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Post by newtonyellow on Nov 11, 2017 17:27:21 GMT
If a deal happens, sack Pep.
Sick of the rubbish he comes out with during post match interviews.
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Post by foweyox on Nov 11, 2017 17:47:33 GMT
its the people he has brought in who are unfit and a drain on the wages. How may goals have we conceded in games where Tiendali has played?
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Post by headingtonoldboy on Nov 11, 2017 18:15:00 GMT
I have always given Pep a chance to get things right at the club and the consensus of opinion was that we should see where we are after 12 -15 games. I think we have played about 20 in all competitions and in all honesty I can see no progress at all and in fact that we are going backwards. I think that unless there is a major turn around in fortunesome over the next 4 games then a change should be seriously considered.
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Post by ascotyellow on Nov 11, 2017 19:22:08 GMT
Hes not helped with the lack of balance in our squad. Cheap, foreign injured players and our best players sold. We have not replace Lunny and Johnson with anyone remotely approaching their ability
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 19:23:19 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him.
He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews.
I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January.
Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after.
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Post by 1OUFC on Nov 11, 2017 19:31:00 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. Oh come on, he has had the last few games to learn from and nothing has changed. The same system, same excuses, no plan B. We must be one of the only teams coaches don't need to scout prior to playing them. Everyone knows exactly what we will do.
There has been room for improvement over the last 7 games, and nothing. Clotet is an eternal failure as manager, and we will be another of his scalps if we allow him to continue any longer.
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 19:34:04 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. Oh come on, he has had the last few games to learn from and nothing has changed. The same system, same excuses, no plan B. We must be one of the only teams coaches don't need to scout prior to playing them. Everyone knows exactly what we will do.
There has been room for improvement over the last 7 games, and nothing. Clotet is an eternal failure as manager, and we will be another of his scalps if we allow him to continue any longer.
He played two up top for the last twenty minutes, is that not a plan B?
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Post by 1OUFC on Nov 11, 2017 19:38:54 GMT
Oh come on, he has had the last few games to learn from and nothing has changed. The same system, same excuses, no plan B. We must be one of the only teams coaches don't need to scout prior to playing them. Everyone knows exactly what we will do.
There has been room for improvement over the last 7 games, and nothing. Clotet is an eternal failure as manager, and we will be another of his scalps if we allow him to continue any longer.
He played two up top for the last twenty minutes, is that not a plan B? Did he realise that he played two up top for 15 mins or so. Did you hear his interview, he seemed to watch a different game to us. The man is deluded. It's Patterson all over again. All we need in his next interview is a mention of them being an honest bunch of lads.
It was more of a desperate call. If he had meant it to be a plan B then Payne would have stayed on and Ledson taken off. It wasn't two up top, he simply seemed to switch Obika into Paynes position as part of the one system he knows, 4 4 1 1.
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Post by eraser on Nov 11, 2017 19:59:05 GMT
Pep is floundering. Hall is back - where shall I put him? Right wing. Now what do I do with Henry who was good at right wing? - move him to left wing where he was crap at start of season. Now where shall I put Rothwell? - centre midfield... Oh and I might as well drop Ruffels now as that was a crap idea previously and we can get back to losing ways... Complete clueless clown.
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Post by blox21 on Nov 11, 2017 20:03:07 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. If and it's a big if would you trust him in the unlikely event that mr Eales gave him an unlimited war chest come January?
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Post by eraser on Nov 11, 2017 20:16:39 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. We've been floating or drifting for a while now but the teams below are closing the gap. We will sink quickly soon if he doesn't get a grip! I hope I'm wrong but I don't think he knows how to sail this ship...
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Post by gofish2 on Nov 11, 2017 20:24:53 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. ...blind allegiance rooted in a sense of futility?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Nov 11, 2017 20:31:44 GMT
Instill a smidgeon of purpose into our floundering vessel.
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 21:25:30 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. If and it's a big if would you trust him in the unlikely event that mr Eales gave him an unlimited war chest come January? Yes i would trust him. I think he would bring in players we need in certain positions and i reckon he would make more signings from the football league.
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 21:26:50 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. We've been floating or drifting for a while now but the teams below are closing the gap. We will sink quickly soon if he doesn't get a grip! I hope I'm wrong but I don't think he knows how to sail this ship... We are on a bad run of form, no question about it. He needs to turn it around and quickly.
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 21:32:06 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. ...blind allegiance rooted in a sense of futility? Think that's a bit harsh. I have been impressed with him and want to back him. I don't like calling for managers heads at the first opportunity. People have mocked him tonight for saying that we are in a better position then when we were last season. That might change in the next few games either way. He needs to turn around the bad run of form quickly and I think he can do it.
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Post by blox21 on Nov 11, 2017 21:36:21 GMT
If and it's a big if would you trust him in the unlikely event that mr Eales gave him an unlimited war chest come January? Yes i would trust him. I think he would bring in players we need in certain positions and i reckon he would make more signings from the football league. Bollox
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Post by gofish2 on Nov 11, 2017 21:38:26 GMT
Try not to take my comment personally. I would like to agree with you but the form speaks volumes when you consider it against the background problems
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 21:38:40 GMT
Yes i would trust him. I think he would bring in players we need in certain positions and i reckon he would make more signings from the football league. Bollox Why ask then?
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Post by blox21 on Nov 11, 2017 21:41:34 GMT
That's what I thought of your answer.
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 21:42:15 GMT
Try not to take my comment personally. I would like to agree with you but the form speaks volumes when you consider it against the background problems No problem. The form for the last few games is crap, no disputing it and unless we pick up two or three wins in the next five the pressure will rise significantly. As for the background issues I.e ownership, personally I wouldn't accept that as an excuse from the team.
