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Post by diagocostapacket on Nov 7, 2017 17:22:26 GMT
We get supporters home and away who just want to watch Oxford play football they couldn't give a shit about Eales or anything else about the clubs admin.
You're probably right about that. I'm sure many fans are not interested in anything happening off the pitch. Question is - should they give a shit? I reckon they should. Fair enough Each to his own..
I suppose if your directly involved with the club you might have cause to.. but I would wager more that 80% of supporters just want to turn up see a game of footy, (hopefully a win) and go home..
The staunch supporters wont desert the club just because the Chairman might be a Del Boy, no more than dyed in the wool Labour voters would the labour party should Corbin be a Perv. ( Not that he is of course. )
I think some people think too much, ( me included ) instead of just appreciating the joys of following their local football club, through thick or thin...
Don't get me started on those that think the players don't put in a shift or full commitment when we lose ...I spoke to a couple after Fridays game and they were absolutely spent.
I went to the dentist a few of weeks back and was moaning to him about the recent poor results..I asked if the tooth filling was going to be painful...pain he said pain.? you don't know what pain is until you've supported Swindon for 45 years.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 7, 2017 17:27:42 GMT
• Acquiring the stadium has stalled (arguably down to OxVox rather than the club) I thought your post was quite reasonable until the stupid comment above. Go one then, explain away, please inform the forum how the stadium stalled because of OxVox....... FWIW, the stadium deal stalled for a number of reasons including the football club being 'FOR SALE' and as a result the landlord didn't want to commit to a deal whilst the ownership situation was in the 'air' and has EVER since. God forbid, should the ownership situation be resolved, OXVOX and FK might be able to continue the productive work we got to during the early stages of 2017. But t to be fair it has gone quiet it was announced mid 2016 that Oxford x were in talks about the terms that would be required for for a sale/buy, that was announced along with for the past 9months then it was announced that Stewart Donald had joined Oxvox to lend his business acumen then it was announced to try and have the business sorted by the end of the season which was longer than originally announced. Then it was postponed until the Sartori situation was resolved but also that Oxvox may try and negotiate a different contract. Why should Kassam not want to commit when his business is the stadium and not the club, Are you saying DE sells to someone that FK doesn’t like I’m which case he would throw his toys out of the Oran.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Nov 7, 2017 17:55:04 GMT
I thought your post was quite reasonable until the stupid comment above. Go one then, explain away, please inform the forum how the stadium stalled because of OxVox....... FWIW, the stadium deal stalled for a number of reasons including the football club being 'FOR SALE' and as a result the landlord didn't want to commit to a deal whilst the ownership situation was in the 'air' and has EVER since. God forbid, should the ownership situation be resolved, OXVOX and FK might be able to continue the productive work we got to during the early stages of 2017. But t to be fair it has gone quiet it was announced mid 2016 that Oxford x were in talks about the terms that would be required for for a sale/buy, that was announced along with for the past 9months then it was announced that Stewart Donald had joined Oxvox to lend his business acumen then it was announced to try and have the business sorted by the end of the season which was longer than originally announced. Then it was postponed until the Sartori situation was resolved but also that Oxvox may try and negotiate a different contract. Why should Kassam not want to commit when his business is the stadium and not the club, Are you saying DE sells to someone that FK doesn’t like I’m which case he would throw his toys out of the Oran. No my friend. OXVOX during early 2017 were having hugely productive talks with Firoz. Jem and I met him regularly, along with other parties. The situation stalled because of 'ownership talks', at the time that was Juan Sartori. We did help slightly with potentially finding a different contract/financial solution and Mr Sartori took that one step further and virtually agreed in principle to a new deal - not a contract, not a verbal commitment but middle ground that probably would have resulted in a deal. Not bad from Mr Sartori for a few weeks hard work on his part. That deal then didn't happen. That was all played out in the media, with DE and JS amicably drawing a line at the time to it. However, during the Summer, it became apparent once more, that the club may still remain 'available' or 'for sale'. Low and behold, talks began or were rumoured between the club and a Thai group. So from April 2017 to November 2017, the club has continued to be in a position where the 'ownership' is unclear. That's not our conclusion but from plenty of the major stakeholders.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Nov 7, 2017 17:55:07 GMT
Come on Baz. You know that Oxvox are/were trying to act as a bridge between DE and Kassam (while also representing the interests of the supporters of course), not trying to buy the stadium themselves!
