were one of the top lottery sellers in the whole country. Funny thing is, that when the government relaxed the gambling rules and allowed sporting bodies to run lotteries you just KNEW that ours would be successful, we were that sort of club, with that sort of fan base, and that sort of sense of belonging. They were different days though, and gambling was much more tightly regulated then. This was, from memory, late seventies or early eighties. Was this one of the few legal ‘lotteries’ back in the day? So apart from bookmakers and the pools and spot the ball? Which were games of skill?
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Post by Colin B on Dec 12, 2017 20:46:35 GMT
Doing this totally from memory, but the prize money was strictly regulated as a percentage of the total take and the top prize was also regulated. I think it was 50p a ticket and a prize fund of 60%, meaning the club made £8,000 per week from each lottery, big money in those days! I'm happy to be corrected if anybody else has a better memory.
I also seem to recall that only Man Utd and Rangers sold more tickets that us. In reply to Mark, yes it was one of the few legal lotteries available at the time to the masses. It was a big deal when the government allowed it. Volunteer ticket sellers sold them all over Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Buckinghamshire. Not sure about Wiltshire!?!?!?
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Post by holdsteady on Dec 12, 2017 21:15:29 GMT
With the national lottery, scratch cards, internet gambling, more casinos and even more betting shops with fixed odds machines, plus a load of other ways to gamble, I think if you want to have a flutter this country has it covered.
Instead of trying to continually milk more money from the fans we already have it would be a good idea to try and increase the number of fans and get some more money in that way. Filling those empty blue seats is the best way to raise funds.
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Post by Colin B on Dec 12, 2017 21:28:59 GMT
With the national lottery, scratch cards, internet gambling, more casinos and even more betting shops with fixed odds machines, plus a load of other ways to gamble, I think if you want to have a flutter this country has it covered. Instead of trying to continually milk more money from the fans we already have it would be a good idea to try and increase the number of fans and get some more money in that way. Filling those empty blue seats is the best way to raise funds. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not advocating the return of such a lottery, as you rightly say, that horse bolted several years ago. I'm merely pointing out the latent support we have/had (even if that doesn't necessarily involve attending games every week) and the togetherness that the club possessed at that time. I wholeheartedly agree with your point regarding enlarging the active fanbase as being the way forward.
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Post by essexyellows on Dec 12, 2017 21:38:02 GMT
Gambling Act 2005... unless your raffle/lottery is purely raising money for charity it needs to be licenced. So any aspect of "profit" is a no no.
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Post by bicesterox on Dec 13, 2017 22:14:57 GMT
We used to do one for the U's yOUth fund, but then the club took a bigger interest the whole youth aspect of the club, so our draw ceased to avoid clashing with their efforts (50/50 etc). I do think it is a good idea, but would like to see the money ring-fenced (ie for the youth team), rather than just going into the big pot.... My thought was the same either towards youth development or community activities. Surely we could get 2 or 3 thousand subscribing to something like this. I doubt the 50/50 draw gets more that 3 or 4 hundred supporting it! The 50 / 50 prior to this season was good in that you knew that at least 50% of the money went to the club, I say at least because the prize was a maximum of £2000 So if over 4000 tickets were sold , Swansea, Swindon, Newcastle etc the club made more which is ok by me. This season with a max £750 prize I think a lot of people don't bother anymore meaning the club share is less...and I'm not interested in winning a cocktail 😀 The trouble is there are too many types of lottery available and it would take something unique to get enough people buying regularly to make it worth while.
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