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 21:43:10 GMT
That's what I thought of your answer. But if you have no interest in an answer why bother asking me?
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Post by 1OUFC on Nov 11, 2017 21:46:07 GMT
Without wishing to sound rude, you do sound a little like how Brownlie used to go on supporting Patterson.
Each game that goes by, we are falling further. This isn't a case of lets see where we are in a few weeks time, by then we will be down amongst the dead men. Does he show any signs of turning things around and learning from his mistakes? Clearly not.
Its one thing giving someone time, but all too often Oxford give their managers too long to fail, when other clubs act more efficiently, when a situation clearly isn't going to improve, and that's where we are currently are at.
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Post by eraser on Nov 11, 2017 21:52:24 GMT
Not for me, I believe in him. He's not a moron and knows we should be doing better and is not going to come out and dig his own grave in media interviews. I believe he will of learnt from his signings and now he is managing in league one will have a better idea of what he needs in January. Im not happy that we have lost today and there is a lot of room for improvement but as long as he can keep us floating around this position to the new year then we will have a platform to push on after. If and it's a big if would you trust him in the unlikely event that mr Eales gave him an unlimited war chest come January? In some ways I feel sorry for Pep - he came to Oxford trying to fill big boots and instead of a war chest he got a carrier bag! Bit like MApp found himself at at Pompey, Blackburn and Blackpool. He's on a hiding to nothing at the moment.
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Post by blox21 on Nov 11, 2017 22:00:36 GMT
Don't get me wrong Pep comes across as one of the good guys but I'd rather an horrible c*nt who got results .
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Post by grenobleroad on Nov 11, 2017 22:08:13 GMT
Without wishing to sound rude, you do sound a little like how Brownlie used to go on supporting Patterson.
Each game that goes by, we are falling further. This isn't a case of lets see where we are in a few weeks time, by then we will be down amongst the dead men. Does he show any signs of turning things around and learning from his mistakes? Clearly not.
Its one thing giving someone time, but all too often Oxford give their managers too long to fail, when other clubs act more efficiently, when a situation clearly isn't going to improve, and that's where we are currently are at.
That's because I am James Brownlie.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Nov 11, 2017 22:16:45 GMT
Hall is, to put it politely, a defensive liability and with a small left back, playing him there is an invitation to the opposition.
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Post by robie on Nov 11, 2017 22:19:27 GMT
Pep has got us playing some fantastic football and also some bizarre football. He was on the back foot in the summer with how late Appleton finally went. I hope we stick with him and back him fully in the summer.
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Post by blox21 on Nov 11, 2017 22:25:15 GMT
Pep has got us playing some fantastic football and also some bizarre football. He was on the back foot in the summer with how late Appleton finally went. I hope we stick with him and back him fully in the summer. What about this winter ?
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Nov 11, 2017 22:46:39 GMT
My concern, as I voiced recently, is that we had a good enough start that we're yet to end up at the wrong end of the table through these awful patches. We are now getting to that point, however. We're bobbing about for two or three games and then over the next three or four starting to sink. We've gone from top, to playoffs, to top ten, to top half... we aren't even halfway through November and we've dropped halfway down the league from where we started off. We are actively going backwards and if that form continues we will be relegated. That's not even an opinion - our league position and the rate at which it is dropping would result in us finishing in the bottom four come May.
That run of three league wins in a row (which ended about six or seven games ago, by the way) are our only three wins in all competitions in over a dozen games. We have conceded two or more goals in every single one of the last five matches - thirteen goals in total by my count - and we are not only starting to ship a tonne of goals but we have conceded three goals in the last four days within 90 seconds of scoring ourselves. That is an absolutely catastrophic, mental failure. I haven't seen anything like it for a long, long time and it's gettin worse. Where are the signs it's going to get better? Nelson is possibly out for the season, Williamson is old and injured, Raglan is injured, Sam Long is out for six months every time he bends over, Ribeiro can't stay fit for more than two games on the spin, Tiendalli can't run, Ricardinho is our only left back, is ageing and has shown signs of niggles recently, and the first f*cking thing Aaron Martin did today was fall over to allow them to score, LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES.
And on top of that we still have seven weeks until the transfer window opens, and even then we don't know what the hell is going on as it looks like Eales is in a race to get the hell out before then, which presumably has been his plan for some time and therefore is taking the summer's transfer fees with him, leaving the club with a bunch of crocks and high paid freebies that he will now never have to worry about paying out of his own pocket. Oh, and we also don't seem to have a fully staffed recruitment team anymore, hence 80% of our entire business since July revolving around players Pep knows from past clubs. Pep, by the way, has only ever failed as a manager and has either been relegated or left before relegation was confirmed just about every time he's had a manager job.
I won't call for change, because it isn't coming until any potential takeover is sorted at the earliest. Eales won't be bothered and won't want to spend money that is still his problem when he's working towards a way out, so any feelings of 'Pep out' whether they come from me or anybody else are pointless - it ain't happening until there's movement on the ownership front even if we lose 5-0 every single week until that happens. Pep has the safest job in football while negotiations are going on as he literally has no boss, but I don't think many people believe he's going to turn this around. The feeling at games has become one of acceptance with each passing week, and the players don't seem to be much different. Everyone just sort of shrugs and goes "oh well, maybe next season". But that is the mentality that will mean next season happens back in L2.
Think we're safe / too good to go down? I wouldn't be so sure about that, because we are currently sleepwalking right over a cliff. I'm not saying we WILL, but I think we MIGHT, and we absolutely 100% definitely COULD.
Plymouth is massive.
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