Why would Kassam waste his time negotiating with an owner who might very well not be the owner in the near future? Any new owner might be quite happy to just keep paying the rent, or might not want to get involved in borrowing money to buy the stadium, might want a new ground or might have enough money to just pay what Kassam is asking.
The Sartori situation might have gone away, but the club is still for sale.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Nov 7, 2017 17:57:15 GMT
Oh.......and for the record Baz, the 'Arbitration' has still not been resolved and one shouldn't ignore that little fly in the ointment.
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Post by thesecretposter on Nov 7, 2017 18:05:32 GMT
• Acquiring the stadium has stalled (arguably down to OxVox rather than the club) I thought your post was quite reasonable until the stupid comment above. Go one then, explain away, please inform the forum how the stadium stalled because of OxVox....... FWIW, the stadium deal stalled for a number of reasons including the football club being 'FOR SALE' and as a result the landlord didn't want to commit to a deal whilst the ownership situation was in the 'air' and has EVER since. God forbid, should the ownership situation be resolved, OXVOX and FK might be able to continue the productive work we got to during the early stages of 2017. Admittedly my point wasn’t communicated very well. The point I was trying to make before you went on the ultra offensive was that OxVox had told members and the wider fanbase that talks were in place to acquire the stadium in partnership with the council. We were given timeframes for this which I would say was a mistake. As with the Sartori bid and in business in general things shouldn’t be announced until things are agreed which is sometimes difficult. It just stinks of Ox Bible. You could say that the failure to acquire the ground was down to other factors and deals not happening, but it is just one of many reasons that has soured an otherwise great few seasons. It’s not a bashing of OxVox just an observation.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 7, 2017 18:09:27 GMT
But t to be fair it has gone quiet it was announced mid 2016 that Oxford x were in talks about the terms that would be required for for a sale/buy, that was announced along with for the past 9months then it was announced that Stewart Donald had joined Oxvox to lend his business acumen then it was announced to try and have the business sorted by the end of the season which was longer than originally announced. Then it was postponed until the Sartori situation was resolved but also that Oxvox may try and negotiate a different contract. Why should Kassam not want to commit when his business is the stadium and not the club, Are you saying DE sells to someone that FK doesn’t like I’m which case he would throw his toys out of the Oran. No my friend. OXVOX during early 2017 were having hugely productive talks with Firoz. Jem and I met him regularly, along with other parties. The situation stalled because of 'ownership talks', at the time that was Juan Sartori. We did help slightly with potentially finding a different contract/financial solution and Mr Sartori took that one step further and virtually agreed in principle to a new deal - not a contract, not a verbal commitment but middle ground that probably would have resulted in a deal. Not bad from Mr Sartori for a few weeks hard work on his part. That deal then didn't happen. That was all played out in the media, with DE and JS amicably drawing a line at the time to it. However, during the Summer, it became apparent once more, that the club may still remain 'available' or 'for sale'. Low and behold, talks began or were rumoured between the club and a Thai group. So from April 2017 to November 2017, the club has continued to be in a position where the 'ownership' is unclear. That's not our conclusion but from plenty of the major stakeholders. Not disputing you ur comments si but I think it was Jem who put o n here that Oxvox we’re taking a back seat whil potential takeover talks were going on. Personally if the Thai’s are thinking of a takeover of the club I would hope as much information about there intentions if they are successful, and I hope that Oxvox either have or will be introduced to the potential Thai owners sooner rather than later.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 7, 2017 18:10:53 GMT
However, during the Summer, it became apparent once more, that the club may still remain 'available' or 'for sale'. Low and behold, talks began or were rumoured between the club and a Thai group. So from April 2017 to November 2017, the club has continued to be in a position where the 'ownership' is unclear. That's not our conclusion but from plenty of the major stakeholders. .... and it's right that OxVox are not commenting until detail about any bid from the Thais is known. Myles has correctly (and interestingly) detailed Tiger's dealings at Reading. What isn't known - although I stand to be corrected on this - is the nuts and bolts of any potential interest Tiger may have in OUFC. There are possible moral issues here and caution is required, but let's not be too hasty to scupper any possible deal.
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Post by oufcyellows on Nov 7, 2017 18:11:43 GMT
I thought your post was quite reasonable until the stupid comment above. Go one then, explain away, please inform the forum how the stadium stalled because of OxVox....... FWIW, the stadium deal stalled for a number of reasons including the football club being 'FOR SALE' and as a result the landlord didn't want to commit to a deal whilst the ownership situation was in the 'air' and has EVER since. God forbid, should the ownership situation be resolved, OXVOX and FK might be able to continue the productive work we got to during the early stages of 2017. Admittedly my point wasn’t communicated very well. The point I was trying to make before you went on the ultra offensive was that OxVox had told members and the wider fanbase that talks were in place to acquire the stadium in partnership with the council. We were given timeframes for this which I would say was a mistake. As with the Sartori bid and in business in general things shouldn’t be announced until things are agreed which is sometimes difficult. It just stinks of Ox Bible. You could say that the failure to acquire the ground was down to other factors and deals not happening, but it is just one of many reasons that has soured an otherwise great few seasons. It’s not a bashing of OxVox just an observation. Pretty sure the failure to get the stadium in the last few years is down to de, and not Oxvox. In fact Oxvox seemingly have come closer than any owner/chairman since we lost it in the first place. People were moaning very heavily about not having timescales, Particularly de in the media. So giving out a timeframe which until external events took over was largely on target isn’t an issue is it ? What ever happens with new ownership, it’s got to be no1 on the to do list. Followed by no 2 being a decent striker
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 7, 2017 18:23:11 GMT
Come on Baz. You know that Oxvox are/were trying to act as a bridge between DE and Kassam (while also representing the interests of the supporters of course), not trying to buy the stadium themselves! Why would Kassam waste his time negotiating with an owner who might very well not be the owner in the near future? Any new owner might be quite happy to just keep paying the rent, or might not want to get involved in borrowing money to buy the stadium, might want a new ground or might have enough money to just pay what Kassam is asking. The Sartori situation might have gone away, but the club is still for sale. Sorry I thought Kassam had said no to DE and would only sell to a community group, I don’t think if the Thai takeover is successful the could be classed as community. Unless FK has had a change of heart I can’t see the club owner whoever that Maybe owning the stadium.
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Post by oufcyellows on Nov 7, 2017 18:24:20 GMT
Come on Baz. You know that Oxvox are/were trying to act as a bridge between DE and Kassam (while also representing the interests of the supporters of course), not trying to buy the stadium themselves! Why would Kassam waste his time negotiating with an owner who might very well not be the owner in the near future? Any new owner might be quite happy to just keep paying the rent, or might not want to get involved in borrowing money to buy the stadium, might want a new ground or might have enough money to just pay what Kassam is asking. The Sartori situation might have gone away, but the club is still for sale. Sorry I thought Kassam had said no to DE and would only sell to a community group, I don’t think if the Thai takeover is successful the could be classed as community. Unless FK has had a change of heart I can’t see the club owner whoever that Maybe owning the stadium. I bet they could if they whacked £15m on the table.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Nov 7, 2017 18:26:39 GMT
Sorry I thought Kassam had said no to DE and would only sell to a community group, I don’t think if the Thai takeover is successful the could be classed as community. Unless FK has had a change of heart I can’t see the club owner whoever that Maybe owning the stadium. I bet they could if they whacked £15m on the table. And the rest but would Kassam be prepared to look stupid if he sold to an individual? Personally the quicker he’s gone the better but the owners have to be committed to OUFC
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Post by 1OUFC on Nov 7, 2017 19:52:28 GMT
Next time I t shall be written in the style of a Shakespearean sober hither to....👍 It would be appreciated. We do support a club in Oxfordshire after all what what. Sorry, Sober should read Sonnet!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Nov 7, 2017 20:18:31 GMT
God forbid, should the ownership situation be resolved, OXVOX and FK might be able to continue the productive work we got to during the early stages of 2017. Are you saying DE sells to someone that FK doesn’t like I’m which case he would throw his toys out of the Oran. Why has Kassam got toys in Algeria, please? Don't tell me he's joined the Foreign Legion. Anything to get away from Eales I spose.